The New Battlestar Galactica
#241
Posted 27 December 2008 - 03:45 PM
Webisode 5
This official website is counting down to the first episode and the revelation of who the Final Cylon is (although it's not 100% this will be in the first episode back), and they are putting up new clues every few days. Some of them are video clips from the new season and are well worth checking out.
Some new trailers:
Where do they go from here?
What about the prophecy?
As for the Final Cylon:
The producers have definitively ruled out the following characters:
Bill Adama, Lee Adama, Laura Roslin, Gaius Baltar, Helo, Starbuck, Athena, Natalie and Head-Six*
* These last three may sound obvious, but it has been theorised that the Last Cylon, as a member of the Final Five whose origins are differen to the Significant Seven, could have posed as a specific member of the S7. That seems counter-intuitive (and would mean there was only 11 models, not 12), but it's been a surprisingly popular idea.
The producers have also said the Final Cylon will "Not be some day player from Season 1," but have also confirmed they decided who it would be at the end of Season 1. Unlike the Penultimate Four, the Final Cylon was chosen way back then and the producers and writers have known it would be that person since then. For that reason, it cannot be new characters introduced from the start of Season 2 onward (so it's not Narcho, Hoshi, Showboat or any of the other Pegasus characters).
This frankly doesn't leave many candidates: Gaeta, Dualla, Zarek, Hot Dog, Racetrack and Doc Cottle would seem to be the only viable candidates as Season 1 characters who are still around. However, it is also possible that the Final Cylon can resurrect, in which case it could be a Season 1 character who has died: Kat, Ellen Tigh or Cally could be a possibility in that case. Cain is not impossible: whilst she was introduced in Season 2, the producers had planned that storyline before the end of Season 1.
Some have suggested Zak Adama, but he literally was 'some day player from Season 1'. Apparently lots of people want it to be him because of Leoben's long-ago claim that "Adama is a Cylon," even though this was later dismissed as a lie and Leoben had no idea who any of the Final Five were. This theory gained some fuel when it was revealed that the actor who played him in the Season 1 flashbacks was coming back, but apparently this is for more flashbacks in the final three or so episodes.
This official website is counting down to the first episode and the revelation of who the Final Cylon is (although it's not 100% this will be in the first episode back), and they are putting up new clues every few days. Some of them are video clips from the new season and are well worth checking out.
Some new trailers:
Where do they go from here?
What about the prophecy?
As for the Final Cylon:
The producers have definitively ruled out the following characters:
Bill Adama, Lee Adama, Laura Roslin, Gaius Baltar, Helo, Starbuck, Athena, Natalie and Head-Six*
* These last three may sound obvious, but it has been theorised that the Last Cylon, as a member of the Final Five whose origins are differen to the Significant Seven, could have posed as a specific member of the S7. That seems counter-intuitive (and would mean there was only 11 models, not 12), but it's been a surprisingly popular idea.
The producers have also said the Final Cylon will "Not be some day player from Season 1," but have also confirmed they decided who it would be at the end of Season 1. Unlike the Penultimate Four, the Final Cylon was chosen way back then and the producers and writers have known it would be that person since then. For that reason, it cannot be new characters introduced from the start of Season 2 onward (so it's not Narcho, Hoshi, Showboat or any of the other Pegasus characters).
This frankly doesn't leave many candidates: Gaeta, Dualla, Zarek, Hot Dog, Racetrack and Doc Cottle would seem to be the only viable candidates as Season 1 characters who are still around. However, it is also possible that the Final Cylon can resurrect, in which case it could be a Season 1 character who has died: Kat, Ellen Tigh or Cally could be a possibility in that case. Cain is not impossible: whilst she was introduced in Season 2, the producers had planned that storyline before the end of Season 1.
Some have suggested Zak Adama, but he literally was 'some day player from Season 1'. Apparently lots of people want it to be him because of Leoben's long-ago claim that "Adama is a Cylon," even though this was later dismissed as a lie and Leoben had no idea who any of the Final Five were. This theory gained some fuel when it was revealed that the actor who played him in the Season 1 flashbacks was coming back, but apparently this is for more flashbacks in the final three or so episodes.
