[D'riss]

Gamelon....

ts ts ts ts

YOU LYING SCUM!


Taken from the OP SCENE:

Path-Shaper, on 18 April 2010 - 03:19 PM, said:

The primary town roles are Chunyu Qiong and Yang Dajang, Yuan Shao's top general and minister, respectively.
The primary scum roles are Liu Bei and Jian Yong, the heads of the conspiracy.

Your reveal doesn't include any of these names.
So, you aren't a roled inno.
Unless someone can find out a quote or anything said that clarifies that the town has MORE than two roled players,
Gamelon, start making peace with what ever god you believe in, because you are sure as hell on a ride to meet him!

[Karosis]

Hood, on 23 April 2010 - 09:23 AM, said:

crapshit, I have a shit memory.

Liosan's reveal DOES have a name,and it is also not one of the OP names.

Guard/Healer seems equally unbelievable outside that.

Are you BOTH symps who are shoving the game?

You want us to vote Alkend. Liosan wants us to vote Spite. What if both are innocents and we lynch Spite today and then when he comes up inno we lynch Alkend because that's the natural progression. And then we lose.

Game just got complimicatervated.

Path-Shaper, on 18 April 2010 - 03:19 PM, said:

Setup

This is a town vs scum game. All players are members of Emperor Xian's court, and among them are conspirators (the scum) planning to eliminate the Prime Minister Yuan Shao (not a player). The town must lynch the two chief conspirators, Liu Bei and Jian Yong to win. The scum must form a majority (symps included in this count) to win.


The primary town roles are Chunyu Qiong and Yang Dajang, Yuan Shao's top general and minister, respectively.
The primary scum roles are Liu Bei and Jian Yong, the heads of the conspiracy.

The CF will contain the role name, alt and player name.


28 hour days. 0 hour nights.

Liosan, on 21 April 2010 - 04:03 PM, said:

Ok, Reveal and why:

In the first edition of the lynch/night post by PS regarding last night, I died, with my alt/role listed.

I am Chunyu Qiong, and I am Big Pimpen in Ancient China. As far as I am aware, I have no kind of BP, so I assume I got healed last night, thank you. I do have a power which I will not reveal at this time.

Edit: I r gud spellr.

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[Karosis]

Ok, gotta go for a while again, will be back in time to drop a vote, my gut is definitely saying Gam at this point.

[Gamelon]

Karosis, on 23 April 2010 - 09:32 AM, said:

I'm still more inclined to believe Lio is telling the truth. The unfortunate thing is we are now in a situation where lynching Spite will at least tell us whether or not Lio is lying, but that could be exactly the outcome Gam wants.

no lynching spite will not tell you if liosan is lying THATS THE POINT!!
if liosan is telling the truth...he would not know his action was blocked on night 2....dont you see?
So he would be thinking both his guards on spite have worked both nights.
Were in reality they have not.

ok.... ill vote spite then....if he comes up inno then we MUST got for Alkend...ok?

remove vote
VOTE SPITE

[Hood's Path]

Ok everyone, do a collective facepalm. And do it HARD.

Quote

The RotK game is a town v scum game, 1 killer w/ symps and only a few other roles.

This is from the frickin' sign up thread. D'rek says this herself. Go and check. ONE KILLER.

[Gamelon]

Hood, on 23 April 2010 - 09:39 AM, said:

Ok everyone, do a collective facepalm. And do it HARD.

Quote

The RotK game is a town v scum game, 1 killer w/ symps and only a few other roles.

This is from the frickin' sign up thread. D'rek says this herself. Go and check. ONE KILLER.

1 killer?...20 player game?
impossible.

that was most likely the set up originally....but with more players it must have changed.

[Hood's Path]

And I am a retard. Karosis, you're right.

[Hood's Path]

Well... it would explain 2 nights with no kills.

[Gamelon]

The simple fact of what was written in the "three way" winning conditions means there MUST be two killers.

Because if you kill one or the other of the main scum named....the game still continues.

[Karatallid]

Back again...

[D'riss]

And Gamelon, I don't really understand why you would reveal.
Things aren't too complicated really.


Liosan has a very high chance of dying in the next day regardless what. If Spites CF comes back as roled killer, he was right, we go in search for the other one, and Liosan will probably get attacked the following night- at least he IS willing to die though.Since by that time we didn't have any clues of what was going on, and there were no case on anyone, for Liosan to use this as a way to deflect.We had Sorrit on a lynch ready stasis, we could have gone for him anytime we wanted.Now if Spites CF comes back as inno, then pretty much everyone knows Liosan WAS lying.If Tulas Shorne comes in and says that Liosans name and role were what he claims, we have found TWO scums for the price of one.

So you understand, Liosan took a gambit which by that time seems appropriate for a true inno only.If he was scum he would just push further the Sorrit agenda.And if he WAS scum, and Tulas is indeed scum as well, why would they pull a stunt like this? Its quite obvious that if Spites CF comes back as inno, Liosan and Tulas bullshited us, so team town gets to successfully lynch two scum in the next days.And all that to frame Spite? I mean geez, even if they are both symps, and Spite is one of our roled inno (and donkeys can fly, and pigs dont smell, and dwarves are beautifull etc etc) why did Spite make such a frail attempt at the case against him, and then dissapeared again?

[Gamelon]

D, on 23 April 2010 - 09:52 AM, said:

And Gamelon, I don't really understand why you would reveal.
Things aren't too complicated really.

