[Path-Shaper]

Bubba, on 25 February 2010 - 11:14 PM, said:

He(Bent) is right. I had him pegged as scum.

Prior to death PM's or it didn't happen.

[bubba]

I second guesses myself...he couldn't be scum three games in a row I thought.

[Path-Shaper]

Swear that's how the draw worked. At leaset he got the Fener alt.



What do you think of the setup Bubba? And how the role distribution happened?

[bubba]

It's looks good Shin. I may have signed Dkt's death warrant though. He messed up jumping on Tennes and I called him on it, it may get him lynched.

Did you pick up on me calling Bent out in thread?

Me and Bent are best friends in real life and I always call him an ASS. So when he piped into the spat I was having with Ossric and ruse(I called Dkt a cock and ruse called me a pussy) bent piped in and said he must be the asshole. And I responded with "thats Meta".

[Path-Shaper]

Osseric/dk's speculations

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Pity about bubba
was actually a toss up between fener and Omtose to heal last night.

I thought omtose could not have been a killer because he called me out on ignoring him with regards to role speculation that he also took part in.

A killer would have not brought it up.


I think shadow could be scum
He is too cautious in how he responds... only scum need be extra cautious.

Of course it could just be his writing style... but so far since yesterday he rubs me the wrong way.

[Tapper]

Tis a slow game, but there's a lot of content .

[Path-Shaper]

FenerBent plans future strategy. Obviously assumes the Fener alt will get lynched at some point.

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It should be noted, that I am tring to make it look like I am distancing from Serc, that way, if I get lynched, then you might want to make a point of how I voted Serc in my second post...he votes me when theres no pressure on me, and I keep jabbing at him. An obvious distancing tactic.

[Path-Shaper]

If this kill goes through, and with the lack of participation by the RIs, this speculation spells a likely "game over" for town.


The D'riss

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Well, what do you think? Thinking Ruse would be a good kill, has the potential to be vocal. Osseric is another choice.. he seems to have a hard-on for me and that could get difficult down the line. I definately think we should keep Eloth and Spite around. They do basically nothing. Shadow, we could make a case on pretty easy, so I would like to keep him around. He was fence sitting, and I think the sheep could be persuaded to vote that way. You are setting up Serc in case you get lynched, so we should leave him. Kalse could be a safe kill. So, my thought... if we get mockra lynched off, we can kill Osseric... that leaves only Ruse/shadow as people that Kind of contribute... we can then go with the angle that Osseric was a symp and push ruse into his "Vote low Posters" line of thinking. Maybe then get Eloth or Spite voted off.

If we don't get mockra lynched , and get a low poster... maybe take out shadow or Kalse, then push a Mockra Lynch.

I don't know, iam talking myself in circles. What do you think?

FenerBent might keep the healer around for a while though

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To be honest, Im thinking Oss might be our symp. He keeps dropping your name - but not presenting any evidence against you. He hasn't looked at me, and he keeps throwing out other names, keeping yours safely in the middle, for distance purposes.

I agree that Ruse would be a good choice, semi vocal, but not really looking at anything worth watching. Wants to go for low posters, which we want to keep around. So how about a provisional

If Mockra is lynched - Kill Ruse
If anyone else is lynched Kill Mockra?

What do you think?

D'ude

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Provisional: Yeah if Mockra is lynched, kill ruse.


But if he isn't lynched, dont we want to keep Mockra around as a potential easy fall back lynch? I would think someone like Kalse. I think we can get Mockra lynched, if not today, def. tomorrow. But, I will bow to your experience, so... :


To PS my Provisional is whatever Fener says


FYI I will most likely be able to check up this weekend maybe 1-2 times, so I will basically be vanishing.

FenerBent

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Yeah, I was thinking that if we kill Mockra, it will cause all kinds of confusion. But if you think that we can push a lynch on him (I figure hes gone today either way, lol) , lets change that to -

Provisional - Kill Ruse, if he is lynched - Kill Shadow.

[bubba]

I think you need to give someone a "one shot vig" that can only be used on fener.

[Shinrei]

Bubba, on 26 February 2010 - 10:11 PM, said:

I think you need to give someone a "one shot vig" that can only be used on fener.

Would it no longer be considered M&P if I "resurrected" you in the Alkend alt as a ninja bomber who is only allowed to say one line, "DIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE!"

?



I wonder if this game will survive the weekend...... I would have liked to have done a no freeze at all, but since the scum are the ost vocal, they'd just run the game with dk gone for the weekend.

I feel the most sorry for Silencer. He's the one roleless who is really playing. (And you too Bubba, but Bent ended that...)

[Path-Shaper]

dk-osseric's thoughts

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Shadow has all of the sudden come more out of his "shell"

I am not sure if its simply because he now has more time on the weekend as he claims or if its because of the votes placed on fener.

