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i dont think any main character has died yet in the series from a goodie point of view, and most baddies tend to come back aswell. for those who dont want to know morraine is most likely going to return in the next book as that story originated in 5 so he cant keep it going again can he?? can he?? considering how the tide of darkness supposedly swept over the world before there have been a suprising lack of armies descending upon humanity. surely the dark one would of sent trollocs in their millions down by now, and 3 farmboys aginst th dark one, its pretty weak on evils part.
maybe thats why its takin so long as no major charcter ever dies.
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Posted 23 February 2004 - 05:25 AM
#202 Guest_Itkovian84_*
Posted 16 July 2005 - 05:31 PM
eh my thoughts on Jordan are summed up perfectly in that idiots post.....bah horrid drivel.
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quote:Originally posted by Rich the Great:
Maybe he's a member of a secret sect trained by RJ to hunt down anyone bad-mouthing him even slightly. Maybe.
#203 Guest_Caldazar_*
Posted 04 February 2004 - 02:44 AM
It's been done.
Seems to me Martin fans that are anti Jordan assume Martin shares their feelings.
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Jordayne of the Tor, a golden quill on a field of green. Is it the man or the story you do not like?
Why do you assume this is a criticism? I don't include homages to writers I dislike, believe me. And there are another dozen besides that one, if you can spot 'em.
Seems to me Martin fans that are anti Jordan assume Martin shares their feelings.
#204 Guest_Dark Daze_*
Posted 05 February 2004 - 01:55 PM
@Rallick: In any event, it seems that Erikson owes as much or more to the fantasy books he didn't completely like. His interviews make it pretty clear that he is reacting to them and trying to create something that addressess the things he doesn't like about them. It would be interesting to find out which books he is talking about. WOT books are a good canidate since there is a good chance that Erikson has read them.
#206 Guest_Dark Daze_*
Posted 03 February 2004 - 01:18 PM
Without WOT, would there have been ASOIAF and Malazan: Tales of the Fallen?
#207 Guest_cjd262e_*
Posted 10 June 2005 - 07:58 PM
I think I figured out the hatred for Crossroads. It's because people had to wait so long for it and then it did nothing to further the story. I'm still fairly patient with the whole Jordan series because I started it at the end of 03.
However, I could see that I would be frustrated if I had started reading it back in 1948
when the series originally started. I didn't really think it was that bad of a read. I do agree with Yellow, I liked "New Spring" a lot. I found it refreshing because I wasn't always wondering how the **** he was going to tie up everything he has going on. I just read it for the sake of reading it as opposed to almost pressing for something big to happen. I'm actually looking forward to reading the other prequels, that are supposed to focus on Tam finding Rand, etc.
However, I could see that I would be frustrated if I had started reading it back in 1948
when the series originally started. I didn't really think it was that bad of a read. I do agree with Yellow, I liked "New Spring" a lot. I found it refreshing because I wasn't always wondering how the **** he was going to tie up everything he has going on. I just read it for the sake of reading it as opposed to almost pressing for something big to happen. I'm actually looking forward to reading the other prequels, that are supposed to focus on Tam finding Rand, etc.
#208 Guest_Edge_*
Posted 05 February 2004 - 12:00 PM
My thoughts on WoT are well known. 
As for Martin being a fan of Jordan's I'm not so sure. The ASoIaF story in Legends 2 features a woman who regularly tugs her braid. A subtle dig at Jordan surely?
"Boromir" he quipped "the chances of you getting your hands on this ring are about as high as the ankle socks on a very small beetle that's crouching in a ditch... in a quarry... in the Low countries"
The Lord of the Rings as written by Blackadder
As for Martin being a fan of Jordan's I'm not so sure. The ASoIaF story in Legends 2 features a woman who regularly tugs her braid. A subtle dig at Jordan surely?
"Boromir" he quipped "the chances of you getting your hands on this ring are about as high as the ankle socks on a very small beetle that's crouching in a ditch... in a quarry... in the Low countries"
The Lord of the Rings as written by Blackadder
#209 Guest_Rallick Nom_*
Posted 03 February 2004 - 05:49 PM
Would there have been a MBotF without WoT? Erikson has never said Jordan influenced him, and I doubt he's read the series. And the genre was popular before the series came out and hasn't become noticeably more popular since. So, I'm thinking yes.
