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Mafia 58 Spoilers - Rot3K Chapter 3 Romance of the 30 Cultdoms

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 08:34 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 16 February 2010 - 07:57 PM, said:

hah, I feel really stupid now. I always suck at leading a cult as I always get myself lynched. This time, I thought, it was time to change and show that I am actually capable of doing a decent Gavin routine.

Imagine how stupid I felt when I realized somewhere during the week-end that the most likely scenario was for everyone to start equal.



At this point all I can do is giggle maniacally Posted Image

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 17 February 2010 - 12:19 AM

Korbas, on 16 February 2010 - 09:16 PM, said:

I'm considering recruiting Meanas from the POV of getting him to reveal Yuan.
No change of prov yet.


PB has been doing some scene analysis. See, people are reading your scenes D'rek! :D

Meanas, on 17 February 2010 - 12:12 AM, said:

Post this to spoilers. I was going to post it to the main thread, but it basically concludes that Yuan Shao has been a recruiting demon and that Yuan Shu has had only 1 successful recruit. I thought I would conclude that Yuan Shu has been recruiting a lot, but maybe he's gaining his power another way?!

I wanted to check with the mid-day scenes to try and figure out what has been happening for the last several nights. D'rek has helpfully underlined what must be the important text, so I'm just going to make it big.

Here's Day 2:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 10 February 2010 - 10:19 PM, said:


The imperial procession passed Xinfeng and reached the Baling bridge. It was autumn, and a sharp west wind was blowing. Hundreds of troops clattered onto the bridge, blocking the carriages. "Who wants to pass?" a harsh voice demanded. Privy Counselor Yang Qi rode onto the bridge and answered, "The Emperor. Who dares prevent us?" Two generals stepped up to Yang Qi. "We are here," they said, "at the order of General Fan Chou, we cannot allow you to pass." The Emperor was distraught. "Out of the wolf's lair," he lamented, "and into the tiger's mouth. What can we do?" His whole entourage trembled. Fan Chou's rebels edged closer. Then, to the blast of drums another general appeared from behind a hill, unfurling a giant banner reading "Yuan Shu of the Great Han." He had one thousand soldiers ready for combat.

Hearing that the Emperor was passing, Yuan Shu had come to offier his services. Now his army stood opposite Fan Chou's. Fan Chou's general, Li Meng, rode before the two lines and denounced Yuan Shu. Shu turned to his line and called for Ji Ling, who charged out, battle-axe in hand, on a superb steed. Ling went straight for Li Meng and cut him down in a quick exchange. Yuan Shu then overpowered Fan Chou's forces and drove them off some twenty
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The Emperor proceeded to Anyi to establish his capital there. The procession enetered Anyi, but finding no building with an upper story, the royal couple had to stay beneath the thatched roof of a simple farmhouse without a gate. A screen of brambles on all sides took the place of an outer wall. In the farmhouse the Emperor conferred with his ministers while the generals stood guard outside. There, the court first learned new reports that the armies of Sun Ce, Yang Feng, Liu Biao and Gongsun Du had all fallen. The chaos was on all sides now...


Sun Ce was Anomandaris, and so his 'army falling' makes perfect sense. However, Yang Feng, Liu Biao, and Gongsun Du all had armies of their own fall that same night. I am pretty confident this means that THREE players were recruited on night 1. We don't, however, know who got off those recruitments.

We also seem to get information that Yuan Shu did something to Fan Chou, but I'm not sure what that would be, or if that is just flavor for the scene.

Here's Day 3's mid-day scene, for the events of night 2...

View PostPath-Shaper, on 11 February 2010 - 07:19 PM, said:

The Emperor entered Luoyang and saw the ruin of his former capital - the palace buildings burned out, the streets and markets desolate. Everything was overgrown with weeds. The walls of the palaces were crumbling. Emperor Xian ordered Yuan Shu to build a small dwelling to serve as a provisional palace. In the meantime court was held in the open woods.

Grand Commandant Yang Biao appealed to the Emperor: "The decree with which you honored me has yet to be dispatched. At present Yuan Shao has the most powerful army in the northeast. He should be summoned to support the royal house." "I have so ordered," said the Emperor. "A second petition is not necessary. Send someone and be done with it." In accordance with the imperial will, an envoy was sent.

