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New Linkin Park disc - A Thousand Suns
#1
Posted 18 September 2010 - 03:46 PM
whatchoo think?
Me likey.
I like that Linkin Park has, over the last few albums, tried to move on from their nu-metal/rap beginnings, and mutate into something else. Something entirely their own and at the same time something very interesting.
This new disc has a definitely more electronic flavour to it, and even a more worldly influence with beats, vocals and harmonies from world musics, all of which add up to awesome for me. I am really digging it actually. Alot.
Me likey.
I like that Linkin Park has, over the last few albums, tried to move on from their nu-metal/rap beginnings, and mutate into something else. Something entirely their own and at the same time something very interesting.
This new disc has a definitely more electronic flavour to it, and even a more worldly influence with beats, vocals and harmonies from world musics, all of which add up to awesome for me. I am really digging it actually. Alot.
"When the last tree has fallen, and the rivers are poisoned, you cannot eat money, oh no." ~Aurora
"Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone." ~Ursula Vernon
"Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone." ~Ursula Vernon
#2
Posted 18 September 2010 - 03:54 PM
Not so much. Im not into the techno/electronca type music, Im more into the harded rock, alternative types, and they are moving out of that (Hybrid Theory being their best IMO) and into this project crap, that really makes no sense. I think it will hurt them in the sales dept, probably not in the concert area, as they put on a hell of a show, but most "main stream" music listeners, will probably agree with me.
I like Wretches and Kings pretty well. and The Catalyst sounds like a gospel rock/worship song. So thats cool. But the rest is kinda blah. Thats my opinion, feel free to make it yours.
I like Wretches and Kings pretty well. and The Catalyst sounds like a gospel rock/worship song. So thats cool. But the rest is kinda blah. Thats my opinion, feel free to make it yours.
THIS IS HOW I ROLL BITCHES!!!
#3
Posted 18 September 2010 - 07:04 PM
Bent, on 18 September 2010 - 03:54 PM, said:
Not so much. Im not into the techno/electronca type music, Im more into the harded rock, alternative types, and they are moving out of that (Hybrid Theory being their best IMO) and into this project crap, that really makes no sense. I think it will hurt them in the sales dept, probably not in the concert area, as they put on a hell of a show, but most "main stream" music listeners, will probably agree with me.
I like Wretches and Kings pretty well. and The Catalyst sounds like a gospel rock/worship song. So thats cool. But the rest is kinda blah. Thats my opinion, feel free to make it yours.
I like Wretches and Kings pretty well. and The Catalyst sounds like a gospel rock/worship song. So thats cool. But the rest is kinda blah. Thats my opinion, feel free to make it yours.
*shudder*....I wouldn't want them to make another album for "mainstream audiences". I mean Hybrid Theory was good, Meteora better...but both those CD's become dated as music moved away from that type of late 90's nu-metal and into the new millennium, and they show their age even now. To a certain extent you can even say alot of the early music sounded all the same...to a certain extent... I'm not saying they aren't good, they are, but with a need for re-invention, I think that LP (VIA great masterminding of Chester and Mike Shinoda) is perhaps more inventive than a lot of bands out there. Just put on your radio these days and what will you hear? You will either hear Indie rock outfit's putting out new music masquerading as 80's music and calling it "electronic"...which bores me and has been done before....or those same Indie acts are putting out sad bastard music (whoa is me, life sucks), or even laconic "a day in the life of a weird city dweller" shit....or you have a monstrously out of control glut of pop trash. That's it. Basically you CAN tune into your local rock station, but you will most likely get a mix of old 90's and early 2000's music....that while good...is nothing new...and they mix that with a few new songs (some of which are the dime-a-dozen Indie acts mentioned above)....but all in all they aren't reinventing anything these days on radio. There are a few of these Indie acts that are pushing into interesting territory (The Stars, and Metric come to mind) and being inventive. But mostly, everyone is re-hashing old styles and genre's and it pisses me off.
That said, the new LP disc is assembled really well. There are nice interludes and lead-in's to songs (The track "The Radiance" comes to mind with it's use of a speech about the men around Robert Oppenheimer as they detonated Trinity, the first atom bomb "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried. Most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita; Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty, and to impress him, takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another.") Gives me shivers actually.
There is really only ONE kind of old school, screamy Chester vocals, song and that's a good thing. everything else on here is widely varied in its execution and that makes the disc decidedly eclectic and a pleasure to listen to as nothing sounds the same as what came before it. ending with single The Catalyst and then the slower, but no less powerful The Messenger. A great listen, a new style for LP, and a welcome change from the everyday. I hope they never make another mainstream disc again, as this stuff is FAR more interesting.
"When the last tree has fallen, and the rivers are poisoned, you cannot eat money, oh no." ~Aurora
"Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone." ~Ursula Vernon
"Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone." ~Ursula Vernon
#4
Posted 18 September 2010 - 08:30 PM
Not where I live - here our rock station plays bands like (my personal favotite)Avenged Sevenfold, Maylene and the sons of disaster(kind of an eclectic bluegrass meets metal sound) 10 years (a local band that made it pretty big) etc.
