[drinksinbars]

think thats grand, though with harry dead and temp up at +10 me and morgo are winners as well as our voctory condition was met

[Dinivan]

drinksinbars, on 03 December 2009 - 09:35 PM, said:

think thats grand, though with harry dead and temp up at +10 me and morgo are winners as well as our voctory condition was met

sure you are (and me, too. I was also a vampire ) I have edited the OP in the mafia mod thread accordingly, is the entry correct as it is?

Peanutbutta, on 03 December 2009 - 09:35 PM, said:

About to go read spoilers but my final pre-enlightened thoughts are that the Winter Court was never going to win because the Summer Court had the Vampires working with them, essentially, and the Denarians didn't care which court they worked with (meaning it made more sense to work with the majority).

My faction was crazy fun to play in, but I think it's hard for it to win. We each had the ability to raise/low the temperature or to block another Cabalist, but in that case, Gamelon would just raise the temp to win. In essence, all Tapper could ever do was cancel me out, so I think it was REALLY hard for a Cabalist to fight off members of their own faction if they were recruited.

But being needed by the other factions to get to their VCs was definitely awesome. Made you feel very important.

Overall I liked the game, and I appreciate you stepping in big time, Dinivan. I am kind of annoyed that Obdi disappeared and left you scattered-at-best notes to handle it.

Good game, all!

Yep, winter court had it harder. And the fact that the set-up forced coorperation between the factions made the game very exciting, even more so as such factions couldn't really declare their intentions openly, since they were kinda 'scum' while RI, Harry and Knights were 'town' and additionally couldn't prove that their VC would be in line with other factions, resulting in distrust. This balanced against the fact that quiet a lot of people were hunting for Harry and his lack of a real killing ability. Overall very interesting.

I stepped in as a mod gladly, and hugely enjoyed it (secret fact: I enjoy modding more than playing, generally). I am very glad that you enjoyed the game.

This post has been edited by Dinivan: 03 December 2009 - 09:51 PM

[Peanutbutta]

Dinivan, on 19 November 2009 - 08:08 PM, said:

Mockra, on 19 November 2009 - 06:52 PM, said:

I mostly agree that the scene makes it appear that Fener killed Silchas Ruin, but why on earth would you kill the guy who was possibly going to be modkilled for inactivity? Serc and Fener himself were killed by players who clearly didn't want potentially roled players around to interfere with their plans, so why on earth would Fener have attacked the completely irrelevant Silchas? I would expect people to RECRUIT low-posters, NOT kill them.

so, since many wonder why I NK'ed SR, here goes:

My powerlevel was 3. My master had 7. I was just some underling. I concluded that practically only the RI would have a lower powerlevel than me.
It made sense to me that I could only feed on someone with lower powerlevel - so I had to go after someone I suspected of being roleless. I had several options and went for a bit of gut, and the simple fact that silchas was the alt I had when I was a killing vampire pair in a game with Morgy way back.

but basically I had to kill 'weak-looking' players because I didn't had the power (yet) to go after the really powerhouses (or so I thought, and the rolelist proved me right )

that's for that.

VAMPIRE'S ARE HOT. WE WIN.

Yeah this makes sense now. I had no idea I had a starting power level of 7.

And right now, holy shit Nicodemus looks like he has a strong faction. 2 to start and up to 2 more recruits, with more killing power in there? Whew.

Harry's faction looks almost pedestrian in comparison.

[Peanutbutta]

Path-Shaper, on 19 November 2009 - 08:12 PM, said:

From Eloth

Quote

Yeah yeah, I stole the title from Venge.

Love this game, and not in the least because I am partnered with someone who is both a savvy player and has a great grasp of the game, not to mention someone I have prepared & modded a very difficult game with and who I really respect. PB is awesome (pity though that teaming up with D'rek lasted only a day, here's hoping the next time it lasts a whole lot longer, was quite excited about it!). I am more than a little fearing that when I log into SH at some point, I find out that PB was playing me like a fiddle for every second of the game .

Concerning partnerships, I love playing/modding with Venge (love in a totally platonic way). Morgy was cool too, he and I think alike, he's just always a day ahead which can be frustrating and is why I am sniping at him so much (plus, he always has a clever reply, which doubles the fun). Bubba once pulled me through a game, too - amazing player and great guy.

