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#1 WhiskeyJackDaniels

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 11:00 PM

Should we expect ICE's work to have a continuity and overarching plot? It seems like Stonewielder will pick up some of the threads from RotCG, but considering he said his other books will be focusing on Jacuruku and Assail, will there be something that he is building to similar to SE and the Crippled God?

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 11:03 PM

I'd like some continuity between his books and Erikson's, personally.

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 11:06 PM

Not entirely sure. There's obviously links between ROTCG and Stonewielder, so there could be links between SW and the Darujhistan novel, as well as the others. Since we know so little about what's going on in the 4 places his books will explore though, we can't really say anything definitive at this point.

As for overarching plot, I don't expect anything on the scale of SE's, since his are part of the Malaz Book of the Fallen whereas ICE's are just Novels of the Malaz Empire. I can't really see how all those disparate plot threads would connect either...

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 11:58 PM

Kyle is gonna be the main hero in all of them, just to make everybody happy!

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 12:39 AM

Well that can't happen, seeing as he wasn't the main hero in RotCG...

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 12:59 AM

Hmm, I would like to see SE and ICE work together on a book.

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 01:22 AM

Kyle and Cutter's Excellent Adventure is the planned novella between Stonewielder and the Darujhistan novel.

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 01:27 AM

Oh dear god. I hope that NEVER happens in all of eternity.
(Just finished RotCG today, Kyle is, well, OBLIVIOUS to everything and Cutter is just a fantasy stereotypical idiot.)

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 01:30 AM

At least it wouldn't be Myhbe's Adventure in Wolfieland.

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 02:42 AM

You never know HD, who knows ICE could make cutter a beast. Then maybe they could kill each other, or do something strange.

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 11:05 AM

Changing Cutter to being anything other than an EMO will be hard I think.

I hope to see a nice succesful Malazan campaign for a change. Overrunning Theft for example

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 11:07 AM

Imperial High Mage Tayschrenn, on 07 June 2010 - 11:05 AM, said:

Changing Cutter to being anything other than an EMO will be hard I think.

I hope to see a nice succesful Malazan campaign for a change. Overrunning Theft for example

Invasion of Lether?

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 11:12 AM

strictly speaking that was not a Malazan invasion but a Bonhunter invasion...

but a campain with a few (ie more than one) piched battle would be nice...

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 11:17 AM

It was a Malazan army using Malazan tactics. Under the orders of the Empress or not is irrelevant.

The Chain of Dogs is also arguably a successful Malazan campaign, even if the 7th got slaughtered in the process.

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 01:24 PM

MTS, on 07 June 2010 - 11:17 AM, said:

Again, we keep forgetting that everything the 7th did and the Bonehunters are doing is for the grand scheme of the empire. The empress mentions this implicitly to Tavore and even ST and Cots seem to be working towards something like that.. There's ample evidence to my claim. What exactly is this empire? Is it an idea, is it a notion of power or just gods (no disrespect intended, I believe that the gods in the Malazan world are just pwerful beings) and their games?/ WHo knows???

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 01:45 PM

I don't think that the Bonehunters are doing it for the Empire. They are doing it for Humanity/The Fate of the World.

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 09:33 PM

High Mage Quick Ben, on 07 June 2010 - 12:59 AM, said:

Hmm, I would like to see SE and ICE work together on a book.

Any word on the proposed novella co-commissioned by PS Publishing and Sub Press?^<source> I know Steve revealed he and Cam were penning it together, but I have no idea if it's till on the cards.

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 09:47 PM

The Stormriders and Stormwall seem to be a common thread in ICE's books. I kind of like that. (Though I have no idea how they would factor into a Darujhistan novel.)

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 11:05 PM

if anything, its that darujhistan novel that ICE and SE need to work closely on. especially since karsa is (possibly) going to be in it, as he is a 100% erikson creation.

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Posted 08 June 2010 - 04:24 AM

Half the characters in MBotF are 100% Esslemont creations, so not really.

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