[D'riss]

alright...im up to date.


Well....either korbas is scum, in which case, perfect timing and good play.
Or he is inno and that was the worst thought out reveal of all time.

The only case on myself other than this reveal is based on META, WIFOM posting times. Which Korbas HIMSELF is guilty of too if true.
oh...and my "tone" of play.

Guys...this is it... im telling you if we have not killed a symp then its game over if you lynch me.
I can clearly see Osseric, korbas and Fener giving each other reach-arounds right now behind the scenes.
Id be more than happy to lynch any one of them.

Less so for korbas though...he MIGHT be telling the truth. So i would rather go for his cronies.
I dont see how he can claim to block me, but then at the same time also think that there are other killers around?
He contradicts himself.
By his own words he felt he was going to get lynched!! He had to fake reveal if he was scum.

He is begging for a heal so that you heal him tonight and he can then not worry about getting his kill blocked. Game over.
Its perfect perfect timing for a fake reveal.

[D'riss]

anyways...thats it really.
i cant actually defend against any of this.
Its all up to the other inno's weather they believe me or not.

Im not entirely sold on korbas as he does not doubt himself and seems to have taken it apon his own shoulders to win it or lose it for team inno.
I just cant see a guard coming out and doing what he has done without having better proof.

[Mockra]

Ok, combo breaker for D'riss, since he dominates posting and words flying everywhere and all around the thread- feel free to continue after this

Liosan, on 07 May 2010 - 05:24 AM, said:

First, this screams to me as someone trying to pass themselves off as a potato so people are much more likely to listen to what you say.

Second, the arguement on D'riss is reasonable so there should be pressure on him. Korbas I'm not sure about especially with his reveal. Either he is telling the truth or he wants a healer to protect him so a kill will more likely go through tonight.

Third, to add to my second point, any attempt to blindly direct attention to someone for no other reason than to take pressure away from someone with some serious fith on them tells me Mockra that you are probably a symp.

So the question is who are you symping.... Most likely D'riss.

Vote D'riss

Lets see if Korbas is right.

So arguements on D'riss are reasonable, but Korbas not? Just because he revealed? Woa, since when did we start believing in reveals but not taken them with a grain of salt?

If Korbas is a symp, he could be fake revealing to push a D'riss lynch and hope for a NK. If D'riss CFs inno, then he's cornered but if there's a NK in there its down to 6 people with all 3 scum potentially alive!Also, Liosan, if Korbas gets discredited, then the only one who gets to benefit the most at the moment, is you, so in my book its in your best intrest at the moment to direct all pressure on D'riss and keep Korbas around.Your vote on D'riss, but then your sudden backpedal makes me believe more and more you are into this.


As far as me symping for D'riss? Seriously? Did you even bother reading the pages back? Because it looks to me you simply skimmed a lot of posts there, and inno aren't the ones who do that, or should be doing that, so to speak.
I actually got into a pissing contest with D'riss simply because I strongly believed we cornered Hood's Path way too early instead of giving him some rope and getting more information out of him. And that's symping? Go back and read the freaking posts, we were almost at each others throat going on for a while.

Liosan you're my current No 1 suspect as a killer.
The fact that you did not bother to read the posts back with me and D'riss going at each other for a while reaks of scum.
The fact that you voted on D'riss, but then you suddenly remove your vote on grounds that you fully intend on 'not missing anything important' while you managed to miss the whole D'riss-Mockra pissing contest reaks of scum.
Your vote removal screams of someone who is almost set on a D'riss lynch train but doesn't want to bloody its hands early.


My vote stays until further notice.

[D'riss]

Galain, on 06 May 2010 - 08:25 PM, said:

However, I agree with previous posters in that D'riss acted very suspiciously yesterday, and I believe I commented on it then too, so even though your guard most likely didn't affect the outcome of the night that certainly does not exonerate D'riss.

Im not too sure what to make of you galain.
Your play is very smooth and i could easily see you as scum.

Now yesterday, your whole gripe with me was that you thought that myself and mockra were faking a fight to get the attention off of HP!!
Now HP came back inno....
so tell me, how are your "comments" and suspicions about myslef yesterday still valid today, with HP not being a Killer?

This statement you made is for me...really dodgy and rather opportunistic.
You are playing the part of the impartial killer perfectly.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 6 hours remain.

8 players are alive
Ampelas,D'riss,Fener,Galain,Korbas,Liosan,Mockra,Osseric

5 votes to lynch. 4 votes to go to night.

2 votes D'riss (Korbas,Osseric)
1 vote Liosan (Mockra)


Not voted
Ampelas,D'riss,Fener,Galain,Liosan

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 07 May 2010 - 01:10 PM

[Korbas]

Judging by your freak out reaction, D'riss, I'd say we found our meat. I can't think of an inno who would go into so many posts just to try to defend theirselves. That said, I am willing to change my vote and get Liosan out of the way first, however I'm more confident D'riss is a killer than Liosan (but only by a little bit). Liosans last posts have given me a very funny feeling, and all but cleared my suspicion from you, Mockra. Whatever happens, we need a lynch today.

