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Bread showed up, Ruse already posted
I'm not sure how many of PBs questions are questions rather than musings, so will stay away from answering a bit, apart from the bit about stacking all his actions with Wetworks.

Each stacked action counts as 1 harmful ability, but they all resolve at the same time as if they were one action.

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I think that was the only question that he asked... How are you feeling today?

Vengeance

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 18 May 2010 - 02:24 PM

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Questions from Ruse

Ruse, on 18 May 2010 - 02:22 PM, said:

All right, so now that I realize that I am syndicate, I have a couple questions about my abilities:

First of all, the level 5 ability, when it says "he will gain a lynch proof or permanently becomes immune to guards upon your death," does that mean I get to choose which ability to give him, or that he has a lynch-proof before I die and becomes immune to guards after I die? Or is it something else I'm not seeing?

Also, with the level 3 upgrade, a spy who guards me doesn't get a full find on me when the ability activates, right? I'm a little unclear about what is meant by "on finds and as the end result of your action."

And finally, in reference to "Underneath my shirt..." in conjunction with "Government Contacts," does being "the target of a find" pertain to before or after I change the ability, i.e. do I learn about someone *attempting* to find me or guard me or either when "Underneath my shirt..." is activated?

For "Honor Demands it" it doesn't say does it... It is a either or not an and.

The upgrade. Correct if it is activated then a spy does not get a full find on you.

Government Contracts is an auto ability. Thus it works with "underneath my shirt".

Of course Tapper might disagree but I doubt it.

Vengeance

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Path-Shaper, on 18 May 2010 - 02:23 PM, said:

I think that was the only question that he asked... How are you feeling today?

Vengeance

fucking knackered. Slept 5.5 hours in total in the past 48 hours thanks to a snoring colleague and 3 snoring (and 1 farting) Poles in the train sleeping department i was in, and my mouth tastes of old beer, which is a remarkable feat seeing how Pilsner Urquell doesn't do that and that I have brushed my teeth like six times already since yesterday evening when i boarded the train and had my last beer.

However, this game is making up for all of it

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An ealier question from PBockra that I forgot to post...

Mockra, on 17 May 2010 - 03:11 PM, said:

Does Subtle Sabotage prevent off-thread communications? edit: I think you probably can't answer this, I noticed it specifically says it prevents (B, Talk) abilities, so that's probably the best you can say. That probably means most off-thread communication abilities.

For Stranglehold, on the second usage for a player, am I allowed to choose what to block from among the level 0 and 1 active abilities in addition to the level 2, 3, and 4 abilities? On the third and subsequent usages for a player, is there any ability-blocking component is it only the ability-removal component?

He is wanting answers and so I told him that you were debating on how to answer him.

Vengeance

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Ruse, on 18 May 2010 - 02:38 PM, said:

Hugin & Munin, on 18 May 2010 - 02:32 PM, said:

Government Contracts is an auto ability. Thus it works with "underneath my shirt".
Vengeance

I know that it works with the ability, I am just unclear *how* it works. If I am "the target of a find," does that mean an attempted find or an actual find or either one. I just think it's a little ambiguous because you could define a find as performing a find action, or you could define it as actually getting find information on a player.

actual find getting through.
A finding attempt on you that is guarded, is not going to activate any of the abilities.

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Also, with the level 3 upgrade, a spy who guards me doesn't get a full find on me when the ability activates, right? I'm a little unclear about what is meant by "on finds and as the end result of your action."

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…Are My Tattoos (*): upgrade of Underneath My Shirt (1). 1 additional use of Underneath My Shirt, which now works on the next action targeting you, regardless of whether it was performed by a Syndicate or Spy player – but only Syndicate players will be informed of your alignment on finds and as the end result of your action.

ok. The Syndicate players learn you are syndicate, and they learn (get told by us ) also that they get the info as the result of an ability you have. If the player is a Spy doing this, he will not learn your alignment.
...unless he has abilities that circumvent yours.


Honor demands it: the choice of immunity to guards or LP is offered to the Syndicate player you selected, it is not yours to make.

- Tapper

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Hugin & Munin, on 18 May 2010 - 02:46 PM, said:

An ealier question from PBockra that I forgot to post...

Mockra, on 17 May 2010 - 03:11 PM, said:

Does Subtle Sabotage prevent off-thread communications? edit: I think you probably can't answer this, I noticed it specifically says it prevents (B, Talk) abilities, so that's probably the best you can say. That probably means most off-thread communication abilities.

For Stranglehold, on the second usage for a player, am I allowed to choose what to block from among the level 0 and 1 active abilities in addition to the level 2, 3, and 4 abilities? On the third and subsequent usages for a player, is there any ability-blocking component is it only the ability-removal component?

He is wanting answers and so I told him that you were debating on how to answer him.

Vengeance

OK, will get back to him.
1) it deactivates all abilities that are tagged with (B, Talk). Stuff that allows communication but is somehow tagged as (H, Kill) will still go through.

Stranglehold second use: yes. 2 from 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, but you are free to pick 2 level 4 abilities, if you like.
On third use it is only removal, no longer disabling.

Going to tell him now

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 18 May 2010 - 02:58 PM

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More Mockra

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Do they all count for 'targeting' in the same phase in which they resolve or in the same phase in which they target?

I'm asking because of this VC:

7 points: Having targeted more people with night actions on an average per player than any other team (Americans, Chinese, EU, Japanese, Syndicate) in the game.
Since I target with Thorn in Your Side as a night action, but all of the other actions would technically 'resolve' when Thorn 'resolves' in the following Day. Do those extra actions count as 'targeting' during the night or the day when they 'activate'?

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Path-Shaper, on 18 May 2010 - 02:40 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 18 May 2010 - 02:23 PM, said:

I think that was the only question that he asked... How are you feeling today?

