Mafia 53: Twilight | Game Thread Vampires and Werewolves and Zombies, oh my!
#741
Posted 27 October 2009 - 01:47 AM
Yes, yes you are.
Seriously though, *if* the scene was supposed to give us clues as to what happened in the night, it sounds more like the three people attacked each other and nullified each other. However, I am under the impression we shouldn't read anything into the scene, so this is all supposition which leads us nowhere.
Seriously though, *if* the scene was supposed to give us clues as to what happened in the night, it sounds more like the three people attacked each other and nullified each other. However, I am under the impression we shouldn't read anything into the scene, so this is all supposition which leads us nowhere.
#742
Posted 27 October 2009 - 02:21 AM
Meh. I speculate a lot. One of the hazards of an overactive imagination. Of course, it tends to distract me from facts...not that I really have many atm to be distracted from
But come on, "a man with a crossbow and a strange hat" sounds a shit ton like Van Helsing.
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Anyone who can kill some sparklers is a kind friend in my books

But come on, "a man with a crossbow and a strange hat" sounds a shit ton like Van Helsing.
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Anyone who can kill some sparklers is a kind friend in my books

#743
Posted