In Luoyang the Emperor found all in ruin. Even the walls were beyond repair. Moreover, reports of new threats from Fan Chou and Zhang Ji alarmed him. To Yuan Shu the Emperor said, "Our messenger has not returned. Our enemies could come at any time. What can we do?" Yuan Shu replied, "I will fight to the death to protect Your Majesty." But Dong Cheng said, "Look at our walls and how few soldiers we have! What if we fail? I recommend that Your Majesty proceed to Cao Cao's camp." The Emperor approved, and that day the court set out for the region east of Huashan. Horses were so scarce that the officials followed the Emperor's carriage on foot.

The procession was hardly under way when clouds of dust darkened the sky ahead, and the air throbbed with drums and gongs. Masses of troops loomed in the distance. Emperor and Empress were too frightened to speak. A single rider approached. It was the imperial envoy. "General Yuan Shao," he reported, "has called up every soldier in the northeast and is coming in response to your decree. He has sent Yan Liang on ahead with ten top generals and fifty thousand picked men to deal with the threat to Luoyang from Fan Chou and Zhang Ji." At last the Emperor felt safe.

At the suggestion of Shao's generals, the Emperor returned to his former palace in Luoyang. Yan Liang stationed his army outside the city. The next day Yuan Shao arrived with the main force, established camp, and was received. Prostrating himself below the stairs to the imperial dais, Yuan Shao acknowledged his sovereign. The Emperor bade him stand and commended him for his service. Yuan Shao and his advisors spent the rest of the day updating the Emperor on recent events: after Tao Qian's general Zhang Kai had killed Cao Cao's family, Cao Cao had invaded Xu and Yang. In the west, Han Sui had come into conflict with his sworn-brother Ma Teng, and a great battle was fought between them at Tianshui. Tao Qian and Han Sui's forces were both completely wiped out.


Again, we get more information about some of the power players. Fan Chou is mentioned again, but as a side note, making me think he's a flavor character, only. I was formerly Tao Qian, and I was recruited and became Yan Liang (almost mentioned in the scene). Han Sui was also recruited night 2. Who could Han Sui have been? Why, none other than Tulas Shorn.

So, we know on Night 2 that Lu Bu (Korv) and Yuan Shao (????) both got off successful recruitments. However, nobody else (including Yuan Shu) was successful, apparently. Tulas now has an alibi and cannot be Yuan Shu, as indicated.

View PostTulas Shorn, on 16 February 2010 - 04:25 AM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote Meanas

Why? Because his reveal is full of shit. I was recruited by Korvalain (on night 2!). Here is the PM:

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The Tulas Shorn army has been routed and is now commanded by Wei Xu, an ______officer of Lu Bu (Korvalain).


Last night, I was stolen away by someone else.

Now Korv is worthy of a vote because he obviously has had some success because he recruited me earlier, but he lost me last night and is weakened for that. How strong he is, is debateable but not as strong as I suspect Meanas (or his master) to be.

Because of this, a vote on Korvalain can wait, but a vote on Meanas now seems most prudent. Not only does he admit to earlier lies, but he claims a name for Korvalain that is false, and he claims to have been recruited by Korvalain on the same night as I.

Any way you slice it, it smells like fish.


Going back just a bit, to the Day 2 lynch, the 'day end' scenes, we have been told, are NOT to be evaluated as having hints, but I still can't help but notice that the original text indicates that Lui Bei conquired Lui Baio, who was apparently recruited night 1 (see above if you forgot where I mentioned that). So maybe Lui Bei had a successful recruit Night 1, but I'm not sure how much I want to read into that. There's no indication that Okaros ever had much of a following. A case was built that Korv was fake symping him, and that certainly possible since both were warlords at the times of their deaths.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 11 February 2010 - 04:42 AM, said:

Day 2 is ended.
13 Players still alive: Galayn Lord, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Okaros, Omtose, Ruse, Spite, Sukul Ankhadu, Telas, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Spite ( Okaros, Liosan, Ruse )
7 Votes for Okaros ( Tulas Shorn, Telas, Tennes, Sukul Ankhadu, Meanas, Omtose, Spite )