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#242
Posted 28 December 2008 - 07:32 PM
The last few webisodes have been leaked by Amazon. Grab 'em before they get pulled!
Webisode 6
Webisode 7
Webisode 8
Webisode 10
Webisode 6
Webisode 7
Webisode 8
Webisode 10
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"Try standing out in a winter storm all night and see how tough you are. Start with that. Then go into a bar and pick a fight and see how tough you are. And then go home and break crockery over your head. Start with those three and you'll be good to go."
- Bruce Campbell on how to be as cool as he is
- Bruce Campbell on how to be as cool as he is
#243
Posted 28 December 2008 - 09:24 PM
cheers wert!
9 musta had something important in it, that last scene didnt make much sense.
9 musta had something important in it, that last scene didnt make much sense.
2012
"Imperial Gothos, Imperial"
"Imperial Gothos, Imperial"
#244
Posted 28 December 2008 - 10:20 PM
Thanks for the links Wert.
Was number 9 also leaked? I have watched up to 8, but I'd rather not miss 9 and go straight to 10.
Was number 9 also leaked? I have watched up to 8, but I'd rather not miss 9 and go straight to 10.
#245
Posted 29 December 2008 - 01:46 PM
from the comments on the tube, I dont think 9 was leaked
2012
"Imperial Gothos, Imperial"
"Imperial Gothos, Imperial"
#246
Posted 14 January 2009 - 02:21 AM
It's almost here.
And the Internet is awash with spoilers. The production team have done an excellent job of keeping spoilers from leaking out compared to last year, when Earth's fate got leaked months early, or the year before when the Final Five's revelation leaked weeks ahead of time. However, with a few days to go and with screeners going out to magazines all over the place, leaks have happened. Remarkably, they still managed to hold a few things back but most of at least the first episode's major events have leaked.
And the Internet is awash with spoilers. The production team have done an excellent job of keeping spoilers from leaking out compared to last year, when Earth's fate got leaked months early, or the year before when the Final Five's revelation leaked weeks ahead of time. However, with a few days to go and with screeners going out to magazines all over the place, leaks have happened. Remarkably, they still managed to hold a few things back but most of at least the first episode's major events have leaked.
Spoiler
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"Try standing out in a winter storm all night and see how tough you are. Start with that. Then go into a bar and pick a fight and see how tough you are. And then go home and break crockery over your head. Start with those three and you'll be good to go."
- Bruce Campbell on how to be as cool as he is
- Bruce Campbell on how to be as cool as he is
#247
Posted 14 January 2009 - 02:25 AM
So very pumped.

Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#248
Posted 14 January 2009 - 02:27 AM
Oh yeah. It will be great.
I really liked the 10th webisode, now that I have finally finished them.
I have some ideas about who the final cylon is, will just have to wait to see though.
I really liked the 10th webisode, now that I have finally finished them.
I have some ideas about who the final cylon is, will just have to wait to see though.
#249
Posted 14 January 2009 - 02:29 AM
You joined the forum on my b-day. Happy un-birthday to you! I'm only through 4 of them, need to finish before the 16th.
Anyone know where I can get a copy of Raptor? Havne't seen them at the video stores 'round here.
Anyone know where I can get a copy of Raptor? Havne't seen them at the video stores 'round here.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#250
Posted 14 January 2009 - 02:31 AM
By Raptor, do you mean Razor?
If so, I've seen it at Best Buy and on the internet (Amazon, iTunes to Rent, Xbox Live Marketplace)
EDIT: And yes, apparently I did join on your birthday! What fun.
If so, I've seen it at Best Buy and on the internet (Amazon, iTunes to Rent, Xbox Live Marketplace)
EDIT: And yes, apparently I did join on your birthday! What fun.

This post has been edited by Stalker: 14 January 2009 - 02:32 AM
#251
Posted 14 January 2009 - 02:32 AM
Stalker, on Jan 13 2009, 09:31 PM, said:
By Raptor, do you mean Razor?
