[Ruse]

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:03 PM, said:

Serc, on 22 March 2010 - 01:56 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 12:52 PM, said:

ooh an uninitiated Other - bet ya that's an RI and he didn't even know he was said thing. And that uninitiated Others can be whatever level and will be that level when recruited.

Wow dude, way to prove you started the game roled.

vote Anthras

since a roled player has a decent chance at being the night watch recruiter.

Wow dude, way to jump on the first thing you can find to use after that NA result.

Face it, yesterday everyone was convinced that Kalse was an unrecruited Dark Other because of his level, and I clearly said before that I thought that was wrong and that we didn't increase in level at all, but rather just were certain levels before ever being recruited. Now we get the death of an uninitiated other (in other words not part of the watches or inquisition) and it's not level 7, it's level 6. This is an affirmation of what I was proposing yesterday. And that was based entirely on the magic system of the books. So how does that show I'm roled, serc?

I thought the reason people (me included) were thinking he was a recruit was that the people starting in a faction were liable to be stronger people in the watches rather than weaker members, so as a level 5 is relatively weak it stood to reason that he was unlikely to be one of the original members.

[D'riss]

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:03 PM, said:

So how does that show I'm roled, serc?

You said 'bet ya that's an RI'. Bet ya. If you were an RI that statement wouldn't make sense, since you'd know what RIs are called.

[Anthras]

D, on 22 March 2010 - 02:07 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:03 PM, said:

So how does that show I'm roled, serc?

You said 'bet ya that's an RI'. Bet ya. If you were an RI that statement wouldn't make sense, since you'd know what RIs are called.

And thus we know that you *aren't* an RI because if *you* were an RI you'd know that RI's know nothing of these "Uninitiated Others". All we know are that we are 'RI'.

[Anthras]

Ruse, on 22 March 2010 - 02:07 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:03 PM, said:

Serc, on 22 March 2010 - 01:56 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 12:52 PM, said:

ooh an uninitiated Other - bet ya that's an RI and he didn't even know he was said thing. And that uninitiated Others can be whatever level and will be that level when recruited.

Wow dude, way to prove you started the game roled.

vote Anthras

since a roled player has a decent chance at being the night watch recruiter.

Wow dude, way to jump on the first thing you can find to use after that NA result.

Face it, yesterday everyone was convinced that Kalse was an unrecruited Dark Other because of his level, and I clearly said before that I thought that was wrong and that we didn't increase in level at all, but rather just were certain levels before ever being recruited. Now we get the death of an uninitiated other (in other words not part of the watches or inquisition) and it's not level 7, it's level 6. This is an affirmation of what I was proposing yesterday. And that was based entirely on the magic system of the books. So how does that show I'm roled, serc?

I thought the reason people (me included) were thinking he was a recruit was that the people starting in a faction were liable to be stronger people in the watches rather than weaker members, so as a level 5 is relatively weak it stood to reason that he was unlikely to be one of the original members.

Well if that's what you were thinking you a} didn't make it very clear that that was such, and b} were being willfully ignorant of a wide range of possibilities. Why would you assume stronger roles would start in-faction? If both factions are equally capable of recruiting it's equally balanced no matter if the best roles are already in the factions or waiting in the pool of RIs.

[Ruse]

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:11 PM, said:

D, on 22 March 2010 - 02:07 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:03 PM, said:

So how does that show I'm roled, serc?

You said 'bet ya that's an RI'. Bet ya. If you were an RI that statement wouldn't make sense, since you'd know what RIs are called.

And thus we know that you *aren't* an RI because if *you* were an RI you'd know that RI's know nothing of these "Uninitiated Others". All we know are that we are 'RI'.

oooh so close and yet so far.

[Ruse]

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:13 PM, said:

Ruse, on 22 March 2010 - 02:07 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:03 PM, said:

Serc, on 22 March 2010 - 01:56 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 12:52 PM, said:

ooh an uninitiated Other - bet ya that's an RI and he didn't even know he was said thing. And that uninitiated Others can be whatever level and will be that level when recruited.

Wow dude, way to prove you started the game roled.

vote Anthras

since a roled player has a decent chance at being the night watch recruiter.

Wow dude, way to jump on the first thing you can find to use after that NA result.