Players not voted: Galayn Lord, Korbas, Korvalain

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After Liu Bei completed his conquest of Liu Biao's domain, he turned his eyes south to the rest of Jing province. Han Xuan, governor of Changsha just south of the river, immediately sent forth his top general Wei Yan with all the troops he could muster, but the army was decimated in a fiery ambush perfectly executed by Liu Bei's strategist, Xu Shu. With Liu Bei's troops overrunning his capital, Han Xuan fled south with his son, Han Hao, to the remote regions controlled by governor Jin Xuan. Han Xuan said, "Jin Xuan's Wu Ling has tens of thousands of troops, more than enough to hold off Liu Bei. If they receive us, we can kill the governor, take his land, and rebuild our strength until we're ready to stand against Liu Bei. That way we can recover the whole of Jing." Thus agreed, father and son presented themselves. But the governor, feigning illness, postponed their reception and kept them in a guesthouse.

Before long spies reported to the governor that Liu Bei was established in Changsha and had no intentions of marching to Wu Ling. Delighted with the news, Jin Xuan positioned armed men behind the wall hangings in the official hall and had the visitors shown in. The formalities concluded, the governor bade them be seated. It was bitter cold. Han Xuan, seeing no cushions on the floor, asked, "May we have mats?" Glaring at them, the governor said, "Your heads are going on a long journey. What do you want mats for?" Han Xuan was taken aback. Jin Xuan shouted, "Guards! What you waiting for?" The executioners rushed out and beheaded the men where they sat. The governor had their heads place in a wooden box, which he dispatched to Changsha. Liu Bei received the heads and sent to Wu Ling a thousand catties of fine silk as a token of appreciation. Thereafter, Liu Bei made no plans to conquer Wu Ling.


Okaros (alt146) is dead. He was the Warlord Han Xuan.


On Day 3, we lynched Liosan, who was a symp of Lu Bu. We MUST assume, if my conclusions are correct so far, that Liosan was previously one of Yang Feng, Liu Biao, and Gongsun Du and has been recruited by Yuan Shu the first night. So at this point, Yuan Shu is back to 0 recruits, since he apparently failed the previous night, as concluded by me, previously.

On Day 4, we got the following mid-day scene.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 15 February 2010 - 10:10 PM, said:

One day the Emperor summoned Yuan Shao to the palace. Receiving the messenger, Shao noticed that his eye was clear and his manner energetic. "You at least are plump enough. How do you take care of yourself?" "No special method," replied the man. "I have fared hard and simply for thirty years." Shao nodded and continued, "And what office do you hold?" "I was recommended for filial devotion and honesty," the messenger replied, "and have served Liu Bei, as well as Zhang Yang. When I heard the Emperor was back in the eastern capital, I came to pay my respects and was appointed court counselor. I am Dong Zhao, a native of Dingtao in Jiyin." "A name long known to me," replied Shao. "How fortunate to meet with you here."

Yuan Shao admired the aptness of Dong Zhao's replies and proceeded to ask him about the condition of the royal house. "My lord," he answered, "the loyal army you command has saved the court from chaos and rescued the Son of Heaven. For this you rank with the Five Protectors of antiquity, who safeguarded the sovereigns of the Zhou dynasty. In the present instance, however, we have many generals with many ambitions; they may not always obey you. Therefore it might be more advantageous to move the Emperor from Luoyang to Ye. On the other hand, the court is newly installed here in the former capital after a period of shuttling about, and men of near and far yearn for stability. Another move will be widely resented. Still and all, extraordinary acts win extraordinary merit. The choice is yours."

Yuan Shao, who was timid of taking bold actions, took Dong Zhao's hand and smiled. "I really wanted to move the court," he said, "but your counsel has persuaded me I dare not, lest the high ministers who oppose the move turn against me."

So it was that the court remained in Luoyang, which was eventually rebuilt and the lands about recultivated until the capital became prosperous and defensible once more. Meanwhile, Yuan Shao completed his conquest of Cao Cao's territories, eliminating Cao's forces entirely.



-- incomplete, but this basically concludes that Yuan Shao has had a few successful recruits and Yuan Shu only one --

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 03:16 AM

Spite, on 17 February 2010 - 02:14 AM, said:

Anyway, recruit Ruse: tactical

If I find Dong Zhou has been guarding me every night since night two I will not be a happy camper.