[D'riss]

Korbas, on 07 May 2010 - 12:01 PM, said:

Judging by your freak out reaction, D'riss, I'd say we found our meat. I can't think of an inno who would go into so many posts just to try to defend theirselves. That said, I am willing to change my vote and get Liosan out of the way first, however I'm more confident D'riss is a killer than Liosan (but only by a little bit). Liosans last posts have given me a very funny feeling, and all but cleared my suspicion from you, Mockra. Whatever happens, we need a lynch today.

freak out session?

no sorry i was catching up for most of those posts and im alone for most of my time here.
not my fault other people arent on posting while i post.

[D'riss]

I refuse to vote for any person that korbas has suggested.

Because if he is an inno, he has no idea whats going on.
And if he is scum...well...then he is pushing for the win today.

I say lynch either fener or Osseric

Korbas you continuously make no sense.
I dont see how you can think both myself and liosan are killers he clearly wants to lynch me off.

Im struggling to figure out your motives as they seem all over the place.

[Korbas]

I don't want Fener, Osseric, Mockra, or Galain to be lynched. Have fun getting everyone to agree to lynch one of them, or myself, D'riss.

For my offline comment, I was still trying to find the reason of why it made my suspicious. I got an answer, and thinking about it that answer made a hell of a lot of sense. Revealing so early and without 100% proof could prove to be deadly, but waiting around and lynching another inno/lynching me/not lynching anyone today would just as much if not more deadly.

Yes, I could be scum with a fake reveal in an attempt to throw everyone off. Who would be the other scum, then? I've voted for Galain, Ampelas and Osseric voted for me at one point. Which leaves Liosan who I've voiced suspicions against, and Fener. Up to you guys whether or not to make anything of that.

I asked, not begged, for a heal. If it is a two killer game, I won't even need it after your lynch as I'll be guarding Liosan, so long as my suspicions are correct.

I made a ballsy, quite possibly idiotic move, and will go down as a retarded inno if I'm wrong. However, given Dday we have to take risks, and I'm comfortable with the two accusations I've made.

[Korbas]

Voting and then removing his vote doesn't seem like he clearly wants to lynch you.

[Ampelas]

Really not sure what the right course of action here is. I doubt that we would have a guard in a game with a single killer, and after the fuss that was kicked up in the last game, I doubt a guard could have guarded paired killers. Added to that there's the possibilities of healers or BPs, which to me says either Korbas is confused or lying.

If he's confused, it doesnt clear D'riss; although if he's lying it obviously does. What Korbas is if he's lying, I'm not sure. A symp or a killer could both benefit from fake revealing if they thought they were likely to get lynched, and short of a counter we can't tell if he's lying. Even if Korbas is telling the truth, D'riss could still come up inno.

Which puts us in a bit of a pickle. If we haven't hit a symp yet, this could very well be D-Day, depending on how the NAs play out, so we have to be very careful with how we lynch today. I have to agree with the point that D'riss made - the people who are the most eager to just roll with Korbas's reveal do look pretty scummy, although Osseric did say that D'riss would have been his main suspect anyway. Mockra does raise some good points about Lio, but after yesterday I'm not really sure of him or D'riss, so I'm taking what both of them say with a pinch of salt.

[D'riss]

Korbas, on 07 May 2010 - 12:26 PM, said:

Voting and then removing his vote doesn't seem like he clearly wants to lynch you.

oh come now... dont be rediculous.

Dont get me wrong....will drop a vote on liosan if need be, because i am uncertain of his innocence just as much as any other inno is.
But i refuse to vote for anyone YOU say we must, how do you have any better info than anyone else?... even if you are who you say you are?
You're now trying to control the game and attempting to lead everyone by the nose.

[Path-Shaper]

There will be a weekend timer freeze with todays lynch or time out. Night will happen and I will begin day 5. After that the timer will be stopped, but the game can continue. HOWEVER, if a lynch is reached on the weekend, then night will last until all provisionals have been sent in. If there is a NA not sbmitted, night will continue until I get on Monday morning. At that point if no action was submitted, it will not be counted and night will end with what actions I have received.

Questions?

[D'riss]

Korbas, on 07 May 2010 - 12:25 PM, said:

I don't want Fener, Osseric, Mockra, or Galain to be lynched. Have fun getting everyone to agree to lynch one of them, or myself, D'riss.

Just like that? PI a whole bunch of people?
Throw in a few inno's to the mix!!
All because you guarded me last night?
I call bullshit. This is the worst case of "eat my shit and like it" i have ever seen and i refuse to take a bite

wow...really shit play if you are inno.
No inno in their right minds shoudl have the mindset you have with the info you have...impossible to come to that conclusion unless you are scum.

Korbas, on 07 May 2010 - 12:25 PM, said:

For my offline comment, I was still trying to find the reason of why it made my suspicious. I got an answer, and thinking about it that answer made a hell of a lot of sense. Revealing so early and without 100% proof could prove to be deadly, but waiting around and lynching another inno/lynching me/not lynching anyone today would just as much if not more deadly.

