[Shadow]

D, on 05 January 2010 - 10:30 PM, said:

Wow Bubba lovers me too much to make the vote on me count.

Oh and Sil, you're being more paranoid than necessary, which makes me think you're up to something. I'm wondering what part of my crazy theorizing I was right about...

What's your case really about, because it sounds really empty. I think my questions and wondering about the mechanic is absolutely called for, and I'm not afraid to look stupid, which is a healthy sign compared to jumpy, jittery players like you Sil. I want to find UB too, but you have to admit it's kinda hard, so think about strategy is completely natural, which you choose to ignore. However, you just jumped to the first place on my suspicion list. Good job.

vote Silanah

The problem is you keep asking questions that were already answered. You swore that Bubba claimed the hidden mechanic had something to do with voting when he had posted the exact opposite. You have since been wondering about when UB gets to act, which has also been answered:

Bubba, on 04 January 2010 - 09:18 PM, said:

Silanah, on 04 January 2010 - 09:16 PM, said:

D, on 04 January 2010 - 09:07 PM, said:

Kalse, on 04 January 2010 - 08:59 PM, said:

Every 24 hours or every day?

Now you're starting to lose it; every day has 24 hours, remember?

I think the rule is that one person can be silenced every 24 hours and after every lynch. I'm sure I saw that mentioned somewhere.

you are right....per the mod thread. The lynch resets UB's clock. not "and"

And from the mod thread:

Bubba, on 06 November 2009 - 05:52 AM, said:

Just a quick reminder of how the Uncle Ben's Revenge will work Numbers of players is not important.

There is only one role in the game Uncle Ben. Every 24 hours, or after a lynch he silences someone. Silenced players stay in the game. The ONLY way to win is to lynch UB. UB wins if he silences every player still alive. The only way to die is by lynch. If you are lynched you loose end of story. If you are silenced and UB gets lynched you are part of the winning team. How you are silenced will be up to me.....MMUUUHAAA HAAAAAA

There is no reason to be speculating about things that have already been stated in black and white terms, especially when your speculation is based on the mod stating the exact opposite of what was actually said.

[Mockra]

Kalse, on 05 January 2010 - 02:43 PM, said:

well, damn.

At least his last post was OK, he's going to work for a bit, but what the hell?

Kalse, on 05 January 2010 - 02:47 PM, said:

Mockra, on 05 January 2010 - 02:38 PM, said:

Kalse, on 05 January 2010 - 02:31 PM, said:

Mockra, if you're just bashing your keyboard, make a one-line post

If you believe there is any way we have a chance to decypher what you're trying to say, make a very long post.

gb5pwnhwp4tnbwptifwhenhowthereforemaybebt0pbnwt0wnttBentBubbaVengeq21AbyssAptgbo5[bqw[5]qbw-looklosefindkillmakehaveg vpvbp5q[hn tt[hbqn qbnnb-9gbrnpbnq[nbfeeltouchseesenselistenhearwatchb ntp9bq53j0hn-tgrtnrbhrogbvp9bnp5bnwt0bnetheyityouIshehetheirhersmineyoursgby8oph4b[tnwjnt[q5ktjhnbotsleepwakeupliveworkeatdiemakecleant4ugphj5h-]4

gibberish, adverbs, gibberish, forum alts, gibberish, verbs, gibberish, verbs, gibberish, pronouns, gibberish, verbs, gibberish.

How on Earth does he think we can figure it out?

When you come back, Mockra, if you're typing these messages yourself, quote this post and another one of mine. If it's generated for you based on normal text you're writing, quote this post and one of yours.