Noted.

Omtose, on 17 February 2010 - 02:57 AM, said:

sigh

kill TUlaS

CAN YOU SEE THAT I'M BORED YET?


Not at all. On the flip side, things have finally gotten fun for me to watch.

Sukul Ankhadu, on 17 February 2010 - 03:15 AM, said:

Changing my recruit attempt to Telas personality:tactical. Omtose better be telling the truth.


Noted.


Sukul Ankhadu, on 17 February 2010 - 04:18 AM, said:

Screw it, I'm changing my recruitment attempt again: Galayn Lord personality: tactical


Okay.

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 05:19 AM

next half-day scene: (161)

The campaign against Lu Bu complete, Yuan Shao invited Liu Bei, who had joined in the fighting at Xiaopei, to return with him to the capital. The next day Emperor Xian held court. After receiving news of the defeat of Lu Bu by Zhang Ji and the Xiongnu, and of Zhang Lu's forces' collapse in Hanzhong, Yuan Shao hailed Liu Bei's feats of arms and presented him. Attired in court apparel, Bei paid homage at the base of the steps to the throne. THe Emperor then instructed him to asced. "Tell me of your lineage," the Emperor said. "I can trace my ancestry through Prince Jing of Zhongshan," Liu Bei replied, "back to his father, Jing, the fourth emperor. My grandfater was Liu Xiong, my father Liu Hong." Emperor Xian ordered the director of the Imperial Clan to recite from the clan registry.

The Emperor checked the order of the lineage and found that Liu Bei was indeed an imperial uncle. Elated, Emperor Xian summoned him to an adjoining room, where they enacted the formalities befitting uncle and nephew. The Emperor mused, "Yuan Shao abuses his authority to the point that state affairs are out of our control. But now we may have a remedy in this heroic uncle of mine."

The Emperor guided Liu Bei to the ancestral temple and then into the Gallery of Meritorious Officials, in whose honor the Emperor burned incense before walking on with Liu Bei to admire the portraits. "So splendid, so heroic the forefather," sighed the Emperor, "so fainthearted and feeble the progeny. One can't help sighing." As he spoke, he directed Liu Bei's attention to the portraits of the two officials on either side of the Supreme Ancestor. "Is this not Zhang Liang," he went on, "lord of Liu? And this, Xiao He, lord of Cuo?" "Indeed," replied Liu Bei, "the Supreme Ancestor relied greatly on them in founding the dynasty." The Emperor observed that no one was near and whispered, "So should you, uncle, stand by us." "I have no merit," Liu Bei answered, "to serve as they served." "We remember well," the Emperor continued, "your service in fighting the tyrant Dong Zhuo, for which no reward could suffice." Then, pointing to his garments, he added, "Won't you ear this robe of mine and tie it with this girdle so that you will always seem to be by my side?"

Returning home, Liu Bei discovered in the girdle a secret decree written in the Emperor's own blood:

Of late the treasonous Yuan Shao, abusing his authority, insulting and degrading his sovereign, has connived with his cohorts to the detriment of our dynasty's rule. Day and night we brood on this, dreading the peril to the realm. Think of the obstacles and hardships the Supreme Ancestor faced when he founded this dynasty: forge a union of stouthearted men, stalwarts of unimpaired integrity and unimpeachable loyalty; exterminate this perfidious faction and restore the security of our holy shrines for our ancestors' sake. I have cut my finger and shed this blood to compose this decree confided to you. Remain vigilant. Do not fail our hopes.

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 04:26 PM

Omtose, on 17 February 2010 - 06:43 AM, said:

rofl, i'm just trying to kill random ppl, since i'm gonna fail anyhow.


as for the game: it's a WIFOM clusterfuck, and all I did was tell the truth (which is equivalent to dividing by zero in mafia). I only did it sothat these monkeys don't speed train me whilst i'm at work or asleep.


Korbas, on 17 February 2010 - 03:19 PM, said:

Recuit Omtose, and give GL the army.


ok

Korbas, on 17 February 2010 - 03:23 PM, said:

Korbas, on 16 February 2010 - 02:18 PM, said:

Starting to be paranoid that someone has stolen omtose from me.

