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Posted 24 July 2010 - 09:15 PM

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Right, I know this isn't going to be everyone's idea of Gu'Rull, but this is sort of how I've interpreted him. I know there are a few proportion issues, and maybe his neck needs to be longer, but I wanted to try and do some justice to what is imo one of the most awesome creatures so far.

I just wanted him to look capable of taking out eighteen White Face barghast in a couple of minutes.

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Posted 24 July 2010 - 09:42 PM

Nice job Traveller! Love the lower body and the tail. Doesnt he have 3 sets of eyes?

I always pictured his wings to be more bat-like, almost draconic.

Hard to get an idea of how large he is without a comparison but isnt he like 16-18 foot tall?

All-in-all a great job.
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Posted 24 July 2010 - 11:02 PM

Pretty sure it was specifically stated somewhere that he had feathers - can't recall exactly right atm though.

Also, I'm editting thread title for spoilers, "K'chain Assassin" is pretty blatant, lol.
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Posted 25 July 2010 - 12:02 AM

Whoa...scary motherfucker. Great artwork.
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Posted 25 July 2010 - 04:34 AM

That's a really good picture, I like it a lot. There are some inconsistencies though:

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With this in mind, Gu'Rull unfolded his month-old wings, spreading the elongated feather-scales so that they could flatten and fill out under the pressure of the wind.
And then the assassin dropped over the sheer edge of Brow, wings snapping out to their fullest extent, and there arose the song of flight, a low, moaning whistle that was, for the Shi'gal, the music of freedom.
Leaving Ampelas Rooted ... it had been too long since Gu'Rull felt this . . . this exhilaration.
The two new eyes beneath the lines of his jaw now opened for the first time, and the compounded vision - of the sky ahead and the ground below - momentarily confused the assassin, but after a time Gu'Rull was able to enforce the necessary separation, so that the vistas found their proper relationship to one another, creating a vast panorama of the world beyond.


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The hinged claws on his narrow, long fingers slowly emerged from their membrane sheaths, slick with neural venom - although in the case of these soft-skinned humans, poison was not necessary.


So Gu'Rull's claws would not be out all the time, he has three sets of eyes, one below the jaw, and he is feather-scaled. Dunno what they would look like, to be honest. To answer someone's height question, he's as tall as three K'ell Hunters. I've always pictured him like Markus from Underworld 2 personally, but he's not really lizard-like.
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Posted 25 July 2010 - 05:50 AM

View PostMTS, on 25 July 2010 - 04:34 AM, said:

The two new eyes beneath the lines of his jaw now opened for the first time, and the compounded vision - of the sky ahead and the ground below - momentarily confused the assassin, but after a time Gu'Rull was able to enforce the necessary separation, so that the vistas found their proper relationship to one another, creating a vast panorama of the world beyond.

he has three sets of eyes, one below the jaw,


He has one set ("two new eyes") below the jaw, and one set on the "usual" spot, so where is the third set? Do KCCM have 2 sets normally? If so, where is the "normal" second set? The passage above only refers to the compounded vision of 2 sets of eyes - one above and one below the jawline - that temporarily confuses him until he makes the appropriate mental adjustments.

Refs please for 3 sets of eyes.

Page 11, UK (Transworld/Bantam) Trade paperback edition:

"... twice the height of a full-grown K'ell Hunter ..."

Page 12

"... foreshortened snout ..."

Page 122

"... the K'ell Hunter Sag'Churok swung round his massive, scarred head. Over his eyes, three distinct lids blinked in succession ..."

There's a lot of other stuff especially when
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but nothing that really adds anything distinctive past previous descriptions.

So what we get is K'ell have 1 set of eyes, with 3 lids. Gu'Rull - in the current configuration, that he has to adjust to - has an extra set of eyes below the jawline. That's two sets all up for him.

Other than that, I've got nothing.
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Posted 25 July 2010 - 06:56 AM

@ James Hetfield - he has two sets of eyes, with 3 lids on 'em. But where do you you put them 'below the jawline?' I've put another smaller set a the top of his neck. And, as they are a gift from Acyl, I've made them look more like they've opened within folds of his skin, rather than having an actual
skeletal orbit or anything. Only his wings, (as far as I know) are feather-scaled. It's pretty ambiguous, so I've done them more vulture than bat - everything seems to have big draconian wings, so it would be nice to try something different!