I'm not sure it's that important at the end to understand him, but it's fun to try

g4bp9h5gt0p:back:gb5uph

[Mockra]

Galain, on 05 January 2010 - 03:11 PM, said:

well a fairly simple code gives
if Bubba find sense he die
that could be right

hwtnhwp'[g[kb4[-bhn:claps:bt9pt08[pghbfv2f9'p


HP59-UYHGPNBVB[VBreplacegivebuyreturntake3phnh[t'snp;9r0-bnra32herheittheysheyounvr-95whbw0nb-[5h[054hnve567qu7qagainstthrougwithatoutinongn0[n]4-bn05n[m 5n5heustheirsIshehishimyoursnv4[0uvh6-bp4[-33bf0



g5bvp9bnbe4:had:gb5[bjn6bvnrvnibt:typo:vbh[0b5gv0[n:sorryz:g0-hbnvcxushpf

This post has been edited by Mockra: 06 January 2010 - 02:55 AM

[Mockra]

Omtose, on 05 January 2010 - 04:25 PM, said:

Back for the majority of the day till lynch.

Not sure what to make of Mockra. Some posts I can almost see a message, others I have no idea. I think Galain hit the last one on the head.. If Bubba can make sense of the post that Mockra makes, he dies. So we basically have to pick from a bunch of words to try and decifer...

That being said, i think we are wasting a lot of time trying to figure out Mockra. I suppose it could be important, but I think we are better served looking for UB....which I am really not sure about. This being my first Ben game I don't have a real good feel for it yet. I am gonna go back and have a read through. See if anything pops.

bg[qn[5]yijnh43 GVPnber4[qjn:nods:og4gh[ph4nnjm[5p;nb

This post has been edited by Mockra: 06 January 2010 - 02:57 AM

[Telas]

Mockra, on 06 January 2010 - 02:55 AM, said:

Galain, on 05 January 2010 - 03:11 PM, said:

well a fairly simple code gives
if Bubba find sense he die
that could be right

hwtnhwp'[g[kb4[-bhn:claps:bt9pt08[pghbfv2f9'p


HP59-UYHGPNBVB[VBreplacegivebuyreturntake3phnh[t'snp;9r0-bnra32herheittheysheyounvr-95whbw0nb-[5h[054hnve567qu7qagainstthrougwithatoutinongn0[n]4-bn05n[m 5n5heustheirsIshehishimyoursnv4[0uvh6-bp4[-33bf0



g5bvp9bnbe4:had:gb5[bjn6bvnrvnibt:typo:vbh[0b5gv0[n:sorryz:g0-hbnvcxushpf

Sorry Mockra, but I am laughing so hard at this post. I cant understan a damn bit of it, except the last line.

Had typo, sorryz!

+ rep to you.

Anyway, I have to go. I'm pretty sure tomorrow will be an easy day at work, snow in the forecast, so I hope to me more active through out the day.

[Shadow]

Mockra, on 06 January 2010 - 02:55 AM, said:

Galain, on 05 January 2010 - 03:11 PM, said:

well a fairly simple code gives
if Bubba find sense he die
that could be right

hwtnhwp'[g[kb4[-bhn:claps:bt9pt08[pghbfv2f9'p


HP59-UYHGPNBVB[VBreplacegivebuyreturntake3phnh[t'snp;9r0-bnra32herheittheysheyounvr-95whbw0nb-[5h[054hnve567qu7qagainstthrougwithatoutinongn0[n]4-bn05n[m 5n5heustheirsIshehishimyoursnv4[0uvh6-bp4[-33bf0



g5bvp9bnbe4:had:gb5[bjn6bvnrvnibt:typo:vbh[0b5gv0[n:sorryz:g0-hbnvcxushpf

So, if Bubba can make sense of your posts you die.

And in the next post, you think we are better off looking for UB than trying to decipher anything you post.

The only issue I have with that is that not spending the time to read meaning into your posts, and your obvious inability to defend yourself easily, is somewhat akin to making you a PI for no other reason than that you were silenced.

[bubba]

going to bed I will be back on in six or seven hrs....

[Shadow]

Well, after thinking about it a bit, Mockra being UB makes sense if he is the one choosing how people are silenced, as it does give them a bit of a free pass. Otherwise silencing himself this early doesn't make too much sense when there have been a few people, myself included, who have pointed out that lynching a silenced alt is better than lynching a not silenced one if we are not certain who to aim for. As it seems Bubba is the one picking how alts are silenced, I doubt UB would take that risk at this point. The same could be said of Tennes, though it is of less value here as if he is UB he could be have been betting on getting something similar to Mockra's silent treatment and further time had gone by with nobody following through on voting out the silenced. It in no way applies to Atrahal, as there was no discussion of whether or not to vote for the silenced before he was silenced.

