[Silanah]

Hey hey.

[Silanah]

Aww...

Well I'll be watching Frisky Dingo on my laptop if someone pops in.

[D'riss]

Why would i reveal that info (the radio channel) on thread? When i left for the night it was under the assumption that omtose was coming out to protect ruse and i was hoping to lynch ruse and see if someone blocked omtose. If ruse came back syndicate I would have been vindicated and omtose would have been lynched next for his fake reveal. It isnt a useful ability now that the syndicate know about it. So heres the deal then folks, if you want my role pm or my lover to come forward its on the basis that either omtose's lover goes first or I reveal everything I know in as much detail as I have. This will let you know why i think the cf my lover got on Tellan was fabricated as well as a good sized portion of almost all the factions.

Despite you all thinking I am being weird about there being only one other syndicate agent after omtose, I still suspect ruse and so in my mind the team of five syndicate agents is this hp, rashan, omtose, ruse and our mystery man. If i am wrong about ruse then I am wrong it wouldn't be the first time.

[D'riss]

sorry just noticed that I said cf and I meant just a find, obviously as tellan is alive and well.

[D'riss]

Ruse, on 28 May 2010 - 03:10 AM, said:

The timing of Omtose's attack was not convenient for me at all, however. And it all seemed so poorly executed, I was sure he was fake-symping me. I still think he's the best lynch candidate, but if he comes up spy, I think you can guess who's going on the top of my list.

Yeah I don't trust eloth either...

[Galain]

D, on 28 May 2010 - 07:13 AM, said:

Why would i reveal that info (the radio channel) on thread? When i left for the night it was under the assumption that omtose was coming out to protect ruse and i was hoping to lynch ruse and see if someone blocked omtose. If ruse came back syndicate I would have been vindicated and omtose would have been lynched next for his fake reveal. It isnt a useful ability now that the syndicate know about it. So heres the deal then folks, if you want my role pm or my lover to come forward its on the basis that either omtose's lover goes first or I reveal everything I know in as much detail as I have. This will let you know why i think the cf my lover got on Tellan was fabricated as well as a good sized portion of almost all the factions.

Despite you all thinking I am being weird about there being only one other syndicate agent after omtose, I still suspect ruse and so in my mind the team of five syndicate agents is this hp, rashan, omtose, ruse and our mystery man. If i am wrong about ruse then I am wrong it wouldn't be the first time.

So either Omtose goes first, or you reveal all is that the options we have? Well if your telling the truth Omtose doesn't have a lover and which case no one will come forward and we're not going to get anywhere unfortunately.

[D'riss]

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2010 - 03:27 AM, said:

Ok, this is an interesting argument going on.

I have no doubt that D'riss is feeding us some amount of bullshit, but I have serious issues with the hissy fit Omtose threw when he came on thread. His defense was to be pissy, and that has all the markings of a scum who has his ass in the trap with no room to maneuver. If D'riss was playing us so hard, surely Omtose could have come up with something constructive to make us question D'riss' information? D'riss was early onto the Rashan lynch as well, right? He's not PI exactly, but he has vetted himself fairly well.

Sil, you're not entirely wrong - I'm sure D'riss isn't playing his entire hand, but you are arguing emphatically enough to either a) know something you need to share or b ) have been turned somehow.

If I had to pick a likely scenario, I would say that Omtose is indeed scum, but D'riss doctored part of that communication to cover his own role in the double NK last night. I'm not sure how it worked out exactly - probably based on other intercepted information - but I agree that a syndicate who can order 2 players to their deaths seems wildly overpowered.

Is anyone playing their entire hand? In response the the one before I have already made it pretty clear there are five syndicate when I told you there were six radio channels, five for the syndicate and one for the mole. We all had Meanas down as a likely candidate for baldy, and we know the leader of the chinese faction was able to order him about, I do not think it is that much of a stretch to think he could force meanas to kill when it was clearly shown that he was forcing his and rashan's vote. Heres silanahs scenario:-

Silanah, on 28 May 2010 - 12:01 AM, said:

As for the deaths last night, your PM is decidedly vague on how it goes down. How exactly did Omtose kill Meanas and GL (since that's what he said he would do)? Short answer? He didn't. Meanas killed GL on his orders and then you killed Meanas. I have no idea how you knew that, but since GL was some kind of spokeswoman/reporter person, I wouldn't be surprised if GL could see people's action PMs or something like that. It's fairly easy to doctor a time stamp, and as for them both CFing Spy, it only makes sense for Omtose to kill two Chinese (if that's even who they were) if he was scum. Yet a scum who is able to order his own innocent teammates around? That is ridiculously overpowered. As for knowing LPs, big woop. In a game with so many BPs and LPs, I find it inconceivable there isn't some sort of find that give that information.

Firstly, I quoted omtose pm on the radio channel, I didnt write it and so its vague nature has nothing to do with me. Secondly you already agreed in the accusation that meanas is ordered to do the hit, but maybe you should have read closer to the scene afterward.

