[Ruse]

So of Telas Korbas and Sukul I think it's Likely that Omtose was telling the truth.

Korbas= Yuan Shu,


Also think that Since Meanas is an admitted Yuan Shau follower that:

Telas= Yuan Shau


That would make

Sukul= the Third, Lei bei? (sp)


I am thinking that Telas' team is the weakest at the moment, but tonights actions and their outcomes are really going to determine where the game goes. Sukul's team and Korbas' team could team up to kill Telas and fight over me and Meanas. Which would make it 4 vs 4 if they each got a recruit, but as Yuan Shu is a level 4 he has a one day headstart on the other leader and could build his armies quicker.


Alternately, Sukul or Korbas could enlist the help of Telas' team in taking out the other power leader. In which case Telas is in a good position to recruit and become part of the game again.


Or you could just lynch me, but then you would be in the same position tomorrow with some subordinates stolen and everyone revealing everyone's leader.

rofl this is a great game.



lol, this is really fun speculation.

This post has been edited by Ruse: 17 February 2010 - 08:27 PM

[Meanas]

Omtose, on 17 February 2010 - 02:57 AM, said:

Yuan Shu is Korbas

vote Korbas

he recruited me night 2 and lost me night 3

Omtose, on 17 February 2010 - 05:55 AM, said:

lol, I had footy practice, hence the silence

Iknow who Yuan Shao is too. He recruited me night 3, lol. and lost me night 4

oh, and for the record, I was Han Sui. now i'm Ji Ling.

So Omtose says that he was recruited by Yuan Shu night 2, Yuan Shao night 3, and someone else (????) night 4. Liu Bei?

Korbas, on 17 February 2010 - 03:18 PM, said:

Well, that's interesting.

I'm not Yuan Shu.

I suspect Telas is. Omtose was apparently recruited away from me some time ago, yet refrained from mentioning this up until the first post after Telas' post about hoping anyone recruited away from him would reveal?
Hardly surprising he picked me either considering I was already on the table.

If Yuan shu has 2 recruits, and we lynch wrong, then as of tommorow he cannot lose, unless he loses a recruit in the night. His power level is high enough that he can recruit anyone, and so will never fall below a 3 man team. If he has 3 recruits by tommorow(he doesn't lose one tonight) he has half the team as a voting bloc, and will get another each night. The only way to stop him would be if he lost 2 recruits in one night, or one was NK'd.

So, it's d-day, or as close as.

And look at that, 3 votes built up on me, after Telas comments on hoping someone was recruited away, and lo, by perfect coincidence, on comes omtose to state that he was, and just chose not to reveal it until then.

Vote Telas.

Korbas DENIES being Yuan Shu. I KNOW he's not Yuan Shao. He doesn't give any indication as to who he really is. So who is he? Liu Bei?

Ruse, on 17 February 2010 - 05:40 PM, said:

So at this point are we looking at 3 leaders , 2 with 2 recruits and one with one recruit? Thats what I am seeing.

Yuan Shu has 1 for sure
Yuan Shao has 1 for sure
XXXX( Omtose's lead???) has 1 for sure. This is how I see it today (This could all change tomorrow with the stealing mechanic):


Leader 1: Telas Subordinate(s): Meanas

Leader 2: Korbas Subordinate(s): Spite, Tulas( could be other team, just not w/ Meanas)

Leader 3: Sukul/Gaylord Subordinate(s): Sukul/Gaylord, Omtose

Then there is me, the Douchewaffle no one wants. It's possible that Gaylord isn't recruited yet, but seeing as he is the perfect recruit candidate and its day 5...yeah right.


"What about you, Douchewaffle?" you might ask? I was recruited by Okaros on night one. He was then lynched day 2 and I have been in Limbo ever since. Thats why Meanas couldn't recruit me. Thats why i had the mega-poston why we should vote off spite and not Okaros on day 2.

Looking at it from you guy's perspective, Telas and Meanas are really the deciders, The indecision comes from the fact that no on can decide if gaylord, or Sukul are the leader of team 3.

Facts:

Meanas is a recruit-
Tulas is a recruit-
Spite is a recruit-
Omtose is a recruit-
I am a recruit-


That leaves 4 people and 3 of them are leaders. The indecision lies in whether Sukul or Gaylord are the 3rd leader. My money is on Sukul.

Edit: Fixed Format

Ruse, on 17 February 2010 - 07:08 PM, said:

Meanas of Sukul and Gay lord, who do you think is the most likely leader?

So one second I'm Telas's sub, the next I'm Sukul and GL's?

[Meanas]

I also can't reconcile Omtose's claims that he was recruited night 2 by Yuan Shu and is Han Sui, which seems provable, with Tulas's claims of being recruited night 2 by Lu Bu. It does appear only 2 people were recruited night 2, and I was one of them. Tulas has proof he was recruited by Korv at some point, he sold him down the river with accurate information (of course, it's possible Tulas is a tactical sub and 'found' Korv, but I don't know what kind of finder a tactical sub makes).