Now i have been thinking fener to be inno up till now, could shadow be feners symp?. Thats something i have to consider.
Still there is at least some talking from shadow and im not too sure about him any more.

I think its 50/50 on weather he is scum... He makes some decent points...but why all of the sudden now?
If my gut is right and shadow IS scum..then he seemed to be subtly protecting fener.
Thats means that i must stop healing fener...
I have my doubts over mockra being scum, his hypocrisy is a scum clue but i dont think its too damning.
Still need to watch him.

As for the rest...shit i dunno they just not posting enough...

And not surprisingly, the killers are gunning for the only 2 people who are actually PMing me their thoughts.

The D'riss

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Yeah, lets kill Osseric. Now that obdi is out of the way, lets get DKT out.

Provisional Kill Osseric. If he is Lynched, Kill Shadow.


Surprised Eloth is still around in game tbh, but lets keep the mysterious low posters around.

Think I am going to push hard against Mockra tomorrow. See if we can get him lynched.

I'll be back in 12 hrs or so when I get to work.

Eloth is still around because I sent Grief a warning message about mod-kill, and he showed up and posted. He only gets one PM warning from me though, so if he doesn't come back within the proper time frame, he is modkilled.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 01 March 2010 - 10:22 PM

[Path-Shaper]

dk is smart, but he's not on the right track here

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Anyways...ive got two lines of thought now.
If shadow is inno...then i dont like the way kalse has ignored mockra after stating he rubbs him the wrong way...make no sense and seems like attempted distancing.
So i would think at the moment
mockra and kalse are potentially scum partners if shadow is inno.

[Path-Shaper]

dk-Osseric finally mentions the scum as possible scum!

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Heal MYSELF

Anyways...im gona have to go back and read the thread, but i think im gonna have to go to my original assessment.
I think shadow, driss, are the killers kalse is also an option as he has been erratic.
With fener as the asshole symp...

im going to have to do a reread and see if i can build a case....its pretty difficult with them playing so clean.

[Gem Windcaster]

I'm not surprised. Meh.

That I am dead and that Fener is a killer both. Hah. Does this game have symps? I didn't see any mention of it.

This post has been edited by Gem Windcaster: 02 March 2010 - 02:51 PM

[bubba]

How was there a kill?

[Gem Windcaster]

Dude I don't know, I just got a message I was dead.

[Path-Shaper]

Why would there not be a kill? The killers said Mockra - if lynched kill Serc.

Osseric healed himself.



And there is no symp. Given the lack of finder and disconnect between guard and healer, I (ala Tapper) figured that would make it hard enough for innos.

[Path-Shaper]

Fener-Bent

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I am such a dick. Poor DK. He doesn't realize that the only reason I am being like I am, is because he was dead on with the maybe the killers lynched Serc because they knew she wasn't their symp, thought.

Dude - you might consider calling me an idiot, and agreeing that Oss probably IS NOT scum. Then latch onto his Shadow case. Dont be too bold, but make sure Oss knows you are on his side, and if you and he push the shadow lynch, I we only need a third to have this won

Provisional - kill Osseric - if he is lynched - kill Shadow

The D'riss

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Hey I am here.. haven't popped on thread yet. I will be around the next 8 hours... not sure your work schedule, but see if you can coax DKT into a vote... meh, he's to veteran to throw his vote aound willy nilly like that, but worth a try. I think we can probably push the shadow angle a bit... he seems to want to go there, but I am not going to say too much till someone else.. Kalse? Comes back on. so six people, need 4 to lynch.. this is gonna be a challenge to fool 2 sheeple. I'll consider it a moral voctory if we can get DKT to put his vote on shadow

Yeah, in retrospect, that kill was a little suspect... but... had we not killed serc she would be coming at you full force today and thats thoughts we don't want in others heads.

Fener-Bent

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Wait til you read the thread, lol....anyway - REMEMBER - if we get a lynch on shadow, or anyone else, do not celebrate until the game is officially over...dont want a suprise vig shooting us in the face as we laugh at them. lol

Or if you try to kill the person the healer is healing leaving it 3 vs 2 having been outed...

[Path-Shaper]

Here's a nice big long conversation from Fener and The Dude

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This ain't my first rodeo

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Hey, you were thinking bout making a case against me! - but seriously, I get nervous this close to a win, so sorry if I come off as sounding bossy...Im really a dick in real life...it sometimes (rarely) bleeds through to my mafia play....I know, you probably didnt notice, but its true. Just ask Bubba!

Anyway, its been an hour and you are still catching up....Im gonna come on and raise hell about that lol.

