[Hood's Path]

errrr i told everyone last night i think who i was going to guard. Or at least i/you definitely told everyone that i was a guard and i think i made it fairly obvious who i was going to target.

[Kalse]

Hood, on 25 January 2010 - 05:12 PM, said:

Gam cant have been consort night 1 and an assistant.

Why are we believing Gamelon with no questioning? He says he was consort night one, but the one person he says was king is conveniently dead. I am not saying I don't believe Gamelon, but just blindly believing everybody who says their role is kinda silly imo. We need to account for all possibilities. Do i think Gamelon is the master.. no. But I don't think we can discount the fact he could be the apprentice just because he says he was consort night one with no verification from a known inno.

Question, Gamelon why, if you are inno are you choosing the consort card? That just gives scum another chance to grab a power card... while you wait for a pick the next day. I know I have been choosing cards I don't want the scum to have ie. guard/heal/vig. Those are our weapons against the scum. Choosing consort just gives them a free night where you can do nothing as I think it's safe to say that no one is going to be choosing the king past day 2 or 3. Curious play.

@Whoever the guard is... please don't say on thread who you are going to guard.. it just gives the scum more info than necessary and an easy decision on whether they excercise the option to use their card or not.

[Hood's Path]

Well for one, i had King at the top of my list on day 1, but i got Heal (second on my list) which to me makes it very plausible that Emur was the king ashe was right before me in the pecking order.

I can think of 2 reasons to choose consort, one is because you know that king will get picked and consort at least gives you a chance to pick first the next day.
The other is to keep the consort card away from the master. As as far as i can work out if the Master got consort and killed the king every night then he would always get first pick as i said before. If used correctly in conjunction with another card from the Apprentice you could guarantee your apprentice getting first pick every day. I didnt go into that detail earlier when it might have been a threat but with Gamelon always going for consort and me not thinking hes the master id say we can block it atm .

[Mockra]

Kalse, on 25 January 2010 - 07:12 PM, said:

Hood, on 25 January 2010 - 05:12 PM, said:

Gam cant have been consort night 1 and an assistant.

Why are we believing Gamelon with no questioning?

I think its because he figured out the seating order, based primarily on who was king and that lends credence to him being consort. Since he gets to see how far away the king sits away.

[Mockra]

well shit, I'll check back later, I suppose

[Hood's Path]

Ok im off soon, but as my my reckoning from the last PS post day times out at half 2 i should be awake bfore then and will probably be on (albeit drunk) when i get back anyway, so i think il leave off the vote for now in case of a scum mayor (if its an inno mayor and you used it on me then you're an idiot)

[Hood's Path]

Damnit Mockra we need to stop posting at the same time!!!

[Kalse]

Ok that makes sense. I think it's still silly to think the King would be in play though. At this stage in the game who is willing to waste a night and give scum an extra chance to pick an important card. I know Consort is low on my list.

[Hood's Path]

errr i did every night so far apart from the last when i knew i wouldnt get it Now i think its possible if people are very sure of who's scum then using Gams "helpful" diagrams they can work out if getting the king themselves would strip their scum suspects of good cards

EDIT our=/= are :S

This post has been edited by Hood's Path: 25 January 2010 - 08:25 PM

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 5. 14 hours, 59 minutes remain.
7 Players still alive: Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kalse, Mockra, Osseric, Serc, Thyrllan

4 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kalse, Mockra, Osseric, Serc, Thyrllan

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 25 January 2010 - 10:29 PM

[Gamelon]

Kalse, on 25 January 2010 - 07:12 PM, said:

Hood, on 25 January 2010 - 05:12 PM, said:

Gam cant have been consort night 1 and an assistant.

Why are we believing Gamelon with no questioning? He says he was consort night one, but the one person he says was king is conveniently dead. I am not saying I don't believe Gamelon, but just blindly believing everybody who says their role is kinda silly imo. We need to account for all possibilities. Do i think Gamelon is the master.. no. But I don't think we can discount the fact he could be the apprentice just because he says he was consort night one with no verification from a known inno.

Question, Gamelon why, if you are inno are you choosing the consort card? That just gives scum another chance to grab a power card... while you wait for a pick the next day. I know I have been choosing cards I don't want the scum to have ie. guard/heal/vig. Those are our weapons against the scum. Choosing consort just gives them a free night where you can do nothing as I think it's safe to say that no one is going to be choosing the king past day 2 or 3. Curious play.

@Whoever the guard is... please don't say on thread who you are going to guard.. it just gives the scum more info than necessary and an easy decision on whether they excercise the option to use their card or not.

Whoever has guard now shouldn't say anything now but should say after-the-fact so we know who has been tested and thus the next person to get guard doesn't test the same potential master twice.

