[Serc]

So, yeah, crap. This should be interesting.

[Serc]

Remove vote
Vote Rashan

Let's see how this goes.

[Rashan]

That how it gonna be huh. I'll cut ya a deal Serc, you wanna get rid of Sorrit today I'm down with that - we both put our teams into lynching Sorrit for the day and thus we both make it to tomorrow without the worry of a lone assailant and then its all pillows.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4.

35 hours and 59 minutes remaining (We are on a weekend break till around 10ish Monday) You can still lynch and what not but there are no timers for day or night.

11 Players still alive: Alkend, Ampelas, Liosan, Mockra, Rashan, Serc, Silanah, Sorrit, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

1 vote for Sorrit (Mockra)
2 vote for Serc (Rashan, Tennes)
1 vote for Rashan (Serc)
6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Alkend, Ampelas, Liosan, Rashan, Silanah, Sorrit, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

[Mockra]

Anyways.

Please, big boys, let's deal with the loner first.

[Alkend]

Wow just a reveal fest at the moment isn't it.

I think if we have found out who the 4th faction is in Sorritt then we have to lynch them. If we lynch Rashan and Sorritt kills Serc over night then Sorritt has won as all 3 leaders are dead, or vice versa. Especially if Sorritt has the power of the leaders, and can ignore Guard or Heals, then we can't stop him.


So,
Vote Sorritt

[Mockra]

By the way, Rashan, you kinda botched your reveal.

You say to attacked Sorrit last night and it failed. But last night was night 3, "target" night.

You're off by one night, care to explain?

[Sorrit]

<tape clicks on>


Good morning Malazan Mafia members. I'd like to play a little game.

If you wish to lynch me, go ahead, I am at your mercy.

However, followers of Freddy - if Serc is indeed your leader, I would recommend you rethink this plan. Your leader has no BP, and will likely face NA's with extreme prejudice.

The chances that Rashan is Pinhead are poor. If he indeed attacked me last night, then he is not a leader since last night was a targeting night. If you focus your ire on him, you will be taken for fools.


Followers of Pinhead, the leadership claims of Serc are on equally shaky grounds. If Galain targeted Serc on night 2 and distracted him, why were there 2 kills? With two leaders focusing on each other, there should have been only one. And subsequently there was no day kill the following day.

If you lynch me today, while you are attempting to kill the opposing teams leader tonight you may just come up empty.

The odds are, very likely one or possibly both Serc and Rashan are lying to cover for their true leaders.

You know where I am. I cannot hide any longer. You can lynch or NK me at your leisure. It is highly doubtful that both leaders die over today and tonight, so I can't magically win. Especially if either or both have their BP's still.

What some of you have said is true - that my chances of winning are almost nothing. Outed either by last standing leaders or finders, what chance have I to win?

The truth is I have something I can offer those who survive the death of their leader. This I have as the agent of fairness. I will explain in time, which I do not have now.

Lynch me now and perhaps leave your leader open to attack with no idea where to send retribution? Or attempt to remove the immediate threat of your leader's death and gain useful information.

The choice is yours.

<tape clicks off>


Vote Serc


I know I'm not an 80's horror villain, but this role actually makes sense as handoff from old to new. Scream queens never existed in Hellraiser movies anyways. Anyways, I'm supposed to be doing something else right now, not writing a big reveal on mafia so I have to leave or risk being yelled at. I'll be back in 8 hours or so.

[Sorrit]

remove vote

better you settle this yoruselves

[Ampelas]

Interesting indeed. Right now I'm not sure whether it's better to get rid of Serc or get rid of Sorrit. I can understand both sides of the argument.

Right now I'm leaning towards Serc, simply because I still think there are two leaders left in this game and Sorrit would be simple to take care of tomorrow.

[Ampelas]

vote Serc

It seems likely that the two players who are certain that Sorrit should go first (Mockra and Alkend) are probably just desperate to save their leader, so I don't particularly trust their reasoning.

I'll be on in bits and bobs today.

[Mockra]

Ampelas, on 11 April 2010 - 08:47 AM, said:

Interesting indeed. Right now I'm not sure whether it's better to get rid of Serc or get rid of Sorrit. I can understand both sides of the argument.

Right now I'm leaning towards Serc, simply because I still think there are two leaders left in this game and Sorrit would be simple to take care of tomorrow.

Derrr, there are two leaders left indeed, but if you lynch one there will be only one. Kill one today theyre might not be a tomorrow.

I understand, Mr Jason-night-2-find, that you don't have much to lose at this point, but if you play for a Sorrit win (on his ridiculus promise he might help you win?) I don't understand why you don't do this by sticking it to the Pinheads first, who are after all responsible for decimating your team.

[Mockra]

Strange position that I have seen before in mafia, where game theory takes the back seat to the lolz and the "haha let's try this".

Sadly, I noticed that arguments don't help at this point, so I hope you'll understand that we have nothing to lose by leaving the leader-slapping to tomorrow (except Sorrit, that is), no matter what others say.

[Mockra]

And those who say we're just trying to save our leader should wonder what exactly we can do tomorrow to "save" him again.

It's a simple question of playing not to lose now, and then worry about playing to win later.

[Ampelas]

Mockra, on 11 April 2010 - 09:11 AM, said:

I don't understand why you don't do this by sticking it to the Pinheads first, who are after all responsible for decimating your team.

I find this quite funny. Do you honestly believe that people would play the game according to some notion of seeking revenge?

Freddy's have a simple gameplan at this point in time: don't let Freddy get lynched. Non-Freddies have a tougher choice, because there are two possibilities open to them, both of which they stand to benefit from.

It may even be the case that the Freddies offered up one of their team for a sacrifice (i.e. Sorrit), who then played along. Who knows.

I am still open to discussion, but forgive me if I don't really pay much attention to what Serc and Mockra say today.

[Mockra]

Ampelas, on 11 April 2010 - 09:21 AM, said:

It may even be the case that the Freddies offered up one of their team for a sacrifice (i.e. Sorrit), who then played along. Who knows.

Yes, before doing that we asked the mods to not show Sorrit' CF after the lynch and they accepted.

Nice blokes, them are.

[Ampelas]

Oh, the sarcasm, it burnssssssssssss!

Just putting stuff out there, mate. I know you only want people to think about one thing and one thing only, but meh.

[Serc]

Right. Let's kill Sorrit tonight. The logic of hitting the loner now makes sense; were we not going for that from the very beginning?
Why change, unless you're greedy for the kill?

Remove vote
Vote Sorrit


That's all I've got to say.

For the record, doesn't the guy from Saw drug you and hook you up to some crazy mutilation machine?
Sounds BP avoiding...

[Mockra]

And in any case, I was not calling to your "sense of revenge" to advocate a Rashan lynch. You know what I advocate today.

I was more annoyed at the injustice, since the Pinheads have quite an advantage. Rashan is obviously not the true leader, his reveal has a hole and Tennes' post where he votes like him is ludicrously fake.

When I made my selection for last night's choice, I made a full re-read. I had Sorrit as a most probable loner, and Tellan as a most probable Pinhead, something I will gleefully investigate tonight.

[Telas]

Looks like we've had some activity.

Catching up...