If he had, he may have revealed me by now, or may be waiting until tommorow.

I don't want to risk wasting a recruit by trying to re-recruit him a night though.

Damn.



Damnit, should have went with the re-recruit.

Hopefully, with Telas' comment, I may be able to get out of this.

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 06:55 PM

Dude does some more game-figuring:

Ruse, on 17 February 2010 - 05:02 PM, said:

Oh the tangled webs we weave.

So let me try and straighten this out:

9 players.

3 Leaders.

2 level 4's one being Yuan Shu, the other being a defensive sub.

Known: Meanas is a recruit, Tulas is a recruit, Spite is a recruit. I am a douchewaffle who no one likes.

Suspected: Omtose is a recruit. Gaylord is a recruit. ( this is my least confident statement you might be able to switch him and Sukul, but my gut says no.)

That leaves Korbas, Telas and Sukul as the three remaining leaders.

I suspect that Korbas is infact Yuan Shu: with a Subordinate in Spite and Tulas.
I suspect that Telas is Yuan Shao: with a subordinate in Meanas.
I suspect that That Sukul is the newly made aware of leader with a subordinate in Omtose.

I believe Gaylord could be with Telas or Sukul.
I believe Tulas might be with Sukul, Really who the subordinates with is of no concern to me.



Things I have Observed:

-Other than some lip service, Meanas really dropped his Telas case day 3 which is when he got recruited.
-Spite is really looking for ways to avoid voting for Korbas
-Sukul seemed very uncomfortable whe I threw pressure on him (day 2?)
-The vote on Korbas/ remove vote on Korbas by Meanas looks very odd.
-It's pretty clear Telas is a Leader, whether he has 1 or 2 followers is the rub.. if he only has 1 follower, it is silly to lynch him today.

_________________________________________________


So unless I get recruited I am not lookin to hot, and from the looks of it I am the only one not recruited, maybe GL/Sukul ( Whichever isn't leader. I think my guard of Telas is good so his followers won't be able to grow. My only hesitation, is that I want to guard Korbas, because he will likely be able to start growing his armies a bit. I don't think they can catch me in size, btu I don't want to waste a night... we are the same size and I am basically taking a huge risk if I guard him, there is a 66% chance of faliure and I can't take a lowering of army size... I better go read the rules on battles again. Blah... C'mon, give me a vig!!! make this game reeaaaallllyyyy interesting!!! lol

I am having a real tough time trying to figure out if I can even have a chance of forcing a draw at this point. I think it's possible, but it'll take a miracle


I did say there was a reason to keep going, and I stand by that.


Ruse, on 17 February 2010 - 05:52 PM, said:

Question: If I were to perform a night action on the other level 4 player: and he was offensive, what would happen? In the OP it says same army size and same officer type. Just a bit confused. I know its late in the game to be asking this question... but i figured i better know for tomorrow.


From the OP:

View PostD, on 05 December 2009 - 04:02 AM, said:

Any hostile night actions performed where the two armies are the same size will succeed depending on the personality of the officers commanding the armies:

-Offensive succeeds against Defensive, but fails against Tactical
-Defensive succeeds against Tactical, but fails against Offensive
-Tactical succeeds against Offensive, but fails against Defensive

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 10:09 PM

Ruse, on 17 February 2010 - 08:45 PM, said:

omfg... I am having so much fun on thread. Even if I get lynched, even if my predictions are WAY off.. idc. I think I have the leaders and just to muddy the waters this much has been worth it. :D

Great game guys ^^

kinda hope I do get lynched... I am dying to know if my predictions are right.

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 03:53 AM

Quoted for when The Dude gets in here:

View PostRuse, on 18 February 2010 - 01:30 AM, said:

Like I said, no one will stand up for me. But just so you guys know, when I die, and I am shown to be the last of my faction. The Leaders are Sukul, Telas and Korbas.


Also I am the Level 4 defensive person. I know Spite isn't a leader because I have been guarding him night's 2,3,4.

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 04:06 AM

Tulas Shorn, on 17 February 2010 - 10:23 PM, said:

Guard Galayn Lord again. Seems he's offensive, and I don't think he's on the team...


