[Hood's Path]

Hmmm guess noones around over the weekend?

[Hood's Path]

im getting lonely now! why will noone talk to me!!

[Path-Shaper]

That's the weekend for ya =(

[Hood's Path]

[Gamelon]

[Path-Shaper]

The cards have been dealt.

[Mockra]

Ok, I really think HP is the master. But I am going to hold off voting until tomorrow. I want to do a re-read of Osseric. It seems obvious to me that Serc was Bargy's partner, so I would be willing to vote for him. Anyway, I'll check back later.

[Gamelon]

I don't even know what day it is anymore...

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 5. 30 hours left in the day. The clock has started again.

7 Players still alive: Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kalse, Mockra, Osseric, Serc, Thyrllan

4 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kalse, Mockra, Osseric, Serc, Thyrllan

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PB here heading to bed. Hope everyone enjoyed football this weekend (I suspect Obdi hated it and HD loved it).

[Hood's Path]

Ok right now im definitely thinking that Mockra is probably the way to go due to having reduced kills on 2 nights that he was guarded (i know for sure about last night, and think i remember someone saying they guarded him the previous night when we had no kills).

The problem i have at the moment is that if we have lost an apprentice already then Mockra definitely isnt the master (could be the other apprentice but thats not as important in this situation)

So im wary about focusing Mockra for reasons that might not work, and letting people get away with a free ride, like Osseric for example who i dont remember really doing anything so far at all. Actually thinking about it most of the people left apart from Serc and Mockra have pretty much had no heat at all from what i remember.

Then there is Gamelons stunt where he basically revealed to scum the entire seating arrangement and who drew the first card, which was monumentally stupid, so right now im trying very hard to work out if he's just a really unsubtle scum (probably apprentice if so) or a confused inno who didnt think. Right now im leaning on him being inno but im by no means sure about it

[Mockra]

So basically you arent sure. After putting together Bargy with Serc (pretty obvious since Serc refused to vote for Bargy, and continued to push for my lynch, by saying D'riss had gaurded me. And now look, Bargy's gone and only one kill). Anyway, putting Serc with Bargy, and looking at who Serc "gaurded" thereby PI ing that person, and I have my scum team. HP, Serc, and Bargy.

I know it could be a fake symp job, but I dont remember HP ever confirming he was gaurded, by saying his card action was blocked. He just kind of ignored it.

Vote Hood's Path

[Hood's Path]

Errr actually if you actually checked you'll see that i said that that night my card got stolen, or at least i was told in the morning that my card was missing which i took to mean thiefed.

Also that night that Serc said he guarded me was another one that we apparently had a reduced kill due to Alkend ( i think) using the vig, so Serc saying he guarded me wasnt PI'ing me at all it was actually pointing fingers at me but we had better suspects at the time.

The more i think about it the more i think that we probably have lost an apprentice (likely on the night the vig was used) and hence you cant be the master.

[Hood's Path]

Ok looking back to when the vig was used, Kaschan and Silchas Ruin were the two that died that night, So as the Guard was used on me, either one of these two was one of the assistants or the healer got lucky. My guess from looking at those two names and what i remember of the thread back then is that the vig was probably used on Kaschan so i think that its quite likely he was one of the assistants.

So now that ive convinced myself were probably working with one master and one assistant (so one kill per night and one vig left) im going to say that i dont think that mockra is the master so im going to give him a pass for now. Likewise with Gamelon, while he could be an assistant with that stunt yesterday i find it very hard to believe that the master would risk himself on such a stupid move.

This leaves the Kalse, Osseric, Thyrllan and Serc. Who i will read up on now.

[Hood's Path]

Ok ive read up a bit on Kalse and if Kaschan was an assistant then i could se Kalse pssiby being his partner from these 2 posts.

Kalse, on 20 January 2010 - 07:57 PM, said:

Well... it's pretty dead. I am wanting to vote Kaschan

his play has been very erratic and very spasstic. I am getting a scum vibe from him.

The one thing I am hesitant to do is vote off posters though, at least Kasch is posting somewhat frequently.

I wouldn't mind a low poster vote off. ( i know I am included in that group).




EDIT: added an "ing" to not sound like more of a moron than i already am lol.

This one basically comes across to me as distancing from Kaschan because hed been acting a bit dodgy, but still sort of trying to deflect away from him.

Kalse, on 20 January 2010 - 08:36 PM, said:

Decided to look over the low posters. As much as I want to vote Kaschan for being psycho, at least he is posting and the only thing I really don't like is his post style. Given the decision of having him versus a low poster around towards end game... i'll take the poster. So after going over them (what little there was) This kinda popped out at me.

Ampelas, on 17 January 2010 - 11:10 PM, said:

Man I am already foggy in my head, does anybody have beer? or bacon? preferably both?

Ampelas, on 18 January 2010 - 05:24 PM, said:

Will be on properly later, see you guys then.

Ampelas, on 19 January 2010 - 10:45 AM, said:

This must be one of the slowest games ever, in the history of mafia. At least we got our cards tho.

Ampelas, on 20 January 2010 - 06:21 PM, said:

Sorry for not being present guys. I'll try to be on later, but otherwise I won't be on in any quantity until sometime tomorrow.

Does this scream to anyone else of just trying to hang around and avoid lynch until there is enough free cards to hide behind?