I can't determine if Yuan Shu or Liu Bei is the bigger threat right now. The scene indicates it is Liu Bei, but Yuan Shu appears to be a very high level. My gut says you have to cull the biggest army, so that makes it Liu Bei.

If Korbas won't admit to being Yuan Shu, does that mean he's admitting to being Lu Bei? He hasn't offered any information about himself other than telling us who he is not. And who is Omtose's mysterious master? If Korbas really is Yuan Shu, then Omtose's master is Lu Bei, it would seem. I don't know of any other possible leaders still left in the game other than Yuan Shu, Yuan Shao, and Lu Bei, according to the day scenes.

[Ruse]

Soooooooooif I was in Vegas and I was a betting man here is my wager!!! I really don't care if you guys argue it, call it BS, w/e its all fun for me at this point as I can't win.

Yuan Shu: Korbas, Subordinate(s) Spite, Tulas Shorn

Yuan Shao: Telas, Subordinate(s) Meanas, Gaylan Lord

Lei Bei(sp): Sukul Ankadu, Subordinate(s) Omtose


Not real confident on the subordinates other than Spite and Meanas. But i really don't care as they will all be switched up after tonight.


We know:

Omtose isn't on Korbas' team.
Meanas and Tulas can't be on the same team.
Omtose and Gaylan Lord can't be on the same team.( Because Omtose was stolen last night and GL was recruited last night)

Again after today, all these become obsolete.

[Ruse]

Meanas, on 17 February 2010 - 08:35 PM, said:

I also can't reconcile Omtose's claims that he was recruited night 2 by Yuan Shu and is Han Sui, which seems provable, with Tulas's claims of being recruited night 2 by Lu Bu. It does appear only 2 people were recruited night 2, and I was one of them. Tulas has proof he was recruited by Korv at some point, he sold him down the river with accurate information (of course, it's possible Tulas is a tactical sub and 'found' Korv, but I don't know what kind of finder a tactical sub makes).

I can't determine if Yuan Shu or Liu Bei is the bigger threat right now. The scene indicates it is Liu Bei, but Yuan Shu appears to be a very high level. My gut says you have to cull the biggest army, so that makes it Liu Bei.

If Korbas won't admit to being Yuan Shu, does that mean he's admitting to being Lu Bei? He hasn't offered any information about himself other than telling us who he is not. And who is Omtose's mysterious master? If Korbas really is Yuan Shu, then Omtose's master is Lu Bei, it would seem. I don't know of any other possible leaders still left in the game other than Yuan Shu, Yuan Shao, and Lu Bei, according to the day scenes.

I don't think there are Meanas. I am not one and everyone else is a recruit on a team. Of course I can say this, becaue I know it. You might have some reservations about believing that.


In regards to what team you are on... I really don't care. You could be on any of the 3's team I'd bet it's Telas' tough. w/e it doesn't matter.

We know who the 3 leaders are.

I suppose GL could have just thrown a red herring and said he was recruited and really be a leader... but based upon his play thus far ( or lack there of), along with his admission early that none of his night moves have gone through ( said back on day 4?) I believe him.

[Galayn Lord]

Ruse. Have you ever been walking down the road, and for no reason your catch you foot on a stone and start to fall, so you try to throw your other foot out and it stubs on the road. And as you start to pitch forward you try and try to bring your feet under you faster and faster as you fall.......?


I'm getting that feeling from your posts right now. That you stumbled and are trying as hard as you can to catch yourself.

Does anyone else get that impression?

It could just be me, but I think you are one of leaders and you just stumbled.

Edit: spelling

This post has been edited by Galayn Lord: 17 February 2010 - 09:20 PM

[Korbas]

Ruse, on 17 February 2010 - 08:07 PM, said:

Well, if what he says is true and he was stolen/recruited last night, then the 3 leaders are Telas, Sukul and Korbas. There ya go, i'll let you factioned people fight it out on who to lynch.

EDIT fixed format and added "Recruited"

Got to think of who it benefits having everyone on thread accept that.

And it assumes no one is lying...

[Meanas]

Korbas, on 17 February 2010 - 10:04 PM, said:

Ruse, on 17 February 2010 - 08:07 PM, said:

Well, if what he says is true and he was stolen/recruited last night, then the 3 leaders are Telas, Sukul and Korbas. There ya go, i'll let you factioned people fight it out on who to lynch.

EDIT fixed format and added "Recruited"

Got to think of who it benefits having everyone on thread accept that.

And it assumes no one is lying...

I think I'm the poster child proof as to why that assumption should pretty much be thrown out of the window lol

[Meanas]

Here's what I think needs to happen:

Korbas, you have to give us some information. You've shown no indication that you are on my team and there's a good chance you are a leader.

