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#1 User is offline   The Tyrant Lizard 

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 11:05 AM

In light of Shin's weapon stash topic I got to thinking how folk would survive a zombie apocolypse. For the sack of argument I'd say they were the fast running zombies... mainly because I cant see how the slow ones would kill anyone apart from wheelchair bound old people. And lets also say its a global outbreak, so there's nowhere to run.

What would you do?
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 11:44 AM

There's a shopping centre near my girlfriend's that has a bottle store, a bicycle store and a chainsaw store. It's a running joke that if there's ever a zombie outbreak we'll meet up there since there's weapons, transport and a whole lot of dutch courage :p

The thing about zombies is they have to be just efficient enough to catch you, but not efficient enough to kill you. If they're too slow, they'll just get killed without infecting people, if they're too deadly they'll just kill everyone and not make any more zombies.
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 11:49 AM

It depends on a number of things.

Are these undead, decomposing zombies? Or are they the mutant zombie kind that are still alive? Are they fast or slow?

How great are their perception? Good or bad hearing, smell, sight? Do they have that silly uncanny hollywood ability to always find the survivors?

Am I alone, in a small group or are there organized groups of survivors?

Assuming I had fair warning and time, when news articles started hitting the stands and footage of walking dead appeared on the internet, I would start out with emptying my kitchen and tool box into a couple of bags, steal a car and head out into the country side along with a radio and some cans of gas. After the first week of idiots being consumed in the cities, I'd towards a smaller city.

Now the next part is assuming that I'm not fighting the mutant, super strong, super fast, nearly omnipotent type of zombie.

I know Slagelse, a city some 90 miles from Copenhagen has a military facility, a policestation and a huge Walmart type place at the edge of town. Assuming that everyone has been overrun, I'd start out by sneaking into the police station or military facility.

If I was fighting fast zombies I'd don any kind of protective armor possible. Fast zombies can not be outrun and it is going to get physical in the end, I'd want layers of strong material protecting my soft bits. If it was slow zombies I'd go lighter but still pick out some head gear and vests. Then I'd try to fill a truck with various equipment, automatic weapons and shotguns. Screw pistols if the zombies are coming close enough that you need a pistols, you might as well be getting your melee weapons ready. Lots of ammunition, like hundreds of kilos worth. Pick out other stuff like lights, smoke canisters, night sight, grenades, radios, etc.

Next stop is supermarket. I'd fill the truck with a ton of canned food - fruits, meats, vegetables. Lots of drinking water as well. basically I'd raid the store for anything essential for my comfort the next couple of months.

Then I'd head for the sea. There's a bunch of harbor towns some 10-20 miles from Slagelse. There I'd pick the biggest boat possible. Preferably a sail boat with a big motor on it, I'd fill it with provisions and head out to sea. I'd stay a good mile off the coast and just wait. If the zombies didn't decompose or die off after a while I'd make raids into the country side for provisions and if I was desperate the cities.

Now the above is based on the idea that I am alone.

If we were a whole team I'd vote for doing the above, only stealing a whole ferry or cruise liner if we were so lucky.
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 11:51 AM

To be honest, in Japan I'd be totally ****ed because of the population density. If we're assuming fast zombies combined with a fast gestation of the zombie virus to create new zombies, the urban places would be overrun in no time. Especially with a primarily unarmed populace (no/few guns here). My only hope would be that I was visiting the in-laws in the country at time of the outbreak.

If I was at home, my apartment would be relatively defensible. Here's what I'd do:

1) Fill the bathtub and as many receptacles with water as possible. You never know when the water might not work anymore, and I have a water purifier.

2) Eat food that will spoil quickest once the power is out. My wife believes in keeping dry/canned goods stocks, plus we have an earthquake kit, so were' supplied with emergency rations and things like flashlights and first aid kit. We could last a while as long as we have the water.

3) The couch and maybe some other random furniture would be shoved down the stairway (we have a 2nd floor apartment with first floor front door.) The couch would be used to block/slow down any invaders. All curtains would be closed, and no lights allowed after dark.

4) I'd take to wearing my duster, which is long and made of tough canvas. In a fight, it's as close to armor as anything I have and should be pretty hard to bite through.

5) Weapon-wise, this apartment isn't good. My shinken isn't here, so weapons on hand are only some knives and my bokken. Even my bo-staff is at the inlaws (although that wouldn't be very good for inside fighting anyways, "maybe" useful for poking zombies back at the stair barrier.) In close quarters fighting though, the knives might be best anyways, and I'm sure my wife could handle that much.

6) The fall back room would be the bedroom. There is only a little space between the door and the opposite wall, so the dresser quickly shoved crossways would make it impossible for the door to be forced. We'd just have to be sure we'd stocked food and water in that room as well. In fact, it might be better to automatically fall back to that room and not try to defend the stairs in any event, because there might not be enough time to move the dresser otherwise.





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Posted 14 March 2010 - 11:57 AM

Silly Shin, never stay stationary during the early days of the zombie apocalypse. They'll rush you.

You need to get out in the open, where there's big fields and you can spot them coming. Just stay in your car, move it every couple of hours, when you sleep park your car on a farm with a gravel courtyard. That way you'll hear the zombies before they reach the car.
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 12:57 PM

Apt trying to get out of a city by car in the early days of a Zombie outbreak is actually the wrong idea.
The traffic congestion will paralyze every street and turn the motorways into killing fields.
Shin has the right idea, stay put and barricade and stay low.
They'll only rush if they know your're there.
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 01:05 PM

Darkwatch is right. Roadways in Japan are congested in normal times. The only moving idea that would work would be to take to one of the uninhabited hills that are nearby, but then you have more supply troubles, and frankly, human nature being what it is I'd rather avoid the possible roving bands of humans who are desperate and may cause more trouble than zombies. Laying low is the way to go.