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Posted 03 February 2004 - 11:28 AM
Mixed feelings, mate. Great in places (Shadar Logoth, the Ways), utter garbage in others (all of book 10).
Quite simply, a grumpy old man.
Quite simply, a grumpy old man.
Grumpy is only my middle name.
#211 Guest_allwilldie_*
Posted 18 February 2004 - 01:26 PM
no. Jordan has said it should end about book thirteen, but this could easily change.
Just finished: Aross the Nightingale Floor, Lian Hearn 5/10
Just finished: Aross the Nightingale Floor, Lian Hearn 5/10
#212 Guest_ThreeHeadedDragon_*
Posted 21 February 2004 - 03:08 PM
I read all the books of WoT including CoT, but know I have given up, I will not pick another book by him even if it wins a Hugo award.
The most horrible thing for me is that I am very lousy to remember names, I categorize people by their idiosyncrasies and behaviors instead. So by the end, since all the women in his book and their mother spend their time tugging their braids, strightening their dresses and berating their men, I had no clue what was going on and soon thereafter I stopped caring.
The most horrible thing for me is that I am very lousy to remember names, I categorize people by their idiosyncrasies and behaviors instead. So by the end, since all the women in his book and their mother spend their time tugging their braids, strightening their dresses and berating their men, I had no clue what was going on and soon thereafter I stopped caring.
#214 Guest_Duiker_*
Posted 19 February 2004 - 03:51 PM
Okay, I haven't read anything by R. Jordan but I happened to see these video fragments of an interview with him. And, frankly, I laughed my ass off! After all the bitching on the internet (which may or may not be justified, I don't know) this was really shocking.
The man acts like a defendant in a criminal court!
As if he is on a Holy Mission or something, invoking God's help and all.
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Man's the measure of all things
The man acts like a defendant in a criminal court!
As if he is on a Holy Mission or something, invoking God's help and all.
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Man's the measure of all things
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Posted 09 February 2004 - 06:27 AM
For my tuppence worth...Someone needs to give Mr Jordan a good shaking and tell him to get to the bleedin' point!
Someone else, that is. He's bigger than me.
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#217 Guest_Dark Daze_*
Posted 08 February 2004 - 11:34 PM
Sigourney Weaver just called. She wants her movie back.
Anyway, I didn't make that up. Just list to Caldazar. Last I heard Jordan had him selling prologues at the airport. Beware of the Jordan cult Rallick. Call up Adrian Paul or some other french Canadian, because if they don't kick your ass they'll lower your IQ by at least 10 points.
Anyway, I didn't make that up. Just list to Caldazar. Last I heard Jordan had him selling prologues at the airport. Beware of the Jordan cult Rallick. Call up Adrian Paul or some other french Canadian, because if they don't kick your ass they'll lower your IQ by at least 10 points.
#218 Guest_Dark Daze_*
Posted 17 July 2005 - 04:49 PM
Wouldn't it be even more ironic if you were Jordan? Or even more ironic than that if I were? Wait, stop. Does anyone else hear the theme to the Twilight Zone?
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#219 Guest_Rallick Nom_*
Posted 21 February 2004 - 08:41 AM
Or, he could actually finish the series and either salvage his reputation with a good ending or have our gratitude for finally stopping the money train...
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 02:26 AM
I felt the same about the first book too. Only lack of anything else to read and my own curiosity made me continue to the next book.
Trollocs = Trolls + Orcs (yawn)
Mat + Perrin = Merry + Pippin
Lan = Aragorn
Moiraine = Gandalf
Dark Lord = Dark Lord
etc...
IMO, 3 is also a bit rubbish, but I really enjoyed all of the rest of them, despite the bad points. Shadow Rising got me HOOKED.
@Gvyn: if you want my advice, force your way through the first one and read the second... if you don't like that one, give them a miss.
Trollocs = Trolls + Orcs (yawn)
Mat + Perrin = Merry + Pippin
Lan = Aragorn
Moiraine = Gandalf
Dark Lord = Dark Lord
etc...
IMO, 3 is also a bit rubbish, but I really enjoyed all of the rest of them, despite the bad points. Shadow Rising got me HOOKED.
@Gvyn: if you want my advice, force your way through the first one and read the second... if you don't like that one, give them a miss.
Don't fuck with the Culture.