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hehhe- I am gonna totally get DKT to vote for shadow by reinforcing his belief that we are partners.. gonna go on thread, saying I am not sold on a shadow case and would much rather vote Kalse or you. This will get shadow on my side as well, hopefully setting up a train of Occeric, You, Kalse,then me for a hammer on shadow. thoughts?

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Run with that, but make sure you dont get the vote turned onto yourself. In fact, you might instead of Kalse - go after Spite and me. DK did include Spite in his list - so barring a Shadow lynch, he might hop onto a Spite lynch. Just a thought.

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hahaha great minds think alike as I was typing up my post I decided to go with a Spit angle. Which could actually enforce or erode a connection between me and Shadow... poor DKT, I almost feel bad for him.

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Its funny actually. Both you and I are feeding DK a line of bullshit - making him
a. stay on the defensive and
b. feel like he is the deciding vote in all of this.

Neither of us are even acknowledging the fact that Kalse, Spite and Shadow are even playing the game. I imagine DK is feeling that he is the only one who can win this, and that much pressure is crazy! I mean, lets be honest - when DK logs off until tomorrow, we get to do much the same thing to the others. You pressuring Spite, me beating up Shadow, who knows what will happen to Kalse....Cry Havoc and let slip the hounds of WAR! Or something like that.

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hahahahahaha this is awesome. Just gotta keep the pressure on. You are decidedly better at that than me, but i'll do my part ^^;

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Bullshit Dude - youve had 4 or 5 people call you out and you never responded. And they forgot. I mean seriously, if I dont blow up at every accusation I am toast by day 2! Im not trying to toot our horn early or anything, but its been great teaming up with you.

Do you have a card yet?

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Yeah, i've had a lot of scum roles lately and have been experimenting with how to respond to pressure. Actually ignoring it nd making cases on others seems to work rather well. When I defend, i come off as defensive and thats like blood in the water to a mafia player.

Yeah, our styles complement eachother very well... no one at all has matched us up as killer pair yet. Even if one of us manages to get lynched today.. they are going to have a hard time linking us.

No card for me yet. Haven't really had a break out moment in my mafia career though I am currently on a 5-6 match winning streak which is a personal best. ( knock on wood)

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Well, when this is over I am gonna nominate you for a card - if you can think of one fine, if not I am gonna go with something like - Conductor or Orchestrator of HHM, something to show that you are nearly impossible to lynch and really control the game. Everyone in spoilers needs to weigh on this as well.

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Puppetmaster Idk I am definately always behind the scenes. I'll let you decide. Would mean more coming from someone else.

Really wish more ppl would show up. need moar fun.




Oh wow... Shadow just came on and left with a vote on Osseric... this is an insane thing to do if you are inno and aren't SURE you have scum... DKT gonna be all over that and vote Shadow for sure.... we just need Kalse or Spite to get on and vote and we can 3/4 HAMMER!..... so close! Shadow, what are you thinking!!! You know you are inno, how can you be so sure >.<';;;; oh well, to our benifit.

Hopefully you are around bent incase someone jumps on. We should both be on when we need to hammer. so there is no lag between votes 3 and 4.

Also,

Kill Kalse. if he is lynched Kill spite. Just cause we need to have an action so that the game ends right away if there is no inno vig.


Also, I was thinking, if we do end up with no lynch... think we should hold our kill? getting rid of another player only helps the inno's. Is that a legal strat?

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No -too big a gamble, and it gives the innos another day to ponder on scum. Better to take the kill when we can. We hit one power role, and theres no one who has not been killed (which means no healer, IMO) so better to kill when we can. Going after Kalse or Spite will be the better idea, as Shadow and Osseric are battling for the lynch right now.

provisional - Kill Kalse. if he is lynched Kill spite.

I have some work to do at home . If some one adds their vote to Shadow, let it stew, dont hop on...that way common sense says that he must be the killer because if its 2 others they would just hop on and end it.

[Path-Shaper]

Poor dk could use someone to talk to as well.

He's barking up the wrong tree. Thing is, he should be able to reveal if the NK doesn't go through due to the heal and get himself off any hooks, but he's barking up the wrong tree with Shadow.

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Ok from what i can glean

Shadow and spite and stand out for me.

Everyone who is still alive has pointed a finger at Spite except for Shadow...And spite has not looked at at shadow as far as i could tell either.
They have never really gone for each other...wich could mean something.
That would though...make the symp already dead.


Fener and driss i dont think could be partners as D'riss has on numerous occasions pointed a finger at fener for no reason.
between fener and driss the two of them have pointed fingers at pretty much everyone including each other.
Which is prety normal.

I can only really see shadow and spite as the killers. Once you put it all down...who was pointing fingers at who.

But...there is distancing that doesnt factor into all of this... so its never fool proof.