@ Silencer - yeah, oops. Thanks for changing it.

@ AIJ - Thanks!

@ MTS - I did read it before I drew it! I still think what I've drawn could be described as feather scaled wings. You can either draw them as a few, big flattened scales (like bat wings) or as smaller, feather like scales, more bird like. I chose the latter for this one, I'll try the other in my next pic of him.
Imo his snout is forshortened, when compared to other K'chain pictures - it has to have some length to fit in the 'rows of needle sharp teeth' though.
Fair point about the claws.

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 08:25 AM

View PostSombra, on 25 July 2010 - 05:50 AM, said:

View PostMTS, on 25 July 2010 - 04:34 AM, said:

The two new eyes beneath the lines of his jaw now opened for the first time, and the compounded vision - of the sky ahead and the ground below - momentarily confused the assassin, but after a time Gu'Rull was able to enforce the necessary separation, so that the vistas found their proper relationship to one another, creating a vast panorama of the world beyond.

he has three sets of eyes, one below the jaw,


He has one set ("two new eyes") below the jaw, and one set on the "usual" spot, so where is the third set? Do KCCM have 2 sets normally? If so, where is the "normal" second set? The passage above only refers to the compounded vision of 2 sets of eyes - one above and one below the jawline - that temporarily confuses him until he makes the appropriate mental adjustments.

Refs please for 3 sets of eyes.

Page 11, UK (Transworld/Bantam) Trade paperback edition:

"... twice the height of a full-grown K'ell Hunter ..."

Page 12

"... foreshortened snout ..."

Page 122

"... the K'ell Hunter Sag'Churok swung round his massive, scarred head. Over his eyes, three distinct lids blinked in succession ..."

There's a lot of other stuff especially when
Spoiler
but nothing that really adds anything distinctive past previous descriptions.

So what we get is K'ell have 1 set of eyes, with 3 lids. Gu'Rull - in the current configuration, that he has to adjust to - has an extra set of eyes below the jawline. That's two sets all up for him.

Other than that, I've got nothing.

You're right, my bad, I was remembering the three lids bit and got confused. Two sets, three eyes to a set, three inexplicably under the jaw, six total.

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@ MTS - I did read it before I drew it! I still think what I've drawn could be described as feather scaled wings. You can either draw them as a few, big flattened scales (like bat wings) or as smaller, feather like scales, more bird like. I chose the latter for this one, I'll try the other in my next pic of him.
Imo his snout is forshortened, when compared to other K'chain pictures - it has to have some length to fit in the 'rows of needle sharp teeth' though.
Fair point about the claws.

Didn't mean to suggest you didn't, I just didn't equate it with being feather-scaled when I first saw it. It's good though, I don't see how you could improve on the scaling, really.
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Posted 25 July 2010 - 08:37 AM

View PostMTS, on 25 July 2010 - 08:25 AM, said:


You're right, my bad, I was remembering the three lids bit and got confused. Two sets, three eyes to a set, three inexplicably under the jaw, six total.




Each eye has three sets of eyelids - like membranes - not three eyes. Two above the jaw and two below to aid his vision in flight.

@Traveller -I think you've done a pretty decent job with the feather-scales as they're not easy to draw.
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Posted 25 July 2010 - 08:40 AM

Huh. Best disregard anything I say from now on then. :)
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Posted 25 July 2010 - 10:11 AM

@Traveller - no problem. :)

And in case anyone was wondering, I wasn't actually commenting on the art when I pointed out the feathers, I was responding to this post by James:

View PostJames Hetfield, on 24 July 2010 - 09:42 PM, said:

Nice job Traveller! Love the lower body and the tail. Doesnt he have 3 sets of eyes?

I always pictured his wings to be more bat-like, almost draconic.

Hard to get an idea of how large he is without a comparison but isnt he like 16-18 foot tall?

All-in-all a great job.



Because Traveller did a really good job of getting the 'feathering' in there. XD
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Posted 25 July 2010 - 04:57 PM

That's cool although seeing the picture it reminds me more of gargoyle statues in Gothic cathedrals than how I actually picture Gu'rull.
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 02:41 PM

I think that looks pretty damn awesome:)
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