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She gathered herself, and vowed to come back with a vengeance. She would relive every moment of being tied up on that toilet, whimpering in fear, crying with lack of sleep, first feeling her legs go weighty with the blood that couldn't circulate, then the ache, then not feeling them at all, feeling the blood drain from her bound hands, then the rush as the man with the sword came in, the tears of relief as she was finally freed by the man with the handlebar moustache, who now stood watch over her. It would make her stronger, she vowed, but then, she realised she could only crawl up into a ball and cry, despite the attention the scarred stranger gave her.

here meanas clearly states he is being ordered to kill gl against his wishes.

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The bald man was unhappy about his assignment, but he would complete it. He moved up to the young woman, and reckoned the commando who brought her to the hotel would never allow this. That one was dangerous. It would have to be quick and furious, and would likely kill him. But a mission was a mission. He undid his robe, standing there half naked, torso muscled and toned by years of kung fu training, mind sharp as a knife from endless meditation. He moved like a snake, and had snapped her neck like a twig before her guardian could respond.
He welcomed death with arms outspread. Nowhere in his orders did it say he had to survive, and he practically embraced the punch of the combat knife as it entered his armpit.

Meanas is dead. He was Cao Ne Fan, a Chinese Spy.
Galayn Lord is dead. She was Gao He Chiang, a Chinese Spy.

And now this player is saying that they committed suicide after the fact.

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She arrived in silence, strangling cord at the ready, then looked at the fireburnt man, who stood guard before the door. He shook his head. "She died before I could intervene. Her killer wasn't happy about it either, he practically threw himself on my blade. It seems your undercover operation is nearly finished, but she was not amongst the ones you were looking for."

Silanah also says some abilities seem ridiculously overpowered and yet says I have to be scum because of what he perceives my abilites to be? thats a little contradictory. Omtose cant be scum because his powers seem to exagerated, yet I must be scum because I am overpowered? How do you reconcile that exactly? Worst thing is I know you arent syndicate, I even dropped a major hint last night that I knew exactly who you are silanah. There also doesnt seem to be any real indication that you were recriuted, so you actually belief this convoluted mess you have come up with instead of the simple truth.

[D'riss]

well i will post all the radio chatter then for a start. see if you think i faked it all

day 2

From 19 May 2010 - 01:18 PM:

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Ok, can't go into too much detail on this channel but i thought it would probably be a good way to get some idea of numbers and stuff.
Also bare in mind that this channel might not be secure

From 19 May 2010 - 01:22 PM:

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More information about this channel.

This channel can only be used at most every other day, so after today we wont get it again until day 4.
Also my country are using the same sort of thing right now as well, with the same limitations (in a different thread though, so they wont see these messages)

From 19 May 2010 - 01:51 PM:

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What is the size of the team? 4-5?

Beware of listeners.

I have no contact with my country, or anybody else outside of this thread

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From 19 May 2010 - 02:11 PM:

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I have a lover relationship with one other person from our team. So there are at least 3 of us definitely

From 19 May 2010 - 02:27 PM:

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It seems to me that 3 people have responded so far, so does that not make us at least 4? May I suggest we sign out with a specific number at the end of the first new post each of us makes, just to avoid confusion in regards to how many we are and who says what.

I'll be 1 because it makes me feel good about myself.

1.

From 19 May 2010 - 02:31 PM:

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ok
2

From 19 May 2010 - 02:36 PM:

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Alright guys, just a quick, surreptitious question. Who don't you like in the game so far? Who do we want gone?

3

From 19 May 2010 - 02:38 PM:

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I am pretty sure we cannot identify ourselves in any way under penalty of mod beat down, per Tapper's request. But for counting purposes only (I will not use this number again), I will add a number to the counter.

4.

From 19 May 2010 - 02:56 PM:

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I don't see any glaring threats at this point.

more next...

[D'riss]

From 19 May 2010 - 02:59 PM:

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May be in our best interest to remove a low poster over a high poster

From 19 May 2010 - 07:00 PM:

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"Team member #5 here. So we're sitting at the top of day 2 with zero people dead, which is a little concerning. I'm also a little concerned about friendly fire, as we are clearly not all aware of each other. "

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From 19 May 2010 - 07:05 PM:

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OK, so we're going with random atm...also, a lot of the scenes are talking about bugs and suchlike, so I don't think we want to talk too much here. Would hate to have the entire Syndicate faction outed on day one, after all...

From 19 May 2010 - 07:16 PM:

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I suppose for posterity's sake I should say something. at least so you guys get the better picture of numbers. 6
I doubt we can reveal ourselves, since we can't hint at who we are in any way/shape or form.
we haven't seen any NK-indicating actions, really, I'd assume that's because NKs are associated with higher levels.

From 19 May 2010 - 07:26 PM:

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Seems to me so far there is only a number to be had, and that had already been guessed at in thread. It would seem to me we'll be better able to get a use from this thing next time it'll be available.

No deaths certainly are problematic but so far we've been given a free ride from the rest of the players, so all in all I don't think we can complain.

My scum philosophy generally revolves around keeping as many distractions around as possible. Ergo I see the value of going for the low posters first. Additionally, though people claim differently a lot of information can be had from night kills, but not if the dead player was a non-entity.