Noted

Ruse, on 17 February 2010 - 10:29 PM, said:

I am so torn right now... if Telas has only 1 recruit, and I am guarding him, that means the other leader( Sukul/GL) will recruit a 3rd... Hopefully its me. if not. its gonna be 3 vs. 2 vs. 3 unaligned. which I guess is good, I will guard Telas again, and we can lynch off Sukul and there will only be 1 leader and 6 unaligned's!! rofl .. mass hysteria!!! lol I tink i am drunk. I love this game.


I'm glad you're not bored anymore - mass hysteria does tend to do that.

Meanas, on 18 February 2010 - 01:05 AM, said:

Hrm hrm hrm.

Kill Omtose


Noted

Korbas, on 17 February 2010 - 11:03 PM, said:

If I reveal as Shu, I can't see myself winning. Though I think a win is unlikely tbh.


Korbas, on 18 February 2010 - 12:57 AM, said:

Oh, and tactical.

If I can survive the day, a win may be possible.

As long as the lynch isn't Bei, then I have a chance of getting Omtose to reveal Bei, claiming a small number of recruits, and lynching Bei.

I think it's really unlikely that I can get anyone to believe I am not Yuan Shu.

I'm considering revealing now, but if all does not go to plan that tells Bei who I am. So, hopefully Bei will be promoted to make everyone think he's more dangerous, proof he's recruited etc, and hopefully I can manage to get him lynched rather than myself.




Korbas, on 18 February 2010 - 12:59 AM, said:

I may reveal now anyway. Bei probably has sussed who I am....



Korbas, on 18 February 2010 - 01:15 AM, said:

So, right now, my plan is this:

Vote on Ruse. Hopefully Ruse is not Lie Beis faction, and Liu Beis bunch and GL jump on.
Ruse is lynched.
I am recruiting Omtose.
I am hoping that Omtose is on Liu Beis faction. He has basically said as much(though I worry he wasn't recruited when he says he was(which would explain why he didn't reveal earlier) and is actually on Yuan Shaos). So I recruit Omtose, who is hopefully Liu Beis faction.
Omtose can reveal Liu Bei, who will at this stage have 3 players. Or he can just make someone up, hopefully he actually knows who LB is, though it doens't matter too much.
I reveal, claiming to be weaker than Liu Bei(Claiming I failed tonight because someone else recruited the person first....)
Hopefully, whoever Omtose reveals on is lynched, and I can recruit my way to victory. As long as none of my recruits are stolen.

Anyway, that's the plan. If I get rather lucky, it may even work...


Tactical noted and good luck with your master-plan!

Telas, on 18 February 2010 - 01:58 AM, said:

its probably pointless this late, but Rus eseems a bad choice now, especially if hes possibly the lvl4 guard. so i will
Recruit Spite


noted

Spite, on 18 February 2010 - 02:08 AM, said:

It would be so easy for me to prove Ruse wrong that I think I need to accept that he is who he says, and so I had better change that recruit order.

Recruit: Galayn Lord (defensive)


Noted.

Spite, on 18 February 2010 - 03:45 AM, said:

Odd, everyone seems to be buying Ruse's rundown of the number of teams left. Unless I am missing something we started with 14 and have had 9 eliminated. Bah, I had better check that again, because if there are ten down it really changes things.


Funny, that :D
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Posted 18 February 2010 - 04:50 AM

Meanas, on 18 February 2010 - 04:21 AM, said:

Hard to feel like you're not getting led around right now... Ruse is so cagey, but when you're close to victory, you can afford to offer lies in exchange for one more day. Good feeling Telas is probably Liu Bei with Omtose as the subordinate. I think Omtose is trying to get recruited BACK to Yuan Shao.

I think GL has admitted being a new sub of Yuan Shao. I guess Sukul took some hits that kept him from leveling up too much.

Ruse can't be killed or recruited.

Telas is probably too strong for me.

That leaves Spite and Omtose and Tulas. Sukul HAS to know that if he fails to recruit Omtose back; he could be lynched tomorrow when Omtose reveals Sukul (seems likely to happen).

So I have to kill Spite or Tulas.

Ignore the previous action, if it's even possible for me to kill anybody at this point. Spite could be solo after tonight and willing to vote along with Yuan Shao for a recruitment promise, and Tulas is probably not on my team. So while I'm tempted to just not do anything tonight,

Kill Tulas Shorn


Noted.

