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The Last Question by Isaac Asimov A short story on the web
#1
Posted 31 May 2010 - 06:33 AM
http://www.multivax....t_question.html
I think I may have posted it before. Anyway, it's good. Read it if you haven't already.
I think I may have posted it before. Anyway, it's good. Read it if you haven't already.
#2
Posted 31 May 2010 - 07:13 AM
That stuff might just make me read s-f again. Damn you.
Now this will be in my head for the rest of the week. And whenever I try to talk to someone about it they'll give me blank stares. Fuck you, Apt.
Now this will be in my head for the rest of the week. And whenever I try to talk to someone about it they'll give me blank stares. Fuck you, Apt.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
#3
Posted 31 May 2010 - 07:14 AM
It's a classic, certainly.
Hello, soldiers, look at your mage, now back to me, now back at your mage, now back to me. Sadly, he isn’t me, but if he stopped being an unascended mortal and switched to Sole Spice, he could smell like he’s me. Look down, back up, where are you? You’re in a warren with the High Mage your cadre mage could smell like. What’s in your hand, back at me. I have it, it’s an acorn with two gates to that realm you love. Look again, the acorn is now otataral. Anything is possible when your mage smells like Sole Spice and not a Bole brother. I’m on a quorl.
#4
Posted 31 May 2010 - 08:59 AM
I remember reading that in high school. A truly great story.
I was only thinking about it the other day and couldn't remember the name of the story nor the author. Thanks.
I was only thinking about it the other day and couldn't remember the name of the story nor the author. Thanks.
"Fortune favors the bold, though statistics favor the cautious." - Indomitable Courteous (Icy) Fist, The Palace Job - Patrick Weekes
"Well well well ... if it ain't The Invisible C**t." - Billy Butcher, The Boys
"I have strong views about not tempting providence and, as a wise man once said, the difference between luck and a wheelbarrow is, luck doesn’t work if you push it." - Colonel Orhan, Sixteen Ways to Defend a Walled City - KJ Parker
"Well well well ... if it ain't The Invisible C**t." - Billy Butcher, The Boys
"I have strong views about not tempting providence and, as a wise man once said, the difference between luck and a wheelbarrow is, luck doesn’t work if you push it." - Colonel Orhan, Sixteen Ways to Defend a Walled City - KJ Parker
#5
Posted 01 June 2010 - 01:26 PM
Sixty years since it was written and it still packs a punch. That's a classic.
OK, I think I got it, but just in case, can you say the whole thing over again? I wasn't really listening.
#6
Posted 04 June 2010 - 03:45 AM
I remember reading this, the first scrap of Asimov I'd ever read. And the rest was history...
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Peopleare harrasing me... grrrrrh.
Also people with big noses aren't jews, they're just french
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bla bla bla
Peopleare harrasing me... grrrrrh.
Also people with big noses aren't jews, they're just french
EDIT: We has editted so mucj that5 we're not quite sure... also, leave britney alone.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
#7
Posted 06 June 2010 - 11:44 AM
Read it long ago, years before I knew what entropy was i think, great story, thanks.
#8
Posted 31 July 2010 - 06:39 PM
Sombra, on 31 May 2010 - 08:59 AM, said:
I remember reading that in high school. A truly great story.
I was only thinking about it the other day and couldn't remember the name of the story nor the author. Thanks.
I was only thinking about it the other day and couldn't remember the name of the story nor the author. Thanks.
I consider this the best short story I've ever read.
In my opinion, it is far, far beyond anything else Asimov ever wrote. I actually dislike almost everything he wrote except this.
Asimov himself wrote that many people don't remember the title or the author but the idea sticks with them for life.
This post has been edited by zpconn: 31 July 2010 - 06:41 PM
#9
Posted 01 February 2013 - 10:20 PM
Briar King, on 01 February 2013 - 10:00 PM, said:
This is the only Asmivo thread I could find. I'm watching I Robot right now and in not a big SF reader but his Foundation bks sound kinda cool. Can anyone tell me more about it?
Egghead dude develops math theories that predict socioeconomics, politics and war. Gets hooked into money to deal with a dying galactic empire, creates a foundation of people to use that math to survive collapse and rebuild empire. Plan doesn't go quite as intended.
Nice concepts, but Asimov is kind of a shitty writer. Not a must read, but will pass the time ok.
I survived the Permian and all I got was this t-shirt.
#10
Posted 01 February 2013 - 10:23 PM
Just when I was getting into SF many moons ago I read the classics first, The Foundation series, 2001-3001, Rama, tons of Phillip K Dick, etc.
I could certainly recommend trying out the foundation series but it comes with a disclaimer. If you've already experinced good, modern, hard sci-fi it might be a bit tough reading through the classic stuff unless you're prepared for it. The foundation series is preposterously anachronistic in many places and the prose, dialogue and story... to a degree... is similarly marked by the time that has past. This is fiction written in a bygone era when the cold war was at its highest, nuclear power was a strange new science and few of the modern tropes had yet been established.