From 19 May 2010 - 07:48 PM:

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NKs CAN provide info, but the layers upon layers of WIFOM accusatons we can toss to counter, whilst sounding pefectly legit reallly undermines their validity.

From 19 May 2010 - 07:50 PM:

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Here's an idea to whoever is bandying the faction name around: If someone is eavesdropping, you just told them which faction you're in.

How about we just say "the team" or "the faction." Stop using keywords like "innocents" or "scum" or anything that would clue people in.

Instead, be vague. We all know what you're talking about.

We do need a plan for today... We can't say, "Do an action that person," because that's against the rules and is sort of a reverse reveal (revealing who we aren't), but I think we should at least try to find a generic type of poster to focus on (low posters is my pick).

From 20 May 2010 - 12:15 AM:

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I suppose I haven't gotten paranoid enough
anyhow, my personal preference would be for players who are just being too random, but i'll go with whatever the team decides

From 20 May 2010 - 12:17 AM:

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A low poster seems like a logical choice to me

[D'riss]

From 20 May 2010 - 07:22 AM:

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So I was thinking that we probably have a primary enforcer of abilities and some secondary, but we don't necessarily want to use abilities on the same person and the primary may not be able to communicate with all the secondaries. Maybe the primary should focus on low-posters while secondary focuses on low-medium posters?

From 20 May 2010 - 08:04 AM:

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I think that's a good plan

From 20 May 2010 - 08:10 AM:

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Just thought you should know Korvalain is American

-- end of Day 2.

[D'riss]

Day 4

From 25 May 2010 - 02:31 AM:

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Hello again people

From 25 May 2010 - 02:53 AM:

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As of right now im still lovers with the person i was previously connected to.
and have just found another of us that im connected to now

Hugin & Munin, on 25 May 2010 - 02:13 PM, said:

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Alright, we're not doing too great on the kill front, I have to say. At least we haven't lost anyone except the Barghast alt, what was up with that?

Oh, and I keep getting PM's from the Chinese team, sadly directed specifically at me, not anything with useful info

From 25 May 2010 - 07:33 AM:

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I still know only one person, but have contact with nobody on our team. The vast majority of my actions have failed. I did not kill Emurlahn or Barghast.

I believe there are a significant amount of protection mechanics in play here.

I have also discovered the identity of one American whom I believe is not on the team.

From 25 May 2010 - 08:14 AM:

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What's the plan tonight?

From 25 May 2010 - 01:04 PM:

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I've gotten contact with one member of our team (finally). Sadly, my position is rather precarious because of some very bad luck. We'll see how it all turns out.

-- end of Day 4

[D'riss]

Only one message on Day 6, the one from Omtose.

From 26 May 2010 - 01:07 PM:

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Ok, I need the name of one person who is most definitely not scum. Preferably a low poster.

I'm going to die tomorrow night, so I plan on false outing a player by lying about a find, then push the lynch. Tonight I plan on killing Meanas and Galayn lord, then use a LP for tomorrow day......Brilliant!

This post has been edited by D'riss: 28 May 2010 - 08:05 AM

[D'riss]

Your move omtose.

[Silanah]

...obviously fake.

[Silanah]

Oh, and I noticed your hint, D'riss. You asshole.

[D'riss]

Ok it was a bit of a cheap shot but i still cannot believe that you missed it. I can identify everyone bar maybe three or four players in the scenes so give me a little leeway on the strutting. If I am wrong about ruse like you think and omtose is trying to nail him both of us with his reveal then we have two unknowns so putting up our respective infos might not be that bad an idea tomorrow.

[D'riss]

I thought you said you just noticed it, damn my dyslexic brain! I do not jumble up letters, I mix up entire words!

[Tellan]

Ok D'riss, could you tell me a little more about the find that supposedly says I'm syndicate that you got from your lover? Maybe point out the scene it occurs in? Either you're BSing, or someone has fed you some bad info.

[Silanah]

D, on 28 May 2010 - 08:15 AM, said:

Ok it was a bit of a cheap shot but i still cannot believe that you missed it. I can identify everyone bar maybe three or four players in the scenes so give me a little leeway on the strutting. If I am wrong about ruse like you think and omtose is trying to nail him both of us with his reveal then we have two unknowns so putting up our respective infos might not be that bad an idea tomorrow.

Well, if Omtose turns up scum then I might actually enjoy eating all this humble pie...

I didn't miss it lol. You are wrong about Ruse. Ruse is probably a woman with henchmen, but not the only one.

[D'riss]

Tellan, on 28 May 2010 - 08:19 AM, said:

Ok D'riss, could you tell me a little more about the find that supposedly says I'm syndicate that you got from your lover? Maybe point out the scene it occurs in? Either you're BSing, or someone has fed you some bad info.

I already said the info was bullshit, I am fairly certain you arent even european to start with. When my lover received the spokesperson ability on day 2 it came with a find on you saying you where euro syndicate. Thats all the info i have on it. It is the scene about the press conference. i believe it came from hp and that it was infact his true cf.