Back to your original point, of the band, I get what you are saying, I just dont think it will appeal to most of the regular audience that followed the band. This is based onj the fact that the place that I pirated the cd off of, 477 downloads so far and 300 comments on how it wasnt the usual, and how they missed the old stuff, and how blah blah blah. Several admitted that it was growing on them, but theres no denying that they went out on a limb, trying to change things up, and I respect that, but I dont think it will pay off.
Back to your original point, of the band, I get what you are saying, I just dont think it will appeal to most of the regular audience that followed the band. This is based onj the fact that the place that I pirated the cd off of, 477 downloads so far and 300 comments on how it wasnt the usual, and how they missed the old stuff, and how blah blah blah. Several admitted that it was growing on them, but theres no denying that they went out on a limb, trying to change things up, and I respect that, but I dont think it will pay off.
THIS IS HOW I ROLL BITCHES!!!
#5
Posted 18 September 2010 - 08:37 PM
The love I bear thee can afford no better term than this: thou art a villain.
"Perhaps we think up our own destinies and so, in a sense, deserve whatever happens to us, for not having had the wit to imagine something better." ― Iain Banks
"Perhaps we think up our own destinies and so, in a sense, deserve whatever happens to us, for not having had the wit to imagine something better." ― Iain Banks
#6
Posted 18 September 2010 - 09:22 PM
These guys care a lot
This post has been edited by Beezulbubba: 18 September 2010 - 09:22 PM
#7
Posted 18 September 2010 - 11:18 PM
Bent, on 18 September 2010 - 08:30 PM, said:
Not where I live - here our rock station plays bands like (my personal favotite)Avenged Sevenfold, Maylene and the sons of disaster(kind of an eclectic bluegrass meets metal sound) 10 years (a local band that made it pretty big) etc.
Back to your original point, of the band, I get what you are saying, I just dont think it will appeal to most of the regular audience that followed the band. This is based onj the fact that the place that I pirated the cd off of, 477 downloads so far and 300 comments on how it wasnt the usual, and how they missed the old stuff, and how blah blah blah. Several admitted that it was growing on them, but theres no denying that they went out on a limb, trying to change things up, and I respect that, but I dont think it will pay off.
Back to your original point, of the band, I get what you are saying, I just dont think it will appeal to most of the regular audience that followed the band. This is based onj the fact that the place that I pirated the cd off of, 477 downloads so far and 300 comments on how it wasnt the usual, and how they missed the old stuff, and how blah blah blah. Several admitted that it was growing on them, but theres no denying that they went out on a limb, trying to change things up, and I respect that, but I dont think it will pay off.
Ah, indeed, I can see that point too. I guess they might lose a few fans of the previous albums, but maybe for the best. Dunno. To each their own.
"When the last tree has fallen, and the rivers are poisoned, you cannot eat money, oh no." ~Aurora
"Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone." ~Ursula Vernon
"Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone." ~Ursula Vernon
#8
Posted 13 October 2010 - 02:32 PM
Well I'll just echo what most fans would say.
The CD was not ALL that great but I think It showed tons of exploration
which I tend to respect in the group as I don't adhere to stereotypes
or "genres" and have always felt at home listening to anything linkin
park produced.
That said I really do hope they complete the cycle and after exploring
all the odd combinations they risked going into end up returning to the
original yet popular music they used to make. Its weird because the
very thing that made linkin park so good before seems to make things
worse for them now...
Not sure whether I'd prefer they keep up their innovative ways
or give up on that approach and start working towards what their
fans are longing to hear...a hybrid theory part 2 if you will.
The CD was not ALL that great but I think It showed tons of exploration
which I tend to respect in the group as I don't adhere to stereotypes
or "genres" and have always felt at home listening to anything linkin
park produced.
That said I really do hope they complete the cycle and after exploring
all the odd combinations they risked going into end up returning to the
original yet popular music they used to make. Its weird because the
very thing that made linkin park so good before seems to make things
worse for them now...
Not sure whether I'd prefer they keep up their innovative ways
or give up on that approach and start working towards what their
fans are longing to hear...a hybrid theory part 2 if you will.
“Behind this mask there is more than just flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea... and ideas are bulletproof Gas-Fireproof.”
#9
Posted 14 October 2010 - 07:46 AM
A couple of good tracks, but overall far too sombre. I'm not saying Chester has to yell his lungs out and the tempo has to be way up every single track, but I've heard livelier stuff from Enya.
4 mildly disappointed fans out of 10.
4 mildly disappointed fans out of 10.
"Fortune favors the bold, though statistics favor the cautious." - Indomitable Courteous (Icy) Fist, The Palace Job - Patrick Weekes
"Well well well ... if it ain't The Invisible C**t." - Billy Butcher, The Boys
"I have strong views about not tempting providence and, as a wise man once said, the difference between luck and a wheelbarrow is, luck doesn’t work if you push it." - Colonel Orhan, Sixteen Ways to Defend a Walled City - KJ Parker
"Well well well ... if it ain't The Invisible C**t." - Billy Butcher, The Boys
"I have strong views about not tempting providence and, as a wise man once said, the difference between luck and a wheelbarrow is, luck doesn’t work if you push it." - Colonel Orhan, Sixteen Ways to Defend a Walled City - KJ Parker
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