I think today's lynch has to be Korbas, or if we can determine he is neither Liu Bei nor Yuan Shu, one of Ruse/Omtose/Tulas because one of those is a bloody lying sack of beans, I think. Since it's most likely that Tulas is a symp, Ruse and Omtose are the next best options.

Just IMO.

[Ruse]

Galayn Lord, on 17 February 2010 - 09:19 PM, said:

Ruse. Have you ever been walking down the road, and for no reason your catch you foot on a stone and start to fall, so you try to throw your other foot out and it stubs on the road. And as you start to pitch forward you try and try to bring your feet under you faster and faster as you fall.......?


I'm getting that feeling from your posts right now. That you stumbled and are trying as hard as you can to catch yourself.

Does anyone else get that impression?

It could just be me, but I think you are one of leaders and you just stumbled.

Edit: spelling

Like I said... I dont care what you think.

vote me off. No one will defend me. I HAVE NO TEAM

Do I think your leader will follow suit? Unlikely, but w/e It will buy everyone another day of deciding wht to do.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 5. 10 hours and 48 minutes remaining
9 Players still alive: Galayn Lord, Korbas, Meanas, Omtose, Ruse, Spite, Sukul Ankhadu, Telas, Tulas Shorn

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ruse ( Galayn Lord )
1 Vote for Omtose ( Spite )
1 Vote for Telas ( Korbas )
1 Vote for Spite ( Sukul Ankhadu )
2 Votes for Korbas ( Omtose, Telas )

Players not voted: Meanas, Ruse, Tulas Shorn

[Korbas]

Meanas, on 17 February 2010 - 10:09 PM, said:

Here's what I think needs to happen:

Korbas, you have to give us some information. You've shown no indication that you are on my team and there's a good chance you are a leader.

I think today's lynch has to be Korbas, or if we can determine he is neither Liu Bei nor Yuan Shu, one of Ruse/Omtose/Tulas because one of those is a bloody lying sack of beans, I think. Since it's most likely that Tulas is a symp, Ruse and Omtose are the next best options.

Just IMO.

How does revealing aid me, considering that it is so unlikely to be believed?

I am an unlikely candidate to be Liu Bei. Lynching me today will most probably give him the game.

[Korbas]

Which brings on the question of why you would push the idea of todays lynch "having" to be me.

You followed Omtose earlier happily enough. A 3 man train, which is an interesting number, since it seems likely to be the number of Liu Beis faction. You followed him on his claim that I was Yuan Shu. And yet now, when it would seem the priority ought to be Liu Bei, you are still going for me?

Rather happy with my vote...

[Ruse]

Meanas, on 17 February 2010 - 10:09 PM, said:

Here's what I think needs to happen:

Korbas, you have to give us some information. You've shown no indication that you are on my team and there's a good chance you are a leader.

I think today's lynch has to be Korbas, or if we can determine he is neither Liu Bei nor Yuan Shu, one of Ruse/Omtose/Tulas because one of those is a bloody lying sack of beans, I think. Since it's most likely that Tulas is a symp, Ruse and Omtose are the next best options.

Just IMO.

I am fine with that. Korbas is a leader. If I am wrong, lynch me tomorrow. But I am right.

vote Korbas

[Korbas]

Oh fantastic...

[Korbas]

You won't have tommorow if you lynch wrong.

[Ruse]

Korbas, on 17 February 2010 - 10:26 PM, said:

Meanas, on 17 February 2010 - 10:09 PM, said:

Here's what I think needs to happen:

Korbas, you have to give us some information. You've shown no indication that you are on my team and there's a good chance you are a leader.

I think today's lynch has to be Korbas, or if we can determine he is neither Liu Bei nor Yuan Shu, one of Ruse/Omtose/Tulas because one of those is a bloody lying sack of beans, I think. Since it's most likely that Tulas is a symp, Ruse and Omtose are the next best options.

Just IMO.

How does revealing aid me, considering that it is so unlikely to be believed?

I am an unlikely candidate to be Liu Bei. Lynching me today will most probably give him the game.

Dammit, he does have a point. If Liu has 2 people, today and he gets another recruit tonight, it's game over

[Ruse]

Remove vote

[Korbas]

And look at that, earlier on, just after Telas made a comment on how handy it would be if someone was recruited away from Yuan Shu, along comes omtose who just so convineintly had, and just hadn't mentioned it in the days he could have. Which resulted in a 3 man train.

Funny isn't it?

Until the mid day scene came along and ruined it for them...

[Ruse]

Korbas, you really think Telas is Liu?? only Meanas could confirm or deny that, as he knows who Yuan Shao is...and you don't see him even looking in that direction. imo the Lynch has to be you or Sukul.