Meanas, on 18 February 2010 - 04:51 AM, said:

Part of me just wants to blurt out to Ruse that he should guard Telas but I don't see a way for him to win this one if either side gets a vote majority. Could be NA's really decide this, so here's hoping lol...






Spite, on 18 February 2010 - 04:33 AM, said:

So how big is the line of people trying to recruit me tonight then?


Everyone from An Ahn to Zhuge Zhu... or not.

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 05:38 AM

Lynch scene if its Korbas:

After fighting off his northern aggressors, Yuan Shu had concentrated on expanding his territory south into the lands formerly held by Liu Biao and the Sun family. Soon his reign stretched south the Chaisang and westwards through Jing right up to the borders of the Huang Zhong's lands. It was in the eastern lands of Wu, however, that Yuan Shu would meet his gravest threat - Liu Yao. Brother of the esteemed Liu Dai and a humane but mighty governor in his own right, Liu Yao had conquered Wang Lang's fertile plains and Yan Baihu's mighty fleet intact, and now wielded these two resources to dominate the land from Jian Ye to Jiang Xia. After the death of Sun Ce, Liu Yao had taken in refugees from the Sun family's forces, including the generals Zhou Tai, Jiang Qin and Chen Wu, as well as Sun Ce's sister Sun Shang Xiang, who was now Liu Yao's wife. But above all of Liu Yao's resources and officers, it was Taishi Ci, a fearless warrior from Huang Xian who could break through a fifty-thousand-man siege by himself.

The two forces engaged each other at Lu Jiang. Yuan Shu sent out his top general Zhang Xun for personal combat. Taishi Ci spotted Zhang Xun, raised his spear, and rode out to meet him. The two horsemen tangled, closing and breaking some forty or fifty times. Then Zhang Xun yielded and made for his line; Taishi Ci galloped after. Zhang Xun began circling roud his formation; Taishi Ci would not let up. From a point of vantage, Yuan Shu's general Qiao Rui drew his bow and, sighting true, shot Taishi Ci in his left eye. Bellowing in pain, Taishi Ci plucked out the arrow; the eyeball had stuck fast to the point. "The essence of my parents cannot be thrown away," he cried, and swallowed the eye. He pulled out his own bow, placed the arrow and shot at Zhang Xun, striking Xun squarely in the back. Turning, he went for Qiao Rui and speared him in the face before he could defend himself. Zhang Xun fell dead from his horse and Qiao Rui toppled from his vantage point. The spectacle left both sides aghast.

Taishi Ci rode back to his men. Heartened by their general's merits, Liu Yao's forces delivered slaughter on the leaderless troops of Yuan Shu. Yuan Shu's slain soldiers were strewn over the blood-soaked field. Thousands more fled. His former commanders, Lei Bo and Chen Lan of Mount Song, plundered his treasure, grain, and fodder. Bandits kept Shu from returning to his base city, Shouchoun, and he was forced to remain at Jianting with barely a thousand men, most of them old and weak. It was midsummer. He had thirty pecks of wheat to feed his followers. Many of his own family had already starved to death. Shu could not swallow the coarse meal and asked the cook to find some honeyed water to ease his thirst. "We have bloody water," the cook said, "no honey." Suddenly Shu, who had been seated on his couch, groaned and toppled over. He spit up mouthfuls of blood and died.

Korbas (Grief) is dead. He was the Governor Yuan Shu.
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Posted 18 February 2010 - 05:42 AM

Spite, on 18 February 2010 - 05:08 AM, said:

I am starting to believe Gaylans reveal. Hopefully in before the lynch:

Recruit Tulas Shorn(offensive)


In before the lynch it is.
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Posted 18 February 2010 - 05:43 AM

Wow, super cross-post removes and votes for a near-lynch but not quite...

Sukul Ankhadu, on 18 February 2010 - 05:24 AM, said:

For crying out loud!!!!


Spite, on 18 February 2010 - 05:50 AM, said:

I have so little chance of winning without being recruited now, it would nearly take a miracle, that I am just going to continue adding whatever WIFOM I can to the game. It may change if I actually recruit someone (hopefully Ruse stands by his word and changes targets), but for now I will just attempt to make everyone a little bit more confused.

