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Spite, on 16 February 2010 - 02:04 AM, said:

Well, after a reread and today's events, my bet is that Ruse was Okaros's recruit. That was a decent attempted defence without making it too obvious if that is the case, otherwise I expect it was one of the low posters. Unfortunately, knowing Meanas and Liosan likely started tactical means there is a slim chance Okaros was as well. In other words, recruiting Ruse won't likely succeed, so I will stick with Korbas for now.

Meanas probably saved me with his reveal that recruits get new names, as I was going to go after Korv based on Lu Fan not being named as a warlord.

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Poor Gwynn, constantly guarded by The Dude. Hopefully he'll get recruited into the winning faction as consolation...

Spite, on 16 February 2010 - 03:48 AM, said:

A likely incorrect rundown of where things stand:

There are a few warlords/subs with power greater than one, the list is as follows:

Yaun Shu recruited Liosan night one. Yaun shu is most likely Tulas Shorn, Galayn Lord or Telas.

Yaun Shao likely has a power of three now, with two successful recruits - Meanas and Dong Zhao. If Meanas is to be believed he is Korvalain.

Meanas likely has power greater than two as it is questionable he would post low strength if he had low srength. That part does not serve his new warlord very well unless it is not true.

Okaros. He died day two and his forces have yet to be eliminated, meaning one of the day one recruits was his and is still around.

If we believe that Yaun Shu did recruit a follower of Cao Cao's last night, then Cao Cao must have had a recruit and be one of those with a power of two.

Ma Teng hit a power of two with his recruit of Han Sui. I have no idea who Ma Teng is.

That covers all of the eliminated factions other than Sun Ce, who was the day one lynch and hence did not give anyone a boost in power size.

There may be other subs whithout offensive powers who have hit level two and above. One warlord may have gained a boost in size from rerecruiting Meanas.

Maybe there are still those out there that I can recruit.

Edit: Seeing as it is likely Meanas still has a power of two he would most likely have been recruited by Ma Teng or Yaun Shu.

"That covers all of the eliminated factions other than Sun Ce" -> it does?

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 16 February 2010 - 03:52 AM

[HoosierDaddy]

Lu Boba Fett wins. Game over.

[alt146]

I like The Dude's plan of just constantly guarding Spite, if he isnt lynched he'll be untouchable at night come end-game. Force the tie oh honourable minion of mine!

And sorry again for dropping you in a shitty situation

[Tapper]

Damn, day 4, 10 alive, only 16 pages?

[Path-Shaper]

Gwynn adjusts her thinking:

Spite, on 16 February 2010 - 04:23 AM, said:

Nope, I counted Cao Cao's recruit twice. Living this close to the Holland Heineken House is not doing good things to my liver.

Sun Ce, Yang Feng, Liu Biao and Gongsun Du. Tao Qian and Han Sui. Cao Cao. Seven dead factions.

Sun Ce: Lynch
Liosan: Recruited by Yaun Shu
Meanas: Recruited by Yaun Shao (and Ma Teng or Yaun Shu)?
Cao Cao: NK
Cao Cao's recruit/Dong Zhao
Han Sui/Ma Teng's recruit
Okaros's recruit (Ruse)

Seven dead factions.

Shinrei is having fun:

Tulas Shorn, on 16 February 2010 - 05:00 AM, said:

Guard...Galayn Lord


That reveal was fun. Some half-truth sprinkles and happily trying to throw Meanas and Korv to the wolves simultaneously. The timeline lie masks the lack of possibility that meanas and I could be on the same team, when it fact that shouldn't be possible if we both got pulled away on night 3.

Noted.

PB makes a change:

Meanas, on 16 February 2010 - 05:23 AM, said:

New Orders, because Tulas showed some reason, suddenly and may actually be on my team.

Kill Korbas

Definitely not on my team.

Noted.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 16 February 2010 - 01:08 PM

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Just a thought...Ruse should have been promoted to garrison commander, but the half day scene didn't seem to give any indication of that.

Also, I don't know what to call Galayn Lord after his recruitment...

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Path-Shaper, on 16 February 2010 - 01:22 PM, said:

Just a thought...Ruse should have been promoted to garrison commander, but the half day scene didn't seem to give any indication of that.

Also, I don't know what to call Galayn Lord after his recruitment...

D'rek here, I'll resolve it (figured it would go to the last second today). And no, Ruse was still level 3 today, but his actions will make him level 4 tonight so he shows as level 4 in some of the NA Night 4 resolutions, but you can see his first one is 3.

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Korbas, on 16 February 2010 - 02:07 PM, said:

Offensive.

Korbas, on 16 February 2010 - 02:10 PM, said:

In fact, make that tactical, to help defend him from NKs.

Korbas, on 16 February 2010 - 02:18 PM, said:

Starting to be paranoid that someone has stolen omtose from me.

If he had, he may have revealed me by now, or may be waiting until tommorow.

I don't want to risk wasting a recruit by trying to re-recruit him a night though.

Damn.

Won't count because the lynch had already occured.

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Ruse, on 16 February 2010 - 04:55 PM, said:

OK spite is now a non factor- he cant vig me ( if he is one,) hopefully he is nothing. Time to move onto bigger fish.

Guard Sukul Ankadu

I have a feeling he is leader of Meanas and Omtose. Hopefully he didnt get anyone last night.

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alt146, on 16 February 2010 - 09:44 AM, said:

I like The Dude's plan of just constantly guarding Spite, if he isnt lynched he'll be untouchable at night come end-game. Force the tie oh honourable minion of mine!

