[RodeoRanch]

So the answer to Shin's title question is YES and many, many items that can maim and kill people and wild animals that for some reason have a strange unwavering grudge with you.

[amphibian]

Tiste Simeon, on 13 March 2010 - 03:12 AM, said:

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Mine are actually my cousin's, as he asked me to hold onto them for a bit two years ago and still hasn't gotten them back - despite him being 10 minutes away.

And someone else here has a kukri? Those things are the most badass knives ever made - excellent machetes too.

There weren't any suspicious red marks on the blade when your cousin asked you to "hold onto them" were there?

I don't ask questions. I'm loyal like that.

This post has been edited by amphibian: 13 March 2010 - 10:44 PM

[maro]

Illuyankas, on 13 March 2010 - 06:01 PM, said:

Pfft, edged weapons would be good in a zombie holocaust right until you get tired and the edge is dulled and bent by hacking through however many skulls. Then you die. Max Brooks may know nothing about military tactics or guns but the whole stabbing weapons thing is good. You want an anti zombie sword, take an estoc and go for the eye sockets. Morning star is also good, if tiring.

You've espoused this theory on the other thread Illy. As I said, stabbing weapons are fine 1 on 1 but can easily get caught up on multiple tarkets.

Even blunt, a proper shinken is formidable - mine is 1.4kg. Plenty of kinetic energy for Blunt force trauma.

The Khukri is perhaps the best of both worlds. Heavy enough to chop and short enough to stab easily.

A morning star is a bit hard to control - Leoman not withstanding - it can easily "bite" you on the backswing (Another reason to avoide double-bitted or back spiked Axes). The Mace is the best compromise.


Shinrei, Only the one I've ordered is from Japan. I've actually got no idea how much it will be - no deposit paid either as it's an "Honour" purchase. The smith loves the fact we actually cut with them and not just store them.

My others are half custom/half production.

[Illuyankas]

Energy preservation and reducing equipment degradation are the key points here. Stabbing weapons reduce the surface area of the weapon that might get jammed in bone, and going in through the eyes reduces that further. Short quick stab-and-swivel thrusts are less tiring (most important part here), less weapon-damaging and more efficient than decaps or crushing the brain with a slash. No edge to get dulled and burred, plus you can lean the redeceased bodies to either side and foul the steps of the other zombies. A short(ish) spear would be also be helpful, with range and handy walking stick alternate usage. Kukris are good for both combat and survival purposes, and the morning star I know some people refer to is more of a mace with the ball from a morning star for a head, and think of the original as kind of a flail. Either way you're right in that they'd work too.

Oh, and that comment predated the other thread, haha.

[Morgoth]

Hmph.. not much in the way of an impressive collection.

I've got an Ethiopian fighting knife (which is very very blunt), a fighting spear, a shield, and a short scimitar I bought in Turkey.

The Ethiopian weapons I inherited from my grandfather and are probably too old to be sturdy.

[Shinrei]

My best zombie fighting combo aside from my shinken would definately be my shortsword in one hand and the spear in the other. Swingy swing swing. Stabby stab stab.










Drinky drink burp.

[HoosierDaddy]

Is the drinking style double-fisted as well? You'll lose technical points if not.

[Aptorian]

Unless you're very good at stabbing zombies in the eye, I don't think a spear would be much use against a zombie.

[Shinrei]

"Luckily" zombies dont pull away from sharp objects, so I assume all you gotta do is put the spear point into the zombies face and they'll just keep shoving in on it until they die. Simple!

[Tapper]

Shinrei, on 15 March 2010 - 12:27 PM, said:

"Luckily" zombies dont pull away from sharp objects, so I assume all you gotta do is put the spear point into the zombies face and they'll just keep shoving in on it until they die. Simple!

In which case, unless th spear has a crossbar, you're screwed as there's no way to pull it out.
I'd go for a naginata (or nagamaki), personally. Multi-purpose. The length of the shaft should make swinging cuts less energy-consuming than doing that with a sword.