Face it, yesterday everyone was convinced that Kalse was an unrecruited Dark Other because of his level, and I clearly said before that I thought that was wrong and that we didn't increase in level at all, but rather just were certain levels before ever being recruited. Now we get the death of an uninitiated other (in other words not part of the watches or inquisition) and it's not level 7, it's level 6. This is an affirmation of what I was proposing yesterday. And that was based entirely on the magic system of the books. So how does that show I'm roled, serc?

I thought the reason people (me included) were thinking he was a recruit was that the people starting in a faction were liable to be stronger people in the watches rather than weaker members, so as a level 5 is relatively weak it stood to reason that he was unlikely to be one of the original members.

Well if that's what you were thinking you a} didn't make it very clear that that was such, and b} were being willfully ignorant of a wide range of possibilities. Why would you assume stronger roles would start in-faction? If both factions are equally capable of recruiting it's equally balanced no matter if the best roles are already in the factions or waiting in the pool of RIs.

Im pretty sure i stated basically that exact thing yesterday.

[D'riss]

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:11 PM, said:

D, on 22 March 2010 - 02:07 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:03 PM, said:

So how does that show I'm roled, serc?

You said 'bet ya that's an RI'. Bet ya. If you were an RI that statement wouldn't make sense, since you'd know what RIs are called.

And thus we know that you *aren't* an RI because if *you* were an RI you'd know that RI's know nothing of these "Uninitiated Others". All we know are that we are 'RI'.

Do we? Interesting. Then I don't know how I knew the term 'Uninitiated Other' existed before reading it a little while ago.

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:13 PM, said:

Ruse, on 22 March 2010 - 02:07 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:03 PM, said:

Serc, on 22 March 2010 - 01:56 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 12:52 PM, said:

ooh an uninitiated Other - bet ya that's an RI and he didn't even know he was said thing. And that uninitiated Others can be whatever level and will be that level when recruited.

Wow dude, way to prove you started the game roled.

vote Anthras

since a roled player has a decent chance at being the night watch recruiter.

Wow dude, way to jump on the first thing you can find to use after that NA result.

Face it, yesterday everyone was convinced that Kalse was an unrecruited Dark Other because of his level, and I clearly said before that I thought that was wrong and that we didn't increase in level at all, but rather just were certain levels before ever being recruited. Now we get the death of an uninitiated other (in other words not part of the watches or inquisition) and it's not level 7, it's level 6. This is an affirmation of what I was proposing yesterday. And that was based entirely on the magic system of the books. So how does that show I'm roled, serc?

I thought the reason people (me included) were thinking he was a recruit was that the people starting in a faction were liable to be stronger people in the watches rather than weaker members, so as a level 5 is relatively weak it stood to reason that he was unlikely to be one of the original members.

Well if that's what you were thinking you a} didn't make it very clear that that was such, and b} were being willfully ignorant of a wide range of possibilities. Why would you assume stronger roles would start in-faction? If both factions are equally capable of recruiting it's equally balanced no matter if the best roles are already in the factions or waiting in the pool of RIs.

Why would you assume stronger roles would start out-of-faction? In-faction starting power roles are a much more likely scenario.

[Anthras]

D, on 22 March 2010 - 02:18 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:11 PM, said:

D, on 22 March 2010 - 02:07 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:03 PM, said:

So how does that show I'm roled, serc?

You said 'bet ya that's an RI'. Bet ya. If you were an RI that statement wouldn't make sense, since you'd know what RIs are called.

And thus we know that you *aren't* an RI because if *you* were an RI you'd know that RI's know nothing of these "Uninitiated Others". All we know are that we are 'RI'.

Do we? Interesting. Then I don't know how I knew the term 'Uninitiated Other' existed before reading it a little while ago.

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:13 PM, said:

Ruse, on 22 March 2010 - 02:07 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:03 PM, said:

Serc, on 22 March 2010 - 01:56 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 12:52 PM, said:

ooh an uninitiated Other - bet ya that's an RI and he didn't even know he was said thing. And that uninitiated Others can be whatever level and will be that level when recruited.

Wow dude, way to prove you started the game roled.

vote Anthras

since a roled player has a decent chance at being the night watch recruiter.

Wow dude, way to jump on the first thing you can find to use after that NA result.

Face it, yesterday everyone was convinced that Kalse was an unrecruited Dark Other because of his level, and I clearly said before that I thought that was wrong and that we didn't increase in level at all, but rather just were certain levels before ever being recruited. Now we get the death of an uninitiated other (in other words not part of the watches or inquisition) and it's not level 7, it's level 6. This is an affirmation of what I was proposing yesterday. And that was based entirely on the magic system of the books. So how does that show I'm roled, serc?