And sorry again for dropping you in a shitty situation

Even if he can't win, he can still last until he's one of the last 3 factions and thus get Han Xuan and Huang Zhong's names to continue in the next games. For the glory, if not the win!

[Path-Shaper]

Grief goes for the Enlister

Korbas, on 16 February 2010 - 05:13 PM, said:

Well, I reckon game is pretty near, if not in, the endgame.
Heal could be handy, except my main fear is recruits, and I doubt i'll have time to be promoted again,

So, i'll go for enlist troops.

Okay. Like recruit, you can choose this ability any time in the day before the night it occurs. And since it's a friendly action, remember it is resolved before hostile ones, even subordinates'.

Korbas, on 16 February 2010 - 05:26 PM, said:

Good.

Provisional for tonight:

I will enlist troops to my own army(if it's not allowed, GLs) and recruit Tulas.

You can use it on yourself, so noted for that and the recruit.

Korbas, on 16 February 2010 - 05:29 PM, said:

Awesome.

Sukul Ankhadu, on 16 February 2010 - 05:21 PM, said:

Wait, I didn't have to state personalty just to be able to recruit right - I have had Ruse as target all weekend.

No you didn't - not stating personality just means I go with the arbitrarily-determined default one. Your action was still processed.

Sukul Ankhadu, on 16 February 2010 - 05:29 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 16 February 2010 - 05:26 PM, said:

Sukul Ankhadu, on 16 February 2010 - 05:21 PM, said:

Wait, I didn't have to state personalty just to be able to recruit right - I have had Ruse as target all weekend.

No you didn't - not stating personality just means I go with the arbitrarily-determined default one. Your action was still processed.

Alright, that means Ruse is level 3 defensive, if I am getting the rules correctly. Hmm. At least he's not lvl 3 anymore. Darnit though. I really needed a break after the stupid blunder on the first day.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 16 February 2010 - 05:33 PM

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Telas, on 16 February 2010 - 05:28 PM, said:

ok so i have a killer now

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Sukul Ankhadu, on 16 February 2010 - 05:35 PM, said:

Dammit! as Jack Bauer would have said. I think I just lost the game. My poor subs.

Sukul Ankhadu, on 16 February 2010 - 06:02 PM, said:

Next recruit attempt: Korbas Personality: offensive.

noted

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 16 February 2010 - 06:08 PM

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Path-Shaper, on 16 February 2010 - 04:59 PM, said:

Ruse, on 16 February 2010 - 04:55 PM, said:

OK spite is now a non factor- he cant vig me ( if he is one,) hopefully he is nothing. Time to move onto bigger fish.

Guard Sukul Ankadu

I have a feeling he is leader of Meanas and Omtose. Hopefully he didnt get anyone last night.

This is very good reading of the game by The Dude - Omtose is no longer Sukul Ankhadu's subordinate, of course, but until very recently this would have been spot on.

Regarding the overall situation of the game, Omtose could expose Korbas and Sukul Ankhadu now if he wanted. Seems like the right way to go - revealing Korbas would get him lynched instantly because he's Yuan Shou, which would pretty much guarantee placement of Zhang Ji's faction in the final three. Of course, if he keeps quiet then Korbas is going to steal Tulas Shorn tonight and suddenly the tables are turned.


Sir Thursday

[Path-Shaper]

This is a good call by Grief:

Korbas, on 16 February 2010 - 06:33 PM, said:

Actually, being offensive, there isn't anyone in the game I can't recruit, since the only other level 4 is defensive.

So, i'll enlist troops to GL, and recruit Tulas still.

Noted.

Galayn Lord, on 16 February 2010 - 06:37 PM, said:

can you tell me how I use this. Do I choose a target for a find?

If so I choose Ruse

That's correct. If you want you can submit orders for Day 6 as well.

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Galayn Lord, on 16 February 2010 - 06:46 PM, said:

OK.....Tulas for day six...thank you.

Noted.

[Path-Shaper]

Some more in-depth thoughts from The Dude:

Ruse, on 16 February 2010 - 06:48 PM, said:

ok after catching up and Digesting here are my thoughts:

Yuan Shu is Either Korbas or Omtose. I am Guessing Korbas. His subordinates are Tulas and Gaylord( maybe Sukul).

Yuan Shao is Telas and his subordinate is Meanas

The rest are unaligned at this point. Yuan Shao might have one other subordinate, if he does it's probably spite.


There you go. Laugh away.

I am pretty confident though tha Shu is Korbas or Omtose, and it's gonna be the person that has the most resistance to getting lynched.

He's pretty close, although he's completely forgotten about Zhang Ji's faction and Tulas Shorn is in the wrong place. But if you substitute Sukul Ankhadu for Telas, everything else in this post is correct. Nice deduction skills!

Sir Thursday

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Korbas, on 16 February 2010 - 07:01 PM, said:

And tactical again please.

Also noted.

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Ruse, on 16 February 2010 - 07:17 PM, said:

Well, this might be a mistake as, i could be lowering myself on the list, but i need to chnge my NA

I am pretty sure that Telas is Meanas's leader aka Yuan Shao. I can't have him recruiting again. I know he is lower in rank than me so my action will go through on nyone that isn't Yuan Shu ( And would even work on him if he is Tactical) soooo...

Use NA Guard on Telas.

I think its the only way to keep Yuan Shao from getting bigger and i really really hope we lynch Yuan Shu today

Noted.

[Morgoth]

hah, I feel really stupid now. I always suck at leading a cult as I always get myself lynched. This time, I thought, it was time to change and show that I am actually capable of doing a decent Gavin routine.

Imagine how stupid I felt when I realized somewhere during the week-end that the most likely scenario was for everyone to start equal.