I revealed because there is a chance that liosan is a symp and you all think he is CI and are looking to follow him blindly.
The info i give, from my perspective is pretty important to team inno.

[Gamelon]

D, on 23 April 2010 - 09:52 AM, said:

And Gamelon, I don't really understand why you would reveal.
Things aren't too complicated really.


Now if Spites CF comes back as inno, then pretty much everyone knows Liosan WAS lying.

no no no nooooo.

WHAT DONT YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTAND!! how many times must i say this.
LIOSAN COULD STILL BE TELLING THE TRUTH EVEN IF SPITE DOES COME UP INNO!
Liosan did not know that his guard got blocked on night 2 ...JEEEZ

D, on 23 April 2010 - 09:52 AM, said:

So you understand, Liosan took a gambit which by that time seems appropriate for a true inno only.If he was scum he would just push further the Sorrit agenda.And if he WAS scum, and Tulas is indeed scum as well, why would they pull a stunt like this? Its quite obvious that if Spites CF comes back as inno, Liosan and Tulas bullshited us, so team town gets to successfully lynch two scum in the next days.And all that to frame Spite? I mean geez, even if they are both symps, and Spite is one of our roled inno (and donkeys can fly, and pigs dont smell, and dwarves are beautifull etc etc) why did Spite make such a frail attempt at the case against him, and then dissapeared again?

IF and ONLY IF he is lying and IS a symp.
Then i think he reavealed to get the pressure off of alkend.
Look at how much attention everyone is paying to alkend right now!!!

[Karatallid]

D, on 23 April 2010 - 09:35 AM, said:

Gamelon....

ts ts ts ts

YOU LYING SCUM!


Taken from the OP SCENE:

Path-Shaper, on 18 April 2010 - 03:19 PM, said:

The primary town roles are Chunyu Qiong and Yang Dajang, Yuan Shao's top general and minister, respectively.
The primary scum roles are Liu Bei and Jian Yong, the heads of the conspiracy.

Your reveal doesn't include any of these names.
So, you aren't a roled inno.
Unless someone can find out a quote or anything said that clarifies that the town has MORE than two roled players,
Gamelon, start making peace with what ever god you believe in, because you are sure as hell on a ride to meet him!

Alright D'riss, settle down. It seems unlikely to me that in a game with 21 players, there are only 4 people who have powers. That leaves 17 RI + symps, a ludicrous amount. It makes sense for Liosan to be there, as he had a unique ability. Gam's is just a straight up guard, so not really top dog material like Yang Dajang (great name ), therefore not mentioned.

[Gamelon]

Karatallid, on 23 April 2010 - 10:01 AM, said:

D, on 23 April 2010 - 09:35 AM, said:

Gamelon....

ts ts ts ts

YOU LYING SCUM!


Taken from the OP SCENE:

Path-Shaper, on 18 April 2010 - 03:19 PM, said:

The primary town roles are Chunyu Qiong and Yang Dajang, Yuan Shao's top general and minister, respectively.
The primary scum roles are Liu Bei and Jian Yong, the heads of the conspiracy.

Your reveal doesn't include any of these names.
So, you aren't a roled inno.
Unless someone can find out a quote or anything said that clarifies that the town has MORE than two roled players,
Gamelon, start making peace with what ever god you believe in, because you are sure as hell on a ride to meet him!

Alright D'riss, settle down. It seems unlikely to me that in a game with 21 players, there are only 4 people who have powers. That leaves 17 RI + symps, a ludicrous amount. It makes sense for Liosan to be there, as he had a unique ability. Gam's is just a straight up guard, so not really top dog material like Yang Dajang (great name ), therefore not mentioned.

ermm....yea....PRIMARY roles dude...PRIMARY



edit- placed my answer in tag instead of out

This post has been edited by Gamelon: 23 April 2010 - 10:05 AM

[Karatallid]

Hood, on 23 April 2010 - 09:23 AM, said:

crapshit, I have a shit memory.

Liosan's reveal DOES have a name,and it is also not one of the OP names.

Guard/Healer seems equally unbelievable outside that.

Are you BOTH symps who are shoving the game?

You want us to vote Alkend. Liosan wants us to vote Spite. What if both are innocents and we lynch Spite today and then when he comes up inno we lynch Alkend because that's the natural progression. And then we lose.

Game just got complimicatervated.

We don't lose in two days. We still have a while yet, since there are 15 of us alive.

[Gamelon]

I dont even know why we are arguing...i have voted for spite...lets get his CF and move on.

I think Alkend would be better as the case on Spite is flawed completely, since it revolves around liosans two Guards....yet night two spite could not have been guarded by liosnan.

but watever....

[Gamelon]

Karatallid, on 23 April 2010 - 10:07 AM, said:

Hood, on 23 April 2010 - 09:23 AM, said:

crapshit, I have a shit memory.

Liosan's reveal DOES have a name,and it is also not one of the OP names.

Guard/Healer seems equally unbelievable outside that.

Are you BOTH symps who are shoving the game?

You want us to vote Alkend. Liosan wants us to vote Spite. What if both are innocents and we lynch Spite today and then when he comes up inno we lynch Alkend because that's the natural progression. And then we lose.

Game just got complimicatervated.

We don't lose in two days. We still have a while yet, since there are 15 of us alive.

3 lynches from now is worst case scenario. 6 innos dead
We Still have time.

[Karatallid]

What's the count on Spite's vote?

[Gamelon]

6 votes for spite