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 06:33 AM

Omtose, on 18 February 2010 - 06:26 AM, said:

aww... I wasn't re-recruited?

how come?

kill GL, btw


noted.

Spite, on 18 February 2010 - 06:27 AM, said:

Recruit Meanas

It seems to me the two warlords are just trying to recruit each others followers at the moment. Fine with me, as long as I can actually recruit someone at some point. Ruse better not still be guarding me.



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Posted 18 February 2010 - 01:41 PM

Damn, should've went with Sukul before I went. A couple people were mentioning him.

Still, don't think I had much chance anyhow by the end.

It was a good game, and I really enjoy playing cult.

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Grief, FFS will you do something with your sig, it's bloody awful


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Grief is right (until we abolish capitalism).
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Posted 18 February 2010 - 02:17 PM

Haha, Spite recruiting Meanas is an awesome move :laughing:. I'd love it if Gwynn just hoovers everyone up while Sukul and Telas tear each other apart :p.


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Posted 18 February 2010 - 03:11 PM

Would be a deserved win if he did, since he's had little luck recruiting, but has managed to avoid a lynch rather well.

If I'm not mistaken, the current teams are:

Sukul, GL, Meanas.
Telas, Tulas, Omtose.

With Ruse and Spite seperate.

If Sukul is lynched, and Meanas recruited, that leaves:

Meanas, Spite.
Telas, Tulas, Omtose.
Ruse.
GL.

If Ruse doesn't guard Telas again, then Telas will recruit Meanas spite or GL, and have a majroity, and win.

If Ruse does guard, it will be 3v4, and the others will need to lynch and keep guarding.

The best recruit really for Spite would be omtose, who could reveal Telas. If spite recruits omtose, and Sukul is lynched, I could easily see him winning.

That's assuming they lynch Sukul, though Spite could win aswell if Telas were lynched, and he carries through with a meanas recruit, since that would leave it as 4v3 against Sukul, whom meanas could reveal. The problem being whether they believe him.

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Grief, FFS will you do something with your sig, it's bloody awful


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Posted 18 February 2010 - 03:33 PM

Meanas, on 18 February 2010 - 06:54 AM, said:

Well thankfully, Sukul got it off. Ruse didn't indicate that he had guarded Telas or Sukul, and therefore one or the other must clearly be Yuan Shao. He did mention that we could just vote Sukul and let Telas win (under the assumption that Telas is Yuan Shao) by recruiting everyone.

So now part of me is really unsure. Has Ruse been in Sukul's camp all along? Is he trying to fool everyone into thinking Telas is Yuan Shao to get him lynched for a sure victory? Or is he truly a lone dog and just think Telas is Yuan Shao? Hrrrmmm....

Isn't self-doubt annoying? :laughing:

Telas, on 18 February 2010 - 03:23 PM, said:

Recruit GL (tactical)

Noted.

Galayn Lord, on 18 February 2010 - 02:25 PM, said:

Unless I was blocked I think I should still get the info on Ruse.

You only get the info if your action succeeds.

Message for the recently deposed Yuan Shu:

Galayn Lord, on 18 February 2010 - 02:40 PM, said:

@ Grief. I tried my best to muddy up the waters last night and prevent your lynch. Just wasn't anything I could do.....Sorry


Sukul Ankhadu, on 18 February 2010 - 02:48 PM, said:

I choose Directive. That way I can cover as much ground as possible. :p Not sure if I'll have time to use it though.

Next recruit attempt is either Tulas or Spite - I am sure I am higher size than Tulas, well pretty certain, but he could be that guard fellow, so I'm not sure.

I'm saying Spite then for now. Personality: tactical.

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 05:21 PM

With the current actions Gwynn will finally get a successful recruit only to immediately get recruited by Gem, leaving PB as a lone warrior of Liu Zhang :laughing:

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 05:47 PM

This game looks seriously awesome, I'm bummed I died so early. I knew Ruse was a good choice, he's played brilliantly and may at least get me some sort of post-mortem booby prize :laughing: And as bad as I felt for dropping Ruse in hot water, he cant complain about not having a faction AND make himself unrecruitable, lol.

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