I thought the reason people (me included) were thinking he was a recruit was that the people starting in a faction were liable to be stronger people in the watches rather than weaker members, so as a level 5 is relatively weak it stood to reason that he was unlikely to be one of the original members.

Well if that's what you were thinking you a} didn't make it very clear that that was such, and b} were being willfully ignorant of a wide range of possibilities. Why would you assume stronger roles would start in-faction? If both factions are equally capable of recruiting it's equally balanced no matter if the best roles are already in the factions or waiting in the pool of RIs.

Why would you assume stronger roles would start out-of-faction? In-faction starting power roles are a much more likely scenario.

And your basis for this sooo strong conviction is?

[Serc]

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:11 PM, said:

D, on 22 March 2010 - 02:07 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:03 PM, said:

So how does that show I'm roled, serc?

You said 'bet ya that's an RI'. Bet ya. If you were an RI that statement wouldn't make sense, since you'd know what RIs are called.

And thus we know that you *aren't* an RI because if *you* were an RI you'd know that RI's know nothing of these "Uninitiated Others". All we know are that we are 'RI'.

Lol dude, keep digging that hole...

[Anthras]

*crickets chirping*

[Gamelon]

Nice to see that you have kept up with what you were doing yesterday Anthras.

Vote Anthras

[D'riss]

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:20 PM, said:

D, on 22 March 2010 - 02:18 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:11 PM, said:

D, on 22 March 2010 - 02:07 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:03 PM, said:

So how does that show I'm roled, serc?

You said 'bet ya that's an RI'. Bet ya. If you were an RI that statement wouldn't make sense, since you'd know what RIs are called.

And thus we know that you *aren't* an RI because if *you* were an RI you'd know that RI's know nothing of these "Uninitiated Others". All we know are that we are 'RI'.

Do we? Interesting. Then I don't know how I knew the term 'Uninitiated Other' existed before reading it a little while ago.

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:13 PM, said:

Ruse, on 22 March 2010 - 02:07 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:03 PM, said:

Serc, on 22 March 2010 - 01:56 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 12:52 PM, said:

ooh an uninitiated Other - bet ya that's an RI and he didn't even know he was said thing. And that uninitiated Others can be whatever level and will be that level when recruited.

Wow dude, way to prove you started the game roled.

vote Anthras

since a roled player has a decent chance at being the night watch recruiter.

Wow dude, way to jump on the first thing you can find to use after that NA result.

Face it, yesterday everyone was convinced that Kalse was an unrecruited Dark Other because of his level, and I clearly said before that I thought that was wrong and that we didn't increase in level at all, but rather just were certain levels before ever being recruited. Now we get the death of an uninitiated other (in other words not part of the watches or inquisition) and it's not level 7, it's level 6. This is an affirmation of what I was proposing yesterday. And that was based entirely on the magic system of the books. So how does that show I'm roled, serc?

I thought the reason people (me included) were thinking he was a recruit was that the people starting in a faction were liable to be stronger people in the watches rather than weaker members, so as a level 5 is relatively weak it stood to reason that he was unlikely to be one of the original members.

Well if that's what you were thinking you a} didn't make it very clear that that was such, and b} were being willfully ignorant of a wide range of possibilities. Why would you assume stronger roles would start in-faction? If both factions are equally capable of recruiting it's equally balanced no matter if the best roles are already in the factions or waiting in the pool of RIs.

Why would you assume stronger roles would start out-of-faction? In-faction starting power roles are a much more likely scenario.

And your basis for this sooo strong conviction is?

Presumably you have a leader and a recruiter. If you recruit someone it's much more logical that said recruit has a weaker role than the leader or recruiter, since they are leaders of the Watch and the recruit is just some random.

[Ruse]

i think that some of the recruits are likely to be strong, this would fit with the story line. My thinking is that any of the people who start in a faction are unlikely to be its weakest members.

[Anthras]

D, on 22 March 2010 - 02:35 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:20 PM, said:

D, on 22 March 2010 - 02:18 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:11 PM, said:

D, on 22 March 2010 - 02:07 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:03 PM, said:

So how does that show I'm roled, serc?

You said 'bet ya that's an RI'. Bet ya. If you were an RI that statement wouldn't make sense, since you'd know what RIs are called.