Hood, on 25 January 2010 - 07:29 PM, said:

Well for one, i had King at the top of my list on day 1, but i got Heal (second on my list) which to me makes it very plausible that Emur was the king ashe was right before me in the pecking order.

I can think of 2 reasons to choose consort, one is because you know that king will get picked and consort at least gives you a chance to pick first the next day.
The other is to keep the consort card away from the master. As as far as i can work out if the Master got consort and killed the king every night then he would always get first pick as i said before. If used correctly in conjunction with another card from the Apprentice you could guarantee your apprentice getting first pick every day. I didnt go into that detail earlier when it might have been a threat but with Gamelon always going for consort and me not thinking hes the master id say we can block it atm .

Doesn't work that way. Consort finds out who has the King at the end of night, at which point it is too late to do anything about the king and you wouldn't know who's going to take the king next.

I chose to consistently take the consort card because every night it reveals to me someone who was not likely to be the assistant the previous night (or likely to be so if there was a different kill pattern), as well as helps me figure out the table order and who picked first every round, which in turn helps me a lot with figuring out who's lying about what cards they'd have as it'd be really weird if the 2nd person to get a card claims they had socialite that day...

[Osseric]

Ok, since half of you whined about my post count, I would like to point out that I was in the top group of posters before Friday and the weekend sucked me away. I missed the Barg lynch and the subsequent discussions, so quit your bitchin' about how jealous you are that I have a life on weekends.

At the moment, my considerations are two-fold. Trying to view things WCS, as well as trying to seperate the wheat from the chaff.

My instinct tells me that despite all the permutations the cards could potentially be giving us, the simplest explanation is probably closest to the truth. The guards on HP and Mockra tell us something, and the fact that a kill happened again with Mockra guarded makes me feel like the first guard on HP is more intially significant.


Now, HP has come out with a researched case on Thyr. Given that I'm already suspicious, this strikes me as a deflection of attention. Also, up until now Thyr has left me with the impression that he is inno. That being said, there may be something to that case and a possible Thyr/Kalse connection as HP suggests.


And for the record, I'll find it hard to believe if I get to SH and find out that Bargy wasn't an apprentice. Some of the things he said prior to his lynch were pretty darn scummy. His claims of "if I was inno, why would I admit to having the lynch card" for one thing.

[Hood's Path]

So what your saying is you used to post a lot so that ok, you think im possibly scum but my case is possibly right but also Bargh was probably n apprentice.

Exactly how middle of the road do you want to get, with that post youve basically tried to say you believe in all of the current cases, even though half of them are pretty much mutually exclusive.

I wasnt that sure of you before and my money was firmly on Thyrllan as master ( who hasnt actually come off as inno imo, hess come off as someone who hasnt had any attention all game, which is quite often scum)

[Gamelon]

Well I'm not thoroughly convinced of anyone's guilt right now, but HP being guarded day 2 during Alk's vig is still outstanding, and on the other hand i didn't get a result last night, but HP says he had guard and didn't guard me. Could be that no one had the King, but it's more to go on than anyone else and I still don't like the way HP is playing with lots of deflection that sort of comes out of nowhere onto people he hadn't previously mentioned much at all. So my vote stays on HP for today.

vote Hood's Path

[Gamelon]

and that'd be it for me for today. Going to bed soon so I don't think I'll be on at deadline (thats in like 7 hours?).

[Hood's Path]

im moving onto Thyrllan and Kalse because Mockra (who i had been previously going for) couldnt possibly be the master if weve already lost an apprentice (likely). So that leaves me finding new avenues and i actually think the Thyrllan, Kalse scenarion might be quite likely, though im having second thoughts after that ridiculously middle of the road post by Osseric. I know he could be a new inno trying to stay on peoples good side so he survives but that sort of play is not good for us.

[Hood's Path]

il be on for a bit more before i decide to go to sleep, if anyone wants to discuss somethiing

[Hood's Path]

ok apparently not. Im off to sleep now so im going to leave a vote for thyrllan. Its a toss up between him and Osseric but i have trouble believing the master would be as stupid as Osserics last post (probably a flaw of mine assuming the scum are fairly intelligent :S )

Vote Thyrllan

[Osseric]

FFS,

Brush up your reading skills HP.

Let me spell it out in simple short sentences.

You are my top suspect, because of the guard situation.

But if you are not scum, then what you said about Thyr is worth a look.

Was that too fast for you?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 5. 8 hours, 24 minutes remain.
7 Players still alive: Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kalse, Mockra, Osseric, Serc, Thyrllan

4 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Thyrllan ( Hood's Path )
1 Vote for Hood's Path ( Gamelon )

Players not voted: Kalse, Mockra, Osseric, Serc, Thyrllan

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 26 January 2010 - 05:06 AM