Never partnered with dibs, Bent (I did mod with him, was huge fun) or Gem, would love that, but as it stands, I'm not going to leave mafia for a long time, so plenty of opportunity for that

anyway, this game is a blast, not in the least because I can finally communicate once more. I don't need powers, I just need someone to whine to

Oh, and D'riss, you're totally roled and need to die. I dub thee vampire, I think.
Haven't spotted Venge yet, which is a very bad thing as it means he is trying to hide

I wub you too, Tapper <3

[Peanutbutta]

Path-Shaper, on 20 November 2009 - 03:11 PM, said:

Dinivan, on 20 November 2009 - 02:56 PM, said:

sure. It's obvious that he has difficulties with posting, so there is no need to count out every minute and be unnecessary cruel


And now meanas can decide whether he takes the coin or not?

Correct. I messaged Meanas that a funny-looking older gentleman approached him and offered him a large silver coin. Do you pick it up?

His response was 'FUCK YES I DO!'

lol, the Weasel enjoyed this one.

[Peanutbutta]

Sir Thursday, on 21 November 2009 - 11:04 AM, said:

drinksinbars, on 21 November 2009 - 10:17 AM, said:

glad yo see tal exploding again seriously it clearly states that both qwueens must be alive at the end and he reveals a vampire? and outs gamelon his fellow queen???

am i missing something here?

He can also win by getting getting the weather to -10 and killing Gamelon. And given how the weather is going at the moment (and how little the Cabal are being hit), he probably thinks that's the way to go. I'd have waited another day or two, personally. It's going to take 3 days at its current rate to get to the max, and that's a long time to survive when you've revealed finder in a Merc game, even with his high power level giving him some immunity at night. But it's not a totally self-combusting play, by any means. If he backs himself to drive home a Gamelon lynch tomorrow, that's one day out of three gone...after that, we'll see, I guess.


Sir Thursday

I think t45 should have waited until the temp was around -8 or -9 to do anything like like he did.

[Peanutbutta]

Osseric, on 21 November 2009 - 09:53 AM, said:

So far Rashan and Emurlahn are the most mysterious. I'm gonna look over them, as I suspect they might be the evil wizards, along with maybe Serc.

Haha, he got the knight team in one guess.

[Shinrei]

That was a lot of fun, thanks guys!

[Peanutbutta]

Sir Thursday, on 23 November 2009 - 07:20 PM, said:

Well, it looks like DiBs' spam was good enough to divert Mockra from D'riss - he's got him first on the "Least Likely to be HP's Master List"!

Sir Thursday

Dibs did a good job!

[Peanutbutta]

drinksinbars, on 25 November 2009 - 09:42 AM, said:

Sir Thursday, on 25 November 2009 - 01:22 AM, said:

I think the one problem with this game is the lack of obvious goal for the RIs - if you've got a role/faction, you've got some kind of insight into the mechanics of the game, but as RI you get nothing. You really need something to aim at to counteract the boredom that comes from perpetually stumbling around in the darkness.

In fact, I feel this is a major problem in general with high TMDI games - they're only really fun if you've got a good role, otherwise you miss out on a large proportion of the fun going on behind the scenes. Whereas with lower TMDI games, it's not such a problem as there are fewer NAs going through that you're missing out on.


Sir Thursday

i think i sent obdia few rather colourful pms to that effect and posted enough about it on thread too. Just because a game has a high tmdi it shouldnt be played blind. its definitely not as much fun for those playing and people never really try to form strategies or trick people if they dont have aclear idea of the games goals.

A game is very hard navigate when players don't know their VCs, that's for sure. RI didn't really appear to have much of a chance in this one.

This post has been edited by Peanutbutta: 03 December 2009 - 10:17 PM

[General King]

So what factions were I accused of being?

[Peanutbutta]

Jump Around, on 02 December 2009 - 05:23 PM, said:

Fucking Mockra, we were one lynch away of a potential majority (including my seduction) where we could do what we want and bring him with us to victory.

I even fake-revealed what I really was to attract a lynch from him down the line, because we needed one weather dude alive to win, and he comes up with that shitty fabulation about me betraying him. Nothing against that per se, but for the whole final counter-productiveness of it, and specially for chosing me as the target of his joke, PB is on my fucking list!