I could certainly recommend trying out the foundation series but it comes with a disclaimer. If you've already experinced good, modern, hard sci-fi it might be a bit tough reading through the classic stuff unless you're prepared for it. The foundation series is preposterously anachronistic in many places and the prose, dialogue and story... to a degree... is similarly marked by the time that has past. This is fiction written in a bygone era when the cold war was at its highest, nuclear power was a strange new science and few of the modern tropes had yet been established.
#11
Posted 01 February 2013 - 10:30 PM
I found the Foundation series to be pretty dry and dull, but his R. Daneel Olivaw books ("Robot series") are great, the first being the hardest to get through, IMO.
This post has been edited by Salt-Man Z: 01 February 2013 - 10:30 PM
"Here is light. You will say that it is not a living entity, but you miss the point that it is more, not less. Without occupying space, it fills the universe. It nourishes everything, yet itself feeds upon destruction. We claim to control it, but does it not perhaps cultivate us as a source of food? May it not be that all wood grows so that it can be set ablaze, and that men and women are born to kindle fires?"
―Gene Wolfe, The Citadel of the Autarch
―Gene Wolfe, The Citadel of the Autarch
#12
Posted 01 February 2013 - 10:43 PM
I, personally, love the Foundation books. The thing to remember is that Asimov was an ideas writer, and characterisation came a (distant) second to the ideas. Much of the plot is at the service of the ideas, too. If you read SF for the ideas, you'll love Asimov. If you need believable characters talking reasonable dialogue...not so much.
It is perfectly monstrous the way people go about nowadays saying things against one, behind one's back, that are absolutely and entirely true.
-- Oscar Wilde
-- Oscar Wilde
#13
Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:55 AM
Dune is, in my opinion, fantasy in space. It's also more of a commentary on economics, industry, rulership and culture than so much a story about warring planets. It's really imaginative and Herbert could write the shit out of scene. IMO anyway. Then again I read the first book like 15 years ago or something.
#14
Posted 02 February 2013 - 08:12 PM
"The Last Question" was actually the short story Asimov was most proud of. One should also read 'Nightfall", which for a while was considered the best science fiction short story of all time. Further, the original Foundation trilogy got the Hugo for best series of all time... several decades ago
Asimov rose to fame during the pulp era. That means a lot of his stuff, including his longer works, would have been serialized in magazines. Once he tried to transition to the current era of book series... meyh. There was a lot of hit and miss (I can not remember where The Gods Themselves fall in this scheme... but it is well worth the read for the first two excellent parts. The third and concluding part dropped the ball completely and seemed to only slightly remember what the book was actually about).
I would definitely read I, Robot; the Caves of Steel, The Naked Sun, The Robots of Dawn (skip Robot and Empire); Foundation; Foundation and Empire; Second Foundation (The other Foundation books are decent... with the exception of Foundation and Earth, which will do if you need to kill time or absolutely need to resolve Foundation's Edge cliffhanger) The Gods Themselves.
Asimov rose to fame during the pulp era. That means a lot of his stuff, including his longer works, would have been serialized in magazines. Once he tried to transition to the current era of book series... meyh. There was a lot of hit and miss (I can not remember where The Gods Themselves fall in this scheme... but it is well worth the read for the first two excellent parts. The third and concluding part dropped the ball completely and seemed to only slightly remember what the book was actually about).
I would definitely read I, Robot; the Caves of Steel, The Naked Sun, The Robots of Dawn (skip Robot and Empire); Foundation; Foundation and Empire; Second Foundation (The other Foundation books are decent... with the exception of Foundation and Earth, which will do if you need to kill time or absolutely need to resolve Foundation's Edge cliffhanger) The Gods Themselves.
#15
Posted 02 February 2013 - 08:18 PM
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One should also read 'Nightfall", which for a while was considered the best science fiction short story of all time. Further, the original Foundation trilogy got the Hugo for best series of all time... several decades ago
Is that the one about a planet that experiences darkness only every x-thousand years? That's one of his best.
#16
Posted 02 February 2013 - 08:21 PM
Avatar, on 02 February 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:
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One should also read 'Nightfall", which for a while was considered the best science fiction short story of all time. Further, the original Foundation trilogy got the Hugo for best series of all time... several decades ago
Is that the one about a planet that experiences darkness only every x-thousand years? That's one of his best.
Yep, that's the one. The story that pretty much defined SF's 'sense of wonder' for a generation.
It is perfectly monstrous the way people go about nowadays saying things against one, behind one's back, that are absolutely and entirely true.
-- Oscar Wilde
-- Oscar Wilde
#17
Posted 02 February 2013 - 11:25 PM
I really should read the short story of Nightfall sometime; I read the novel written with Robert Silverberg (?) and found it relatively pointless.
"Here is light. You will say that it is not a living entity, but you miss the point that it is more, not less. Without occupying space, it fills the universe. It nourishes everything, yet itself feeds upon destruction. We claim to control it, but does it not perhaps cultivate us as a source of food? May it not be that all wood grows so that it can be set ablaze, and that men and women are born to kindle fires?"
―Gene Wolfe, The Citadel of the Autarch
―Gene Wolfe, The Citadel of the Autarch
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