No...revealing early makes your case seem better becasue you did not want to fake reveal as a last resort. And then have everyone turn around and say you did it because you were about to get lynched.
Pre-emptive strike.
Thats the only reason I can see why anyone would want to reveal with no pressure on themselves.
The good play would have been to wait another day. Especially since your evidence is far from 100%
But you refuse to acknowledge that and im getting more and more convinced you have fake revealed.

Korbas, on 07 May 2010 - 12:25 PM, said:

Yes, I could be scum with a fake reveal in an attempt to throw everyone off. Who would be the other scum, then? I've voted for Galain, Ampelas and Osseric voted for me at one point. Which leaves Liosan who I've voiced suspicions against, and Fener. Up to you guys whether or not to make anything of that.

I asked, not begged, for a heal. If it is a two killer game, I won't even need it after your lynch as I'll be guarding Liosan, so long as my suspicions are correct.

I made a ballsy, quite possibly idiotic move, and will go down as a retarded inno if I'm wrong. However, given Dday we have to take risks, and I'm comfortable with the two accusations I've made.

oh please who you voted for means jack shit.
Ever heard of distancing?

[D'riss]

Come now...this is ridiculous.

After the last games fuck up with the Guard that can block all kills from day 1 and the fact it was billed as a M&P.
How can anyone believe that they would have that VERY SAME dynamic in this game?
When this is supposed to be a "real" M&P game? the proper version?
WHY!...tell me why they would do it again Korbas!??
Why would they put it in this game AGAIN after it was the main gripe of the last game?

This was meant to be a "true" M&P...


edit- repeated myself

This post has been edited by D'riss: 07 May 2010 - 12:53 PM

[D'riss]

Another thing...since you are here

How do you go about working out that fener and Osseric are PI?
Can you even explain properly?

Im baffled as to how you could just come to that conclusion with any conviction with a guard on me and no night kill as info?



edit - added underlined

This post has been edited by D'riss: 07 May 2010 - 01:04 PM

[D'riss]

The more io look at this the more pissed off i get...fucking bullshit!!!

Korbas, on 07 May 2010 - 12:25 PM, said:

Have fun getting everyone to agree to lynch one of them, or myself, D'riss.

You are sooo fucking cock sure of yourself now arent you Korbas?
You think that you are immune from lynch and can come swagger in here sneer down your nose at me??!!

You know... if you are a inno guard, i would much rather lose to scum right now by lynching your arrogant ass than lynching some other inno.
And if you are fake revealing, which i really do think is a good possibility, then it would be so fucking sweet to get you lynched after this taunt.
You think you are so safe?....im willing to bet there are some inno's out there with pair of balls who would try this claim!!

Vote Korbas


I cannot beleive any guard would be so cock sure of himself with the info he has.
You are daring myself and everyone else to vote for you? REALLY?
Well stuff you and your challenge....there are some decent players here that maybe....just maybe... can take a chance see and through your bollox.

[D'riss]

and he dissapears...how convenient

[D'riss]

3 anon users
then 2 anons...then one anon.

back to three anons again...?

someones fucking lurking!!!

[Fener]

D, on 07 May 2010 - 07:48 AM, said:

Fener, on 06 May 2010 - 07:52 PM, said:

These three are tied for most suspicious, D'riss, Mockra, Ampelas.

Driss - Even though I have agreed with some of his posts he has continually been mixed in every single pissing contest and has helped to fill the thread with WIFOM


Driss - Even though I have agreed with some of his posts he has continually been mixed in every single pissing contest and has helped to fill the thread with WIFOM

Firstly...if i dont get involved in any arguments (pissing contests) to get info/reacions out of people...then who is going to? ....YOU?
No you are to busy keeping your nose clean.

And i was not the one spreading WIFOM you are not going to turn HP's shit and use that one me...i was the one who condmened HP for using a WIFOM argument.
Yes i gave more wifom argument examples, but that was to simply show HP's arguments to be short sighted and wifom.
I am not sure if you are the one coming up with this shit or if you are just falling for the trap of believing it just because other people SAY it.

Fener, on 06 May 2010 - 07:52 PM, said:

Mockra - A very funny feeling that I get when I read his posts

I get this too.

Fener, on 06 May 2010 - 07:52 PM, said:

Ampelas - Another big supplier of a lot of useless WIFOM.

Yea, but he aint got anything on HP

Fener, on 06 May 2010 - 07:52 PM, said:

Then I would toss Galain in but that is in part due to his hatred of drunken posting.

Galain was the one who drunk posted...i think you've lost the plot a bit mate....


Ive had a feeling about you being scum for a while now.
And your reasoning for you "suspects" are very pedestrian.



edit - tags

Is your feeling that I am scum because I have agreed with you so many times. Strangely enough that is the primary reason that you would be scum. I wish that I had the time necessary to be involved in a pissing contest. Alas those days are behind me.

Your right Ampelas doesn't have anything on HP which is why I pushed for his lynch. Your also right about Galain, HP was the one who was against drunken posts.

As for voting for you I haven't done it yet as I immediately saw the flaw in Korbas's reveal.