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10 things every American should know about Europe (and probably does'nt)

#41 User is offline   Gothos 

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Posted 03 April 2010 - 09:20 PM

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8. On the other hand, you DID pretty much win WW2. It started in 1939 however, not 1941.


This advice, which is understandable coming from an aussie, is completely wrong and will get you killed.
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Posted 03 April 2010 - 09:26 PM

1. Sweden is NOT Switzerland. Sweden is NOT known for its watches and chocolate (though i do like swedish chocolate)

please get this right, it annoys me so much when people for some reason mix them up

Sweden is in Scandinavia. The NORTH! VIKINGS! Hot blonde chicks!

Switzerland is in Central Europe. South of Germany! The Alps! Watches! Banks!

completely different things
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Posted 03 April 2010 - 09:36 PM

View PostGothos, on 03 April 2010 - 09:20 PM, said:

View PostSombra, on 03 April 2010 - 09:15 PM, said:

8. On the other hand, you DID pretty much win WW2. It started in 1939 however, not 1941.


This advice, which is understandable coming from an aussie, is completely wrong and will get you killed.


I include the Asia/Pacific war in "World" War 2, which many Europeans seem to forget. :)
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Posted 03 April 2010 - 09:39 PM

the way you put it there it would seem like you suggested americans won single-handedly :)
I'll take this space to remind you that the soviets took on the great lot of both japanese and german land armies, in Europe and Manchuria. So, really, americans took a large part in winning WW2, but they didn't win it.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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Posted 03 April 2010 - 09:51 PM

View PostGothos, on 03 April 2010 - 09:39 PM, said:

the way you put it there it would seem like you suggested americans won single-handedly :)
I'll take this space to remind you that the soviets took on the great lot of both japanese and german land armies, in Europe and Manchuria. So, really, americans took a large part in winning WW2, but they didn't win it.


Which is why I said "pretty much". If the Yanks weren't in it, we would have lost. It's a bitter pill to swallow, but that's it.

On a re-read I can see how you could have had that impression. This is not what I intended. Perhaps a better term would have been "the decisive factor", or somesuch.

And the vast, vast part of Japanese war power was destroyed in the Pacific theatre. Either straight up, or as hastily diverted reinforcements from other parts - like Manchuria and Thailand-Burma.

The Soviets did get some nice northern Japanese islands out of the gig though. Which they have yet to return. *Shrug* oh well, spoils of war and all that.
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Posted 03 April 2010 - 10:13 PM

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7. You did not win WW1 - you just turned up in time for the celebrations after everyone else had done the work.


Believe me, 100,000 american soldiers and 700,000 citizens at home would have been glad if we hadn't shown up at all. Damn, Wilson was such a little shitfuck.
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Posted 03 April 2010 - 10:28 PM

You could always provide fun information such as Kalingrad being completely seperated from Russia by the Baltic countries.
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Posted 03 April 2010 - 11:37 PM

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On the other hand, you DID pretty much win WW2. It started in 1939 however, not 1941.


In terms of Europe...

I would argue WW2 was won on the eastern front, and that's why the russians freaked the United States so much after the war. What The US did amazingly well was move so damn quick through the western front. I just hate seeing the Eastern front downplayed and credit should be due on side that churned up 80% of German's resources. The Air Attack's were the most amazing thing about that war that US accomplished. Not try to downplay anything that happened of course.

Both sides accomplished a ton, but Russia has to be given its due.

Japan was a different story imo.

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Posted 03 April 2010 - 11:37 PM

View PostJusentantaka, on 03 April 2010 - 05:50 PM, said:

Ooooh, here's a thing that I've had bothering me (slightly) for about twenty years now: Tips & gratuity. Over here we have this nice flat 15 % rule and excess is always welcome, yet it seems to me each country in europe has its own special rule. So what are they in your corners? And should a tourist exceed them or just go with the regular local amounts?

We had a great ongoing flamewar about this for a while. Good fun.

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Posted 04 April 2010 - 02:54 AM

Hm, let's try it:

1. Bavaria is just 1 of 16 federal states of Germany.

2. Most of the Germans don't wear leather clothes or funny heads and haven't build a cuckoo's clock in their whole life.

3. Football is important, everywhere, everytime for almost everyone.

4. If you're in a village and see more political party candidates than inhabitants, you're probably in Italy.

5. If you want people in Paris to talk to you in English, admit that you're from Germany. As soon as they realize you're not British almost everyone is able to speak english...strange, but true.

6. If you ever work in a foreign european country, get unemployed and move back into your european homecountry, you have to apply for unemployment money in your prior work country with form E303, not in your homecountry with form E301, unless you worked in your homecountry aswell within the last 2 years. True story, important lesson here...

7. Germany, Austria, the Czech Republic, England, Ireland, Belgium and Holland are your Go to countries for beer.

8. France, Italy, Portugal and Spain are your Go to countries for wine.

9. Scotland, Finland, Poland and Greece are your Go to countries for shots.

10. And if you're feeling you're probably overcharged for a drink, you might be in Sweden, Norway or Paris.

11. Apt has to decide, if Demark is considered under 7, 8, 9 or 10. :)
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Posted 04 April 2010 - 03:01 AM

Just a point of clarification: Germany is best known for two things in Americaland, amongst the masses. Those are: 1. Warfare; 2. Cars. Various meats and beer drinking could fill the rest up to nigh on infinity before you approached cuckoo clocks.
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Posted 04 April 2010 - 03:03 AM

I'm pretty sure the clock thing is the swiss... and all those crap cop shows about hiding money in a swiss bank account keep us well aware it is actually not a part of germany.
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Posted 04 April 2010 - 03:04 AM

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Just a point of clarification: Germany is best known for two things in Americaland, amongst the masses. Those are: 1. Warfare; 2. Cars. Various meats and beer drinking could fill the rest up to nigh on infinity before you approached cuckoo clocks.

Also, music. My entire knowledge of German history comes from music history. Germany is known for Vienna. And yes, I know it's not in Germany.

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Posted 04 April 2010 - 03:36 AM

Germany is sausages and beer.


And there are only 2 types of cars in this world.

Mercedes Benz

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Posted 04 April 2010 - 03:55 AM

Reagradless of where you dine out in Europe or North America, the odds are your food is being made and cooked by South East Asians..

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Posted 04 April 2010 - 06:41 AM

Um...in North American it's mostly S. Americans, not S. Asians.
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Posted 04 April 2010 - 08:42 AM

Slovakia vs. Slovenia proof will be delivered when Im on normal net connection, not GPRS...:)
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Posted 04 April 2010 - 12:47 PM

View PostShinrei, on 04 April 2010 - 06:41 AM, said:

Um...in North American it's mostly S. Americans, not S. Asians.


You're underestimating the Sri Lankan connection. Cornerstone of the culinary industry.
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Posted 04 April 2010 - 02:03 PM

Don't exclude Poland from the beer belt. Don't exclude the Czech Republic from the vodka belt. It's where the worlds mix.
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Posted 04 April 2010 - 04:21 PM

Of course Poland is excluded from the beer belt. Sure we make a lot of good beer in Norway too, but I'd never argue that we in any way compare to the Czech Republic or Germany.
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