Venge should have pointed out way earlier the thing with me and Ruse. I kept urging it, but his strategy this game is full lurking. That would have been beautiful dissociation that would have sounded true, and would have forced Ruse to reveal as Harry. Anyways, I hope we still win, but I'm not sure how that will work. I have to check the SH thread to see if his recruit was successfull, although with me gone he should have vigged Rashan, since for sure he can vouch for Ruse being Harry (he's not even subtle about that on thread), and he will prevent any doubt about Ruse's reveal eventually.

And I admit I made a mistake with the guard, it was so obvious to me, and the thread was so full of lame real reveals, that I forgot I was not supposed to know that Still, who the fucks lynches someone who is obviously a finder? Rashan is trippin, I should see who this is.

Heh, the problem was the number of unknowns. I knew I could get 4 night votes with 8 players left: Nico, Gamelon, myself, and Eloth. But at 9 players, it was way too unpredictable. Sorry JA, but you still won <3

[Peanutbutta]

Sir Thursday, on 02 December 2009 - 06:39 PM, said:

Ruse: Kill Eloth and Mockra.
Rashan: Kill Ampelas or Korvalain before the weather gets to +5.
Gamelon/Anthras: Push weather to +10.
Eloth: Kill Ruse and Mockra
Mockra: Kill Ruse, Push weather to +10
Ampelas/Korvalain: Kill Ruse, push weather to +/-10.

So my power rankings are as follows:

1) Rashan - only needs one kill.
2) Eloth - Lots of people need to kill Ruse, and no-one is going to defend Mockra at this point.
3) Ruse - It's going to be harder to get rid of Eloth than the reverse, I think.
4) Ampelas/Korvalain - it's very tough to lynch Amp, and I don't think anyone suspects Korv all that much at the moment. But getting to +10 is going to be tough, and they need to get rid of Rashan before one of them dies or they lose.
5) Mockra - Getting to +10 is the hard part, but he'll also need to make it clear to Amp/Korv that his VCs are similar.
6) Gamelon/Anthras - They don't have to kill anybody, but Gamelon isn't going to make it if the temperature gets high, and Anthras seems to be pretty high on the list of people's lynch suspects.


Sir Thursday

I love power rankings, especially when they get flipped on their heads!

[Tapper]

Well, after reading all that:

0) thank you Dinivan and other mods
1) sadly, our PMs aren't posted. PB and I alone had 9 pages. Oh well.
2) fun game, but a bit of a pity that the main mod wasn't there. Think it would have been much, much easier on the jump-in mods if they had found a fully written out game upon death, but no crying over spilt milk;
3) I would have been perfectly ok with getting killed and losing, it would not have been cruel at all, it is the game - but sticking together and not betraying one another was a good strategy as:
- there was no way I could win alone and by selling out PB I would first and foremost have revealed way too much of myself,
- I only could have done that after Harry was dead, and at that point, Game would have been enough, so revealing was still dangerous;
- I liked my partnership with PB;
- the plan to play for team Vampire was great;
- we needed a lot of the same conditions;
- if I needed someone else to kill PB for me to win, why not sit, wait and remain a mystery like I had been all game long, while making myself useful?
4) Summer > Winter in board position thanks to the vampires;
5) Venge, I never suspected you. Hadn't even alted you, which is a crying shame
6) fun game, but I would not have wanted to be a roleless.

[Tapper]

Oh, and JA was in bloody good form again.

[General King]

I did consider trying to win the game as RI but the second I saw a coin being offered I thought to hell with it.

[Tapper]

gratz to the winners, by the by

[Peanutbutta]

Morgoth, on 03 December 2009 - 08:42 PM, said:

Hmpf.. If they'd but waited one day to lynch me, all this would've worked out fine.

Technically, it should go on until someone wins, meaning Mockra would have to kill Eloth if there's a falling out. However, that seems unnecessary and cruel all told. It's a tough one.. I haven't been paying enough attention to assess the situation properly. Mockra not wanting to kill Eloth is too kind and sweet for my mind to comprehend.

ROFL. Well Tapper is the Lover of HHM for a reason!

[General King]

I think venge must have had a heart attack when he realised he had recruited me.

[Peanutbutta]

General King, on 03 December 2009 - 10:31 PM, said:

So what factions were I accused of being?

Uhhh, most of them probably, lol.