In short, since there was talk of voting off those who have been silenced on day one, and Mockra was silenced night one, I doubt he is UB.

With most of day one wasted by Tulas, and part of day two wasted by attempts to interpret Mockra's posts, we have less than usual to go on. My opinion is Driss is UB, as speculation about questions that have already been answered and/or based on things opposing statements made by PS/Bubba only serve to limit our chances at finding UB and there is only one person who wants to limit that chance. I will be around for a while so I am not voting him yet, but if nothing more compelling comes up before the lynch I will be voting Driss.

[D'riss]

Not you too, Shadow. Excuse me for being skeptical and trying to think outside of the box. If you want me to shut up, you can just say that you know, this screaming for blood for no reason is totally getting in the way of finding UB.

I hate mafia games where people think about how clever they will look themselves as opposed to actually winning. And I'm not so sure about what Bubba has actually told us. To me speculating is part of the fun in a mafia game, and if you want to stop me from having fun, there's no reason to play at all, really.

Not saying I'm gonna throw in the towel or anything, I'm just moping.

remove vote

I don't really think Sil is UB, he's too whiny for it. I'd say UB is probably somewhere in the middle posting range, because the top or the bottom are too dangerous. Sil fits into that spectrum, but he's sticking his neck out, which UB wouldn't I think. My guess is either of Osseric, Omtose or Serc.

Edit: or possibly Shadow, but I think UB wouldn't be as stupid as that last post.

This post has been edited by D'riss: 06 January 2010 - 04:09 AM

[Shadow]

D, on 06 January 2010 - 04:08 AM, said:

Not you too, Shadow. Excuse me for being skeptical and trying to think outside of the box. If you want me to shut up, you can just say that you know, this screaming for blood for no reason is totally getting in the way of finding UB.

I hate mafia games where people think about how clever they will look themselves as opposed to actually winning. And I'm not so sure about what Bubba has actually told us. To me speculating is part of the fun in a mafia game, and if you want to stop me from having fun, there's no reason to play at all, really.

Not saying I'm gonna throw in the towel or anything, I'm just moping.

remove vote

I don't really think Sil is UB, he's too whiny for it. I'd say UB is probably somewhere in the middle posting range, because the top or the bottom are too dangerous. Sil fits into that spectrum, but he's sticking his neck out, which UB wouldn't I think. My guess is either of Osseric, Omtose or Serc.

Edit: or possibly Shadow, but I think UB wouldn't be as stupid as that last post.

I have no problem with anyone speculating on how the game mechanics work, I do have issues with such speculation ignoring the information given by PS or in the sign-up etc.

[Serc]

D, on 06 January 2010 - 04:08 AM, said:

remove vote

I don't really think Sil is UB, he's too whiny for it. I'd say UB is probably somewhere in the middle posting range, because the top or the bottom are too dangerous. Sil fits into that spectrum, but he's sticking his neck out, which UB wouldn't I think. My guess is either of Osseric, Omtose or Serc.

Edit: or possibly Shadow, but I think UB wouldn't be as stupid as that last post.

There was nothing stupid about Shadow's last post - it was a fairly good summary of things thus far.

You were rather quick to dismiss it.

[Tennes]

jIH 'oH. ta'ta' SoH jIH ?

[Tennes]

D, on 06 January 2010 - 01:17 AM, said:

I think he's trying to say I'm a symp, since he's sure I'm not UB. Then he's saying he need to go to a class but that he will be back. Or something like that.
Basically his reasoning is; he doesn't like me, and since I'm not UB, I must be a symp. I have no idea how he thinks that is even close to being logical.

I realize I need to be less controversial, so that people don't use all their energy and focus on me instead of finding UB, but really these bullshit 'cases' from Sil and and now Tennes are quite annoying - it's like they're magically synced or something.


Edit: grammar

Lei è bugiardo ed una frode.

Ciò è che non ho detto. Non VINCINO!