He doesn't say anything on the 18th, on the 19th: says he will be on "Properly" later. never returns. on the 20th, when he does return, his only input is to comment on slowness...thats it, then he bails. Then he shows up here on the 20th and says he won't be back till later. There have been a ton of low posters this game, but Amp seems to make a point of showing up, and then leaving right away. Of the low posters his stuck out to me the most as trying to hang around and lay low. So until he returns and actually says something constructive and useful

vote ampleas

And here is his next post in the thread where he does move it away from Kaschan onto Ampelas who was an easy target due to being a low poster.

So right now, i dont have much evidence of him being the master but i wouldnt be too adverse to lynching him as a symp suspect. Now im going to check Thyrllan, as i cant see much obvious defense of a master from either Kalse or Kaschan which to me screams thyrllan as hes just been way to off my radar so far.

[Serc]

Well back, firstly i want to say, who the fuck speed lynches someone during the weekend break? Seriously whats wrong with you people? I thought we were getting close to the scum but after seeing 5 people just vote like that, now I am unsure.

[Hood's Path]

Thank you for that, it was enlightnening...

[Serc]

It wasn't meant to be enlightening, it was meant to be why the fuck would people do that?

[Hood's Path]

Ok im just nearing the end of my thyrllan read, il try and collect some of the quotes in a minute, but i think there might be something on the thyrllan as master theory, as he definitely seems to be mostly staying out of the way especially near the start when people were shooting blind and is coming out a bit now when he might have a chance to take the game.

[Hood's Path]

Also after going over the last page in a sober state, i think its fairly safe to assume that Barghast wasnt an assistant due to him being a king at one point and the assistants still getting a kill (if Gam is telling the truth) ok now to collect Thyr quotes.

[Hood's Path]

Ok heres some of thyrllans posts, im gonna comment in red to make it easier to see

Thyrllan, on 18 January 2010 - 03:05 PM, said:

Hi hi better late to the game than never Let me be the light of the game, but dont focus too much on me haha

Ok heres his first post, yes i know its a joke but sometimes things get through on these off the cuff remarks.

Thyrllan, on 19 January 2010 - 08:22 PM, said:

sorry for lack of posts had login problems on work comp, stupid firewalls.

Just been catching up on the thread and alot of people seem to be changing there minds alot, therefore im gonna hold off voting for the time being to see how things play out.

Most of his early stuff is similar to this in sorry i havent been on, but im now not sure, so it does look to me like he was possibly trying to keep his head down early to avoid doing anything stupid.

Thyrllan, on 20 January 2010 - 09:48 PM, said:

Im sorry for the low post count guys im not able to log oin at work, stupid firewall lol

Im not going to defend the vote against me by Silchas as i completely agree that the low posters should be voted off. i agree with Kalse vote on ampleas as there posts are random as hell.

what i think is only revealing a little like whos sitting where, i dont think revealing cards is the right thing to do yet. as that can potentially give the assistants targets.

im going to vote Ampleas

for the same reason as Kalse because his posts make no snese in the fact that hes jumping in saying random stuff then vanishing.

oh and ill hopefully be able to get on more tomorrow

Ok i included this one as its struck me as remarkebly similar to the post from Kalse about wanting to go for low posters so could possibly be a signal to Kalse that hes marked him as his symp.

Thyrllan, on 21 January 2010 - 03:42 PM, said:

woo cleared the firewall lol

I must say that with the low posters (me included) we do need to try and get on more, right now i dont have much to add in critisism (sp?) but i thought it was abit harsh of Bargy voting for Alkend because hes in a mood.

Barghast said:

Ok as there is a lot of players being low posters I agree we should lynch them as it in a nice easy area for scum to hide.

Vote Alkend

which makes me think that a high poster could perhaps be and assistant and Bargy is trying to throw people off the scent of himself or even the other assistant. to me this looks suspicious therefore im gonna

Vote Barghast

This along with some others ive included as its some very poor reasoning for voting imo and at that point hes just totally turned round from what he said in the last quote (about 18 hours ago i think) and at this point i think he was still a low poster , as was Kalse.

Thyrllan, on 22 January 2010 - 01:32 PM, said:

D'riss is looking weird now ive had abit of a re-read on the thread.

Quote

Posted 20 January 2010 - 01:05 AM

Two things that stood out to me:

1) Silchas - seems a bit eager to get everyone sharing, and I don't like it, especially considering people change places and the King changes everyday, so any attempt to manipulate the cards will fail, and scum will be able to get a better read on the game.

2) Kaschan's vote on Mockra. It was supposed to be a random feeler vote to kickstart something, but he goes for the person who voted for his fake master, and he died that night. I dunno what to make of it, but it stinks.

both Silchas and Kaschan are now dead, so this looks a little suspicious.

on day 1 i had the place swap and swapped with Bargy

day 2 i had Target finder and Kalse was my target he targeted no-one so either hes inno OR he or i was guarded anyone confirm guard on day 2?

Im back in doubt now about a couple things but ima let the game play a little more before i disclose my feelings.

Spreading a bit of Wifom about the kills and doing a bit of trying to clear Kalse (which he then continues to do until i point out that his logic is flawed)

Thyrllan, on 22 January 2010 - 01:35 PM, said:

ive just read what i said about Kalse when i used Target finder, so if Serc used Guard on HP then Kalse must be an Inno. others agree?

See here for more of trying to PI Kalse. Although if i do believe that he had the target finder and Kalse did target noone then Kalse is definitely a possible Assistant as they are one of the roles which would come up as a no target, especially as that night the guard was used on me.


After this quotes theres a bit of stuff about Serc and Barghast lying about seating positions which could be an attempt to sow confusion but not a lot else. So in my mind i think that Thyrllan is the master with Kalse as a symp and as such im going to

Vote Thyrllan