[Korbas]

How does me not having access to a computer at the time of the lynch make me suspicious? Your other suspicions are founded, granted this is the second vote I've followed somebody on, but that one has yet to make sense to me.

And what's this about ignoring the fact you have a case? Yes, you do have a case, and I'm not going to deny all my actions have been suspicion free. I'm not going to try and argue something that obviously isn't true.

I guess I just have to hope HP is a meat, otherwise a follow up lynch on me tomorrow looks very likely.

[Hood's Path]

What the hell is wrong with you people? Why do you feel it's appropriate to insult other players in Mafia? That's like a bread-and-butter tactic used by old players here.

It's crass, it does nothing more than stir the pot, and has no place in an argument.

Galain, just because you say I am not responding accurately to your 'attacks' doesn't make them any more true. You know as well as I do that a player that gets fingered for a lynch early in the game will ALWAYS be associated with that coulda-been. It's extremely easy to always point back to there and use that to try and say, "Yeah, he really is probably scummy," but it's absolutely a terrible argument and you know it.

I DO agree that keeping mystery players around is a bad idea. On that grounds, sure, go ahead and waste another day and lynch me. But on the grounds of me being some kind of scum? That's absolute nonsense. I have no defenders in this thread; not a single person has come to my defense. The only reason I haven't been lynched is that everyone seems to think I'm some kind of symp... although the only person they think I could be symping is Korbas. If that's what you think, then you EXEPCT my CF to return "potato" and know that the better action is to lynch Korbas.

Lynching Korbas, is still, IMO, not a good action, but trying to INSULT me for my defense is absolute rubbish.

[Hood's Path]

Now, with all of that said, and the top two suspects to me right now being Osseric and D'riss, I think the obvious question is, "Why isn't D'riss getting more attention?" when several others have voiced support for his lynch. Right behind that question should be, "Why does Osseric get to show up at the end of every train?"

[Hood's Path]

And why do we always have 5-8 lurkers and nobody likes to post? Ugh, talk about frustrating.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 45 minutes remain.

9 players are alive
Ampelas,D'riss,Fener,Galain,Hood's Path,Korbas,Liosan,Mockra,Osseric

5 votes to lynch. 5 votes to go to night.

1 vote D'riss (Hood's Path)
2 votes Korbas (Ampelas, Osseric)
3 votes Hood's Path (Galain, Korbas, Fener)
1 vote Mockra (D'riss)

Not voted
Liosan,Mockra

[Ampelas]

Hood, on 06 May 2010 - 04:28 PM, said:

Ampelas, you have to know how bad your case is. If Korbas and I were really tied together in some way, do you really think I would PI him on day 2 and then continue to indicate how the facts lean toward his innocence? That's absolute nonsense and you aren't doing yourself any favors by pushing it.

If you are voting Korbas right now, IMO, it means you think he wasn't online to change a night kill. It also means you probably think his symp is still alive. It shouldn't mean anything to do with me, because that is seriously bad logic.

Dude, it's your logic that I dont understand and I said so right at the beginning. "I am inno and therefore Korbas cannot be my symp" in no way shape or form equals "this man is PI" and I explained exactly why before. The very fact that you tried to PI him with a deeply flawed train of thought is exactly why I voted him in the first place, and now you continue to defend him. I voted him because I think you are his symp. That's exactly why you would keep trying to make him look innocent. And that's why I havent moved my vote onto you yet, as I'd rather lynch the killer than his symp.

[Galain]

Hood, on 06 May 2010 - 04:33 PM, said:

What the hell is wrong with you people? Why do you feel it's appropriate to insult other players in Mafia? That's like a bread-and-butter tactic used by old players here.

It's crass, it does nothing more than stir the pot, and has no place in an argument.

Galain, just because you say I am not responding accurately to your 'attacks' doesn't make them any more true. You know as well as I do that a player that gets fingered for a lynch early in the game will ALWAYS be associated with that coulda-been. It's extremely easy to always point back to there and use that to try and say, "Yeah, he really is probably scummy," but it's absolutely a terrible argument and you know it.

I DO agree that keeping mystery players around is a bad idea. On that grounds, sure, go ahead and waste another day and lynch me. But on the grounds of me being some kind of scum? That's absolute nonsense. I have no defenders in this thread; not a single person has come to my defense. The only reason I haven't been lynched is that everyone seems to think I'm some kind of symp... although the only person they think I could be symping is Korbas. If that's what you think, then you EXEPCT my CF to return "potato" and know that the better action is to lynch Korbas.

Lynching Korbas, is still, IMO, not a good action, but trying to INSULT me for my defense is absolute rubbish.

[to bolded part] And if that's what I've been doing you would've been absolutely right. However, as this is not the case this is just another attempt by you to make a straw man argument to make it seem like the case against you is weaker than it is.