And farms in Japan are mostly rice paddies, wide open fields are rare (unless you're in Hokkaido) and I've never seen a gravel driveway in Japan...

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 01:21 PM

View PostDarkwatch, on 14 March 2010 - 12:57 PM, said:

Apt trying to get out of a city by car in the early days of a Zombie outbreak is actually the wrong idea.
The traffic congestion will paralyze every street and turn the motorways into killing fields.
Shin has the right idea, stay put and barricade and stay low.
They'll only rush if they know your're there.


You're assuming we're living in Los Angeles or Inner London or something. Unless you're living in a really big city it wont be that much of a problem making it out. Hell, I'm two clicks from the nearest harbor. I could run down there jump in a small boat and sail up or down the coast for safety relatively easily. There's mostly warehouses and small office buildings between me and the water. In a case of a zombie outbreak the offices would be empty.

Hollywood zombies can always smell or hear the living, so they'll come for you, when everyone else around you is dead the zombies will gather around your house making a wall of undead flesh you can't escape. And that's just if they're the slow, dumb kind. The I Am Legend or 28 days later zombies would be coming through the windows and pummelling the barricades until they got through.
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 02:15 PM

The good thing about living in BFN is I can drive pretty much anywhere through fields in my truck. And my friend who lives the closest to me has a gun stash of at least 30-40 guns.

Theres quite a few places around here you can see people coming from all directions for miles so we'd hole up there for a while.

Apparently people put more thought into this than i have.
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 02:24 PM

I'd probably find someone big and nasty to hide behind. A la

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 02:24 PM

Apt, which hollywood movies allowed zombies to smell or sense humans at range? Granted, they could always tell humans from zombies if you walked past them, but even in 28 Days Later they had to find you by sight or sound.

And I'm just South of Yokohama, a metropolis of millions and there is no immediate countryside to escape to... However, I'm actually close to a few of the US Naval bases here. The boat idea is a good one, I'm close to the shore, but still, dealing with thousands upon thousands of panicked civilians doesn't seem the way to go given my situation.
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 02:51 PM

I, for one, welcome our new smelly undead overlords.
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 03:43 PM

Global outbreak of fast zombies? Everyone's fucked. The military might be bright enough to do some 'drive out in tank, spin on spot while playing loud music, return to base when low on fuel' shenanigans but everyone else who doesn't live on a base or have a boat literally next door is the hor'dourves.

Alt gets killed by all the zombies who had the same idea pre-devouring; Apt is pulled apart by zombies who catch him easier thanks to all the handholds his armour gives them when he either faces zombies in riot gear he can't kill, gets careless at a supermarket he thinks isn't completely looted (spoiler: they ALL will be), relaxes for a moment when he sees every boat is gone already because everyone in a harbour town is not suicidal and took everything seaworthy already, or runs out of fuel/is too tired to hear the zombies approach over his magical gravel floor until it's too late; Shin gets dragged into a crowd of zombies who indeed can't bite through the long and grabbable duster so settle for his face and hands instead; Slow Ben has the best chance and probably would live to get bored and commit suicide by riding a combine harvester into zombies; MTS squeals like a piggy; Brood defects and is briefly the most urbane and witty member of any group he's ever been a part of for the first time until being munched. Ironically we're all saved by Tiste after the vitally challenged decide onmass that oblivion is preferable and rush out to buy a copy keel over properly dead.

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 04:30 PM

I live in Glasgow.

If a zombie outbreak occured, no-one would notice the difference.
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 04:41 PM

My plan has 1 giant flaw, i need to know of the zombie outbreak a week or 2 in advance, anywyas here it is:
1. Move to the sahara with family/friends + GF
2.buy/build a giant house sized bulldozer complete with water processing facilities and alot of food sotrage capacity
3. arm myself with a hell of alot a guns and crossbows (as the bolts can be reused)
4. Never stop moving round the desert
5.SURVIVE!!
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 04:42 PM

View PostCocoreturns, on 14 March 2010 - 04:30 PM, said:

I live in Glasgow.

If a zombie outbreak occured, no-one would notice the difference.


Haha how true that is! im here in glasgow to and tbh you do have to wonder about some ppl here already
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 04:44 PM

I would head over to the Winchester.

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 05:38 PM

I'd put on a full suit of lethear-kevlar biker outfit, including the helmet. Probably would have to think of something to protect the neck better, not sure what that'd be. Then grab my swords and head to the closest store that'll have better armor - a tougher helmet especially since biking helmets' visors can break from smashy. The plan is to have suitable armor everywhere on my body that can withstand unlimited biting - kevlar is best since it can withstand nearly unlimited biting and is pretty light. Beyond that... improvise, but never, ever take off the armor ever except to quickly consume food and water. Of course, I'd try to avoid swarms of zombies because they can swarm me and it'll be bloody hard to get away, but they won't be able to bite me and I can hopefully eventually cut them all and get away.

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 05:57 PM

Kill myself in some painless way. Will save me from all the shouting and highly unhygienic biting.

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 06:40 PM

Coco and mr butterson will notice a slight improvement in local etiquette and fragrance; Bubba has a nice pint and listens to some Queen songs; D'rek will eventually get too dehydrated and her weapons too degraded to continue running and gets buried in a pile of zombies, eventually dying when the horde snaps her neck after dislocating and breaking all her limbs while trying to get past the armour; Tapper will be called a spoilsport.

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