If so, I've seen it at Best Buy and on the internet (Amazon, iTunes to Rent, Xbox Live Marketplace)
If so, I've seen it at Best Buy and on the internet (Amazon, iTunes to Rent, Xbox Live Marketplace)
Yes, but that I meant that. Hmmm, wasn't at the BB here. Might have to try again.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#252
Posted 14 January 2009 - 03:23 AM
Stalker, on Jan 14 2009, 02:27 AM, said:
Oh yeah. It will be great.
I really liked the 10th webisode, now that I have finally finished them.
I have some ideas about who the final cylon is, will just have to wait to see though.
I really liked the 10th webisode, now that I have finally finished them.
I have some ideas about who the final cylon is, will just have to wait to see though.
Avoid any spoiler websites out there. For the sake of 3 days, it's probably not worth having the surprise spoiled

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"Try standing out in a winter storm all night and see how tough you are. Start with that. Then go into a bar and pick a fight and see how tough you are. And then go home and break crockery over your head. Start with those three and you'll be good to go."
- Bruce Campbell on how to be as cool as he is
- Bruce Campbell on how to be as cool as he is
#253
Posted 14 January 2009 - 03:27 AM
Yeah, I'd hate to have it spoiled.
You seem to think it will be revealed in the first new episode, is that based off something you've seen elsewhere or a guess? It would be really cool to find it out on Friday, but that seems too fast for them maybe.
You seem to think it will be revealed in the first new episode, is that based off something you've seen elsewhere or a guess? It would be really cool to find it out on Friday, but that seems too fast for them maybe.
#254
Posted 14 January 2009 - 03:40 AM
The original plan was for Season 4.0 to end with this week's episode as the cliffhanger ending (it was the last one shot before the writer's strike), and in that context having the reveal then makes sense. However, the Sci Fi Channel decided they really liked the cliffhanger shot being that of Earth instead, so they pulled back one episode. The producers were annoyed about that because they knew that people would fixate on the Final Cylon question and blow it out of all proportion, as has happened.
During the strike the writers started talking about their choice of the Final Cylon and if it was logical and if the audience was going to buy it. They ultimately chose to stick to their original choice, but apparently developed the option to cut the revelation from the next episode and drop it back a week or two. This is where the confusion has come from: it hasn't been revealed if they've decided to reinsert the revelation to this week's episode or not.
However, the Sci-Fi Channel did reveal today that this week's episode will run 4 minutes longer than normal, which to me suggests they did decide to put the last scene (the one that coincidentally is missing from the review copies they sent out to the press) back in at the last minute, and thus I believe we will find out who the Last Cylon is this week.
And to be honest I'm not that bothered. Compared to the much more fundamental questions about the head-characters, the Final Five's origins and relationships, the cycle of time, that bloody opera house and so on, the identity of the Final Cylon is reasonably small-fry. And whoever it is, you know they're going to get moaned about
During the strike the writers started talking about their choice of the Final Cylon and if it was logical and if the audience was going to buy it. They ultimately chose to stick to their original choice, but apparently developed the option to cut the revelation from the next episode and drop it back a week or two. This is where the confusion has come from: it hasn't been revealed if they've decided to reinsert the revelation to this week's episode or not.
However, the Sci-Fi Channel did reveal today that this week's episode will run 4 minutes longer than normal, which to me suggests they did decide to put the last scene (the one that coincidentally is missing from the review copies they sent out to the press) back in at the last minute, and thus I believe we will find out who the Last Cylon is this week.
And to be honest I'm not that bothered. Compared to the much more fundamental questions about the head-characters, the Final Five's origins and relationships, the cycle of time, that bloody opera house and so on, the identity of the Final Cylon is reasonably small-fry. And whoever it is, you know they're going to get moaned about

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"Try standing out in a winter storm all night and see how tough you are. Start with that. Then go into a bar and pick a fight and see how tough you are. And then go home and break crockery over your head. Start with those three and you'll be good to go."