Also, have you been reading this thread at all? D'riss and Mockra have done nothing but pull attention away from you today and Osseric nodded to your every argument like a sock puppet yesterday. Just because people don't jump up and declare you a PI does not mean there's been no defence of you.

And in my opinion insults are a perfectly acceptable and often quite efficient tactic of this game. Just look at all the reactions it has produced from you.

[Korbas]

Fuck, friends to go to Subway for lunch, might not be around at lynch time.

Peace out everyone.

[Path-Shaper]

Galain, there was already a warning issued for bolding something other than a vote. Please dont do that again. Next person to do so will not have their vote count...Thanks

[Galain]

ah, sorry man. Didn't think of it.

[Hood's Path]

@Galain, then I sincerely hope you are either not playing Spycraft or are killed off early.

And while you can point and cheer about D'riss and Mockra pulling attention away from me, D'riss is voting for me and you know Mockra would be happy to. That's ridiculous logic.

I WILL vote to lynch Korbas if that's what is decided by the rest of the pack, but I feel it is an extremely poor choice for a lynch.

[Hood's Path]

As proof that I am not his symp.

Remove Vote
Vote Korbas

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 34 minutes remain.

9 players are alive
Ampelas,D'riss,Fener,Galain,Hood's Path,Korbas,Liosan,Mockra,Osseric

5 votes to lynch. 5 votes to go to night.


3 votes Korbas (Ampelas, Osseric, Hood's Path)
3 votes Hood's Path (Galain, Korbas, Fener)
1 vote Mockra (D'riss)

Not voted
Liosan,Mockra

[Ampelas]

Korbas, on 06 May 2010 - 04:29 PM, said:

How does me not having access to a computer at the time of the lynch make me suspicious? Your other suspicions are founded, granted this is the second vote I've followed somebody on, but that one has yet to make sense to me.

And what's this about ignoring the fact you have a case? Yes, you do have a case, and I'm not going to deny all my actions have been suspicion free. I'm not going to try and argue something that obviously isn't true.

I guess I just have to hope HP is a meat, otherwise a follow up lynch on me tomorrow looks very likely.

It's suspicious because before Bargy turned up dead he was lynch suspect numero uno for day two. Why would the killers kill someone that would likely give them a day relatively free from pressure? There's three reasons:

One (or more) of the killers wasnt online after Bargy removed his vote and therefore wasnt able to change the kill that had been put on him earlier onto someone else.
The killers messed up and couldn't get the switch onto someone else confirmed in time.
The killers are playing some incredibly sneaky game and trying to frame you and D'riss.

You not being online isnt a closed and shut case that you must be a killer. Shortly after the point is brought up though, HP declares that you have to be PI for reasons I am yet to decipher, which immediately sounded like a symp seeing his master would shortly be under pressure and trying to do something about it.

[Hood's Path]

To lynch Korbas, we're going to need Fener, Liosan, and Mockra to show up and vote/change votes. Otherwise, it will be me.

[Osseric]

I'm Back.


@HP - dude, we are on 24 hour days. I have SET times when I can post. I get into work at a certain time, I leave work at a certain time. Thats when I can post. In a 24 hour game with 0 hour nights... guess what... lynches are gonna be at the same time each day ((give or take an hr) So chill on the "free pass" BS. I post when I can, and using my posting times as an argument when I have been consistant the whole game is pretty bad form. Same with D'riss. Any game I play with him, it's a given, we can't interact, his schedule is completely opposite of mine. he is the same every game, as am I. You just deal with it.

/end rant.

i just skimmed to catch up, gonna go back and address some individual posts.

[Osseric]

ugh, 30 min left and I still don't think that HP is guilty. I guess I would move vote, but I prefer not to as if I don't...he will just be the topic of conversation once again tomorrow.

[Ampelas]

Hood, on 06 May 2010 - 04:49 PM, said:

As proof that I am not his symp.

Remove Vote
Vote Korbas

This I dont know what to make of. If you are as symp then trying to derail your train onto your master is either really ballsy or really stupid. I'm suddenly way less certain on Korbas than what I was ten minutes ago.

[Galain]

@HP - D'riss is voting for Mockra, not you, and I never accused you of being Korbas' symp.

Other than that; cry me a river. Is there pressure on you? Is it awful? Really, I know how annoying it is to receive ongoing pressure as an RI for mistakes I made when I know that I'm innocent and that those mistakes were innocent as well. If it turns out that I was wrong and that you're in fact not a killer, well I can understand your frustration but this oh-woe-is-me nonsense is getting rather tiring.

[Hood's Path]

Another voice of reason o.O

Really hoping Liosan and Mockra show up before the timer expires, or Galain at least shows some flexibility.