And thus we know that you *aren't* an RI because if *you* were an RI you'd know that RI's know nothing of these "Uninitiated Others". All we know are that we are 'RI'.

Do we? Interesting. Then I don't know how I knew the term 'Uninitiated Other' existed before reading it a little while ago.

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:13 PM, said:

Ruse, on 22 March 2010 - 02:07 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:03 PM, said:

Serc, on 22 March 2010 - 01:56 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 12:52 PM, said:

ooh an uninitiated Other - bet ya that's an RI and he didn't even know he was said thing. And that uninitiated Others can be whatever level and will be that level when recruited.

Wow dude, way to prove you started the game roled.

vote Anthras

since a roled player has a decent chance at being the night watch recruiter.

Wow dude, way to jump on the first thing you can find to use after that NA result.

Face it, yesterday everyone was convinced that Kalse was an unrecruited Dark Other because of his level, and I clearly said before that I thought that was wrong and that we didn't increase in level at all, but rather just were certain levels before ever being recruited. Now we get the death of an uninitiated other (in other words not part of the watches or inquisition) and it's not level 7, it's level 6. This is an affirmation of what I was proposing yesterday. And that was based entirely on the magic system of the books. So how does that show I'm roled, serc?

I thought the reason people (me included) were thinking he was a recruit was that the people starting in a faction were liable to be stronger people in the watches rather than weaker members, so as a level 5 is relatively weak it stood to reason that he was unlikely to be one of the original members.

Well if that's what you were thinking you a} didn't make it very clear that that was such, and b} were being willfully ignorant of a wide range of possibilities. Why would you assume stronger roles would start in-faction? If both factions are equally capable of recruiting it's equally balanced no matter if the best roles are already in the factions or waiting in the pool of RIs.

Why would you assume stronger roles would start out-of-faction? In-faction starting power roles are a much more likely scenario.

And your basis for this sooo strong conviction is?

Presumably you have a leader and a recruiter. If you recruit someone it's much more logical that said recruit has a weaker role than the leader or recruiter, since they are leaders of the Watch and the recruit is just some random.

Bullshit. In a game that is 2 small factions trying to recruit from a large pool of RIs, there is no role more powerful than the recruiter which clearly the cults already have. Therefore it makes just as much sense for the killers, guards, finders, healers and FM-Jester-Infinite-BPs to be in the RI pool waiting to be recruited. Especially when the third inquisitor faction has to keep the balance until DAY 10. Makes a helluva lot mroe sense when the killers can't be killing right on night 1 because they have to be recruited first.

[D'riss]

Ruse, on 22 March 2010 - 02:36 PM, said:

i think that some of the recruits are likely to be strong, this would fit with the story line. My thinking is that any of the people who start in a faction are unlikely to be its weakest members.

Oh, well I know nothing about the story. How do you think it would work though? RIs with different starting levels? That doesn't sound too balanced. Recruiter's level determines recruit's level? Could be. Or set roles with set levels that recruits step into?

[Ruse]

D, on 22 March 2010 - 02:42 PM, said:

Ruse, on 22 March 2010 - 02:36 PM, said:

i think that some of the recruits are likely to be strong, this would fit with the story line. My thinking is that any of the people who start in a faction are unlikely to be its weakest members.

Oh, well I know nothing about the story. How do you think it would work though? RIs with different starting levels? That doesn't sound too balanced. Recruiter's level determines recruit's level? Could be. Or set roles with set levels that recruits step into?

RI's with different starting levels would make the most sense book wise. The Recruiters level shouldnt determine anything aside from faction as every person has an equal possibility of being light or dark and all the recruiter does is give them a nudge one way basically.

[Shadow]

Hoo boy, am I glad I am not the only person who went slack-jawed at Anthras's little comment today.

[Osseric]

I'l be here off and on for most of the next 7 hrs. Really busy though. Not sure what to make of the Anthras comment. It sure doesn't sound like he's an RI... but the speed of the train, and the lack of defense is a little disturbing.

At this point, I am going to vote him. but with so much time left in the day, I don't want to leave him at L-2 just yet. before I leave today I will drop a vote though if nothing else comes to light.

[Fener]

vote anthras

From phone...discussing inno roles is. Bad. Especially when u don't have said role

[Fener]

Fener is helpful. ..plus I get the feeling. That inquisitors find out role before deciding whether or not to let the lynch go through