[Shinrei]

Crap in close quarters though. That's why you need to have several weapons strapped onto yourself. Long weapons to start, getting closer and closer as your weapons become trapped or lost. Naginata is a good place to start, falling back to longsword to short sword to knives and then to brass knuckles. A mace would be a nice thing to have.

All of my zombie preparation is based on what I actually own. Don't have a naginata unfortunately. I would love to own one though - I've never seen one in a blade store here.

I held one of the biggest blades I've ever touched a few weeks ago. It was an enormous Edo period blade, made back then as a "replica" of the war blades of the warring states period. It was double the weight of my shinken and both blade and hilt significantly longer. That sucker would split heads in two with little effort.

The best situation is to have several people who are trained working together. In Japan that would mean edged weapons. In the US, firearms.

This post has been edited by Shinrei: 15 March 2010 - 01:34 PM

[D'rek]

Aptorian, on 15 March 2010 - 06:42 AM, said:

Unless you're very good at stabbing zombies in the eye, I don't think a spear would be much use against a zombie.

As much as movies have the whole "you have to shoot them in the head" thing, tbh zombies still have ligaments - slash them at thigh level and they'll be unable to walk anymore. They'll still crawl at you, but they're easy to walk away from or finish off then.

[maro]

D, on 15 March 2010 - 08:10 PM, said:

Aptorian, on 15 March 2010 - 06:42 AM, said:

Unless you're very good at stabbing zombies in the eye, I don't think a spear would be much use against a zombie.

As much as movies have the whole "you have to shoot them in the head" thing, tbh zombies still have ligaments - slash them at thigh level and they'll be unable to walk anymore. They'll still crawl at you, but they're easy to walk away from or finish off then.

Exactly - I elucidated this on the other thread. a slowed down/limbless Zombie is easier to take out. Spears have the bonus of being easier to learn/apply. The tips can slash as well as thrust.

[Apsalar]

Off the top of my head, I've only got a crossbow. And some leather armor. And a throwing knife but I really only eat with it.

[Shinrei]

You eat with a throwing knife? That's both awesome and must be intimidating to people who eat with you

[Apsalar]

Well, it's sharp and it has its own case and it's actually kind of girly looking. Swords and knives aren't all that uncommon among my friends and I don't bring it to school.

[Soulessdreamer]

Being a broke kiwi guns are not and option so:

I have the usual mudane weapons

Car
kitchen knives
Gardening tools
Hammer
hatchet
wood axe

and my reinactment stuff which is blunted

71/2 foot spear
Sheild
Practical rapier
Practical basket hilt backsword
My hand and a half is currently in peices
four machettes

and the stuff that is combat ready

granddads ww2 bayonet
dads pig knife
a couple of "feasting" daggers
Basket hilt backsword
a machette

And yes I am trained/training in how to use them properly. Why? Because its fun.

TTFN

[Nicodimas]

Only the notables:

Hawks. Knives and all things .308 ...

Ill start with bladed weapons:

Strider Sng <Pocketknife>
Strider Mod-10 Tad Gear Edition <Fixed Blade>
A assortment of Raker Mastersmith Customs
Charles Vestal Custom Knifes<who replicates masterfully a Loveless knife>

RMJ tactical Hawk
Sayoc Winkler Hawk
RMJ peacepipe <working model>

Titanium Crowbar.

Guns:
Ruger 10/22
HK P2000 9mm
Sako .300 WinMag
Springfield Armory M1a Scout .308 Wood
Springfield Armory M1A Scout .308 Synthetic
Remington 870 12 gauge

+ others.


Next: LWRC or Noveske M4 <piston vs Di /sigh>
Tinkerblades and more Striders on the horizon.

[Mezla PigDog]

You guys are all fucking weird! You are like hybrids of hick Yank fanatics and a David Gemmell book. Well done.

[Shinrei]

I'd just like to say "I knew it." I knew most people on here would be armed to the teeth. I just wanted to make a thread to prove it.