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Ok, I see we have some actual conclusions on thread about card use. It seems we operating on the assumption that the deaths last night were scum kills, i.e. taking Alkend and Bargy at face value for the moment.
@Thyr, some people have mentioned that stating seating arrangements isn't necessarily a good idea and I agree.
As for the current votes, I'm not sure I've got much of a scum read on anybody. So much discussion has been about the cards, which is a legitimate to try to work out where scum might be, but no one has been pushed at any point. Has anyone even reached more than 2 or 3 votes in this game yet?
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Posted 21 January 2010 - 02:36 AM
The cards certainly present a good potential path to find the scum. At the moment, that's all we've got though since we don't seem willing to lynch anyone. I for one am not really getting a feeling about anyone, although I thought it was strange that Thyr brought up revealing seat position again despite it making sense that that might not be a good idea.
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Posted 21 January 2010 - 02:52 AM
Well the problem is, if we find one scum from the cards there isn't enough interaction to try and work out who the other scum is.
A couple people only have 4 posts and I'm willing to vote one of them I guess becuase they aren't contributing but well I'm not sure how much thats going to tell us.
A couple people only have 4 posts and I'm willing to vote one of them I guess becuase they aren't contributing but well I'm not sure how much thats going to tell us.
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Posted 21 January 2010 - 03:01 AM
On card reveals, yeah guard probably shouldn't reveal unless something notable happens with the kills to make it suspect that his guard had hit scum. I actually think that maybe the card-finder should consider targetting the Thief each night, as if the Thief targets the Bomber than the card-finder will get no result and that'll indicate the possibility of Thief suicide (and if there's still 2 kills than a scum kill may have failed).
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Posted 21 January 2010 - 03:05 AM
Silchas Ruin, on 20 January 2010 - 04:58 PM, said:
Alkend, on 20 January 2010 - 04:50 PM, said:
All right, I've barely been able to play, and this'll be the only post I'll make for at least six hours.
FWIW, I'm going to simply tell what cards I've gotten after Day starts - it's not a Role, so reveals are very, very different in this game. First Night, I received the Bomb, so neither death was a result of an attempted Steal.
FWIW, I'm going to simply tell what cards I've gotten after Day starts - it's not a Role, so reveals are very, very different in this game. First Night, I received the Bomb, so neither death was a result of an attempted Steal.
How do would you know if the thief had targetted you or not?
Ah ... I hadn't thought of it from that direction. FWIW, I was not notified of whether or not there was a steal attempt. But the odds seem rather low that one of the deaths was a Thief.
As far as voting, I'm not inclined to vote for lower posters even at this point, since I'm very much in that crowd. Of course, I had to go for another ten hours without electricity today ...
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Posted 21 January 2010 - 03:12 AM
Alkend, on 21 January 2010 - 03:05 AM, said:
Silchas Ruin, on 20 January 2010 - 04:58 PM, said:
Alkend, on 20 January 2010 - 04:50 PM, said:
All right, I've barely been able to play, and this'll be the only post I'll make for at least six hours.
FWIW, I'm going to simply tell what cards I've gotten after Day starts - it's not a Role, so reveals are very, very different in this game. First Night, I received the Bomb, so neither death was a result of an attempted Steal.
FWIW, I'm going to simply tell what cards I've gotten after Day starts - it's not a Role, so reveals are very, very different in this game. First Night, I received the Bomb, so neither death was a result of an attempted Steal.
How do would you know if the thief had targetted you or not?
Ah ... I hadn't thought of it from that direction. FWIW, I was not notified of whether or not there was a steal attempt. But the odds seem rather low that one of the deaths was a Thief.
As far as voting, I'm not inclined to vote for lower posters even at this point, since I'm very much in that crowd. Of course, I had to go for another ten hours without electricity today ...
Well you've got an opportunity now to break out of that group...
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Posted 21 January 2010 - 03:16 AM
Ok looking back there doesnt seem to be alot to go on really and i am inclined to go for one of the low posters, just to try and spur on the others of them.
Atm looking back, im not sure about Kaschan i always feel iffy about people faking symping as a joke so i wouldnt mind going for him, and the only other person who's giving me a slightly scummy vibe is Barghast which seems to be a combination of him seeming to be trying a bit hard to seem helpful and a few other things i cant quite put my finger on.
But right now, im off and wont be back before day times out so i will put a vote on ampelas, as he is a likely lynch and a possible scum trying to coast under the radar.
Vote Ampelas
Atm looking back, im not sure about Kaschan i always feel iffy about people faking symping as a joke so i wouldnt mind going for him, and the only other person who's giving me a slightly scummy vibe is Barghast which seems to be a combination of him seeming to be trying a bit hard to seem helpful and a few other things i cant quite put my finger on.
But right now, im off and wont be back before day times out so i will put a vote on ampelas, as he is a likely lynch and a possible scum trying to coast under the radar.
Vote Ampelas
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Posted 21 January 2010 - 03:25 AM
so, I really don't see what the big hazard of revealing where everyone is sitting would be? I don't see any particular advantage to it so I'm not endorsing we do so, but I don't really see the big downside either. Even if we knew the entire table layout, you have to know where the king is to make any usefulness of it, but since you only get results at the end of night, the scum will find out where he is too late to kill him before he uses a guard action against them. Nor are the find cards all that great so unlikely the King'd player would pick one of those. All rather pointless one way or another, anyway.
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Posted 21 January 2010 - 03:28 AM
Something else:
Doesn't Heal being after kill make it entirely pointless?
Path-Shaper, on 13 January 2010 - 12:39 PM, said:
Order of Play
During the Day:
-Cards are Dealt
-Steal
During the Night:
-Guard
-Find
-Swap
-Kill
-Heal
During the Day:
-Cards are Dealt
-Steal
During the Night:
-Guard
-Find
-Swap
-Kill
-Heal
Doesn't Heal being after kill make it entirely pointless?
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Posted 21 January 2010 - 04:19 AM
Alright, well I've caught up.
I'm not sure if this is all that useful or not, but Silchas didn't target anyone last night.
As for the cases, it seems a little (ok, very) hypocritical of me to vote off a low poster, but it was bad enough that we didn't get a lynch yesterday, and unless someone makes a big slip, I don't see the train turning around.
The others, well, there isn't really much to them. So I will
Vote Ampelas
I'm not sure if this is all that useful or not, but Silchas didn't target anyone last night.
As for the cases, it seems a little (ok, very) hypocritical of me to vote off a low poster, but it was bad enough that we didn't get a lynch yesterday, and unless someone makes a big slip, I don't see the train turning around.
The others, well, there isn't really much to them. So I will
Vote Ampelas