Vengeance

fucking knackered. Slept 5.5 hours in total in the past 48 hours thanks to a snoring colleague and 3 snoring (and 1 farting) Poles in the train sleeping department i was in, and my mouth tastes of old beer, which is a remarkable feat seeing how Pilsner Urquell doesn't do that and that I have brushed my teeth like six times already since yesterday evening when i boarded the train and had my last beer.

However, this game is making up for all of it

I take it that you didn't have enough loud music for the trip... Tell me that when the train finally rolled into the station you were the only one to leave the car...

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Man, that guy is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too smart.

Mockra, on 18 May 2010 - 02:52 PM, said:

Do they all count for 'targeting' in the same phase in which they resolve or in the same phase in which they target?

I'm asking because of this VC:

7 points: Having targeted more people with night actions on an average per player than any other team (Americans, Chinese, EU, Japanese, Syndicate) in the game.
Since I target with Thorn in Your Side as a night action, but all of the other actions would technically 'resolve' when Thorn 'resolves' in the following Day. Do those extra actions count as 'targeting' during the night or the day when they 'activate'?

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wetworks reads:

You can use any number of harmful abilities you possess (Sabotage Communications, Stranglehold, Strangulation, Traitor Betrayed) as a single action on a player of your choice, as long as the player is either targeted by Thorn in Your Side or guarded by another Russian player.

So, for Thorn in Your Side, it is the moment of targeting, not its resolution (Note that all actions but Subtle Sabotage can be used in both day and at night).
so, you can target a player with that shitload of actions for the next phase that you also target with Thorn in Your Side for the next phase.
So, for Thorn in your side, timing depends on the phase of targeting with Thorn, instead of resolving.

Alternatively, you can target a player with those abilities for this phase, in which he must currently being guarded (thus, the guard is resolved for this phase). If the guard is somehow stopped, none of your abilities get through.

I hope that is clear Language is sometimes a bitch, and I'm not a native speaker, despite being quite fluent

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Hugin & Munin, on 18 May 2010 - 02:57 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 18 May 2010 - 02:40 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 18 May 2010 - 02:23 PM, said:

I think that was the only question that he asked... How are you feeling today?

Vengeance

fucking knackered. Slept 5.5 hours in total in the past 48 hours thanks to a snoring colleague and 3 snoring (and 1 farting) Poles in the train sleeping department i was in, and my mouth tastes of old beer, which is a remarkable feat seeing how Pilsner Urquell doesn't do that and that I have brushed my teeth like six times already since yesterday evening when i boarded the train and had my last beer.

However, this game is making up for all of it

I take it that you didn't have enough loud music for the trip... Tell me that when the train finally rolled into the station you were the only one to leave the car...

I had my iPod with me, spent the night listening to soothing songs and sighing french chanteuses rather than smelly snoring poles .

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And the loveydovey syndicate alts co-operate awesomely - they have already shared their PMs.

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I just got reamed out at work as such I won't be on much today.. Sorry mate..

Vengeance

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Hugin & Munin, on 18 May 2010 - 03:36 PM, said:

I just got reamed out at work as such I won't be on much today.. Sorry mate..

Vengeance

nps, work comes first, second and third. That and home. Best of luck in the sweatshop...

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On my phone for a bit. I agree about pb... Way too smart.

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Path-Shaper, on 18 May 2010 - 04:20 PM, said:

On my phone for a bit. I agree about pb... Way too smart.

it's really quiet for now. I think everyone currently on thinks they'll be on later to put an action in... I certainly hope dibs does, cause that's important to the Ruskies especially if people level today.

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HPorgy

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A couple of questions:

Does my lover connections help with the EU point thing?

Do my previously used finds also morph into lover bonds once I've reached lvl 2, or will only finds done after I reached that point count?

No you have absolutely no bearing what so ever on EU points...Your scum morgy.. Horrible horrible scum.

Not from what I can see....

Vengeance

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Also, yesterday was the 17th of may. We drank way too much beer and two bottles of Aquevit. Twas great fun then, not so much fun now.

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Olar Ethil, on 18 May 2010 - 06:15 PM, said:

Question:

If I am Level 1 and I target ,say Ruse, with 'I Could Have Given you the World (ICHGYTW)" on day 2. and he tries to kill me on night 5. It won't work correct?


spin off question. If , in the mean time we have leveled up to level 2. Does my ICHGYTW now give me the type of action because of "Foolish Sentiment" even though, the ICHGYTW was placed at level one? So I am asking if my abilities placed in early levels upgrade with me as I level.


Thanks!

If that is his first action against you since you targeted him with "ICHGYTHW" then yes it won't work.

In this case yes. "Foolish Sentiment (*): upgrade to I Could Have Given You The World (1). 1 extra use of I Could Have Given You The World. You now also learned what type of action you were targeted with (Harmful, Beneficial, Neutral – Kill, Guard, Recruit, Hinder, Find, Heal, Talk, Aid). This counts as an Investigation for every ability explained this way."

Also ICHGYTHW is a level 0 ability, The world is not enough is the first expansion of ICHGYTHW at level 1. Then "Foolish Sentiment" at level 2 .

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HPorgy

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not what???

Your previous finds don't seem to morph into lover connections...

Also we are off for tomorrow... I have way to much homework this week... Sorry...

Vengeance

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Hugin & Munin, on 18 May 2010 - 07:07 PM, said:

HPorgy

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not what???

Your previous finds don't seem to morph into lover connections...

Also we are off for tomorrow... I have way to much homework this week... Sorry...

Vengeance

nps and don't worry, I'll manage I have taken this week off, after all, and since every hour of sleep is more than I got so far, I bet I can make do with less than the regular holiday 10 hours/day