- Bruce Campbell on how to be as cool as he is
- Bruce Campbell on how to be as cool as he is
#255
Posted 14 January 2009 - 04:05 AM
That makes sense, but yea I agree that the identity of the Final Cylon isn't that important. Just something people wanted cleared up I suppose.
I was talking to someone recently about the Earth cliffhanger, and he told me that he didn't think that they had really found Earth. I told him that he was crazy, but I have been thinking about that and I suppose that I could be possible. It just doesn't seem likely. Like the Battlestar 1980, had an actual surviving Earth, so maybe he is onto something?
I was talking to someone recently about the Earth cliffhanger, and he told me that he didn't think that they had really found Earth. I told him that he was crazy, but I have been thinking about that and I suppose that I could be possible. It just doesn't seem likely. Like the Battlestar 1980, had an actual surviving Earth, so maybe he is onto something?
This post has been edited by Stalker: 14 January 2009 - 04:11 AM
#256
Posted 14 January 2009 - 04:17 AM
Stalker, on Jan 14 2009, 04:05 AM, said:
That makes sense, but yea I agree that the identity of the Final Cylon isn't that important. Just something people wanted cleared up I suppose.
I was talking to someone recently about the Earth cliffhanger, and he told me that he didn't think that they had really found Earth. I told him that he was crazy, but I have been thinking about that and I suppose that I could be possible. It just doesn't seem likely. Like the Battlestar 1980, had an actual surviving Earth, so maybe he is onto something?
I was talking to someone recently about the Earth cliffhanger, and he told me that he didn't think that they had really found Earth. I told him that he was crazy, but I have been thinking about that and I suppose that I could be possible. It just doesn't seem likely. Like the Battlestar 1980, had an actual surviving Earth, so maybe he is onto something?
I suspect that question is going to come up in the show. Is this really Earth? The star patterns matching what they saw in the Tomb of Athena on Kobol would seem to clinch it, but maybe not. Personally I think it would suck if it wasn't Earth and they went for a bluff.
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"Try standing out in a winter storm all night and see how tough you are. Start with that. Then go into a bar and pick a fight and see how tough you are. And then go home and break crockery over your head. Start with those three and you'll be good to go."
- Bruce Campbell on how to be as cool as he is
- Bruce Campbell on how to be as cool as he is
#257
Posted 14 January 2009 - 04:26 AM
Yea, I think it would suck too, as I was under the impression that this would conclusively end the series. I just thought it was worth noting.
By the way, I liked the reveal on your website about the Final Cylon
By the way, I liked the reveal on your website about the Final Cylon

#258
Posted 14 January 2009 - 03:35 PM
eagerly anticpating, avoiding all spoilers.
that is all
that is all

2012
"Imperial Gothos, Imperial"
"Imperial Gothos, Imperial"
#260
Posted 15 January 2009 - 05:19 PM
Werthead, on Jan 14 2009, 04:17 AM, said:
Stalker, on Jan 14 2009, 04:05 AM, said:
That makes sense, but yea I agree that the identity of the Final Cylon isn't that important. Just something people wanted cleared up I suppose.
I was talking to someone recently about the Earth cliffhanger, and he told me that he didn't think that they had really found Earth. I told him that he was crazy, but I have been thinking about that and I suppose that I could be possible. It just doesn't seem likely. Like the Battlestar 1980, had an actual surviving Earth, so maybe he is onto something?
I was talking to someone recently about the Earth cliffhanger, and he told me that he didn't think that they had really found Earth. I told him that he was crazy, but I have been thinking about that and I suppose that I could be possible. It just doesn't seem likely. Like the Battlestar 1980, had an actual surviving Earth, so maybe he is onto something?
I suspect that question is going to come up in the show. Is this really Earth? The star patterns matching what they saw in the Tomb of Athena on Kobol would seem to clinch it, but maybe not. Personally I think it would suck if it wasn't Earth and they went for a bluff.
spoiler about earth below
Spoiler