Vote D'riss

mille maledice!!!


edit: Non VINCINO Molto sbagliato! = è esatto

This post has been edited by Tennes: 06 January 2010 - 05:12 AM

[Serc]

I keep checking back, and no one's here ... there are some serious disadvantages with my time zone. (But only when it comes to Mafia, of course)


Anyways ...



Vote D'riss



There's just something not right about his defensiveness, and continually misunderstanding some clearly defined rules.

[Mockra]

D, on 05 January 2010 - 10:58 PM, said:

Yeah, that sounds about right.

Edit: does that also mean that, at a certain point in the game, we will all be dead if we a certain amount of votes on us? I'm worrying about the end of the game there, it could mean UB just has to get us to votes manically on each other, and then win easily in after a couple of days...

bh[5yhbn5opb[05:wtf:g[thgbvltp5[0

[Shadow]

*wishes he was a linguist*

Tennes, on 06 January 2010 - 05:09 AM, said:

D, on 06 January 2010 - 01:17 AM, said:

I think he's trying to say I'm a symp, since he's sure I'm not UB. Then he's saying he need to go to a class but that he will be back. Or something like that.
Basically his reasoning is; he doesn't like me, and since I'm not UB, I must be a symp. I have no idea how he thinks that is even close to being logical.

I realize I need to be less controversial, so that people don't use all their energy and focus on me instead of finding UB, but really these bullshit 'cases' from Sil and and now Tennes are quite annoying - it's like they're magically synced or something.


Edit: grammar

Lei è bugiardo ed una frode.

Ciò è che non ho detto. Non VINCINO!

Vote D'riss

mille maledice!!!


edit: Non VINCINO Molto sbagliato! = è esatto

(itlalian)

Something alone the lines of:

Driss is deceitful and a liar.

That is not what I said. Very wrong

Tennes, on 06 January 2010 - 05:05 AM, said:

jIH 'oH. ta'ta' SoH jIH ?

Nothing I can make sense of.

Anyway, for the reasons given before, and similar to Serc's

Vote Driss

[Mockra]

Telas, on 06 January 2010 - 12:38 AM, said:

Whew. That was interesting. I gotta admit, I laughed a little while reading Mockras posts, thats gotta be frustrating as hell to try and do. I'm not sure I like his self vote, I mean why go all emo like that, you're silenced, in a game that everyone would be as well for UB to win. Just strikes me as an odd thing to do.

And Eloth, I hate that you left, because I really want you to explain why you said

Eloth, on 05 January 2010 - 11:56 PM, said:

You accuse Galain of being scum for voting Tulas even though he didn't think he was scum. I did not do the exact same thing-because I didn't say that I felt Tulas wasn't scum. I included the possibility he was being forced, but still stand by my vote.

As for leaving afterwards, I came on to vote, because we've had no-lynches quite a lot recently and wanted to avoid that.

when in fact you said

Eloth, on 04 January 2010 - 06:20 PM, said:

Ok.

Vote Tulas Shorn

Because even if he's not UB he's not helping anything at all.

I'm thinking that it is possible that this is the hidden mechanic however, some form of forcing a player to behave in a certain way. Can't tell at the moment, but if it crops up again, certainly worth thinking about.

Sure you qualified it by saying it might be forced, however, you DID say that if he isn't scum, he needs to die anyway. Also, I dont like how you hop on, find the 2 votes against you, drop an OMGUS vote on one person, and then once again scamper off.

Therefore

Keep my vote on Eloth

Tennes, on 05 January 2010 - 06:14 AM, said:

Mockra, is there an actual message in that gibberish?

If "yes", vote for someone. If "no", post more gibberish.

Mockra, on 05 January 2010 - 06:28 AM, said:

remove vote

vote Mockra

[Mockra]

remove vote

gbvtpy9bv:wallbash:gbv[nbvvpbu:sleep:vbpipog5o:bye:btbcvpbuv[bnvb

[Serc]

... hello?

I'm always on when there's no one here.

I know I'm not going to be silenced ... there wouldn't be any point.

[Shadow]

Off for the night sorry.

I am happy with where my vote is now, and should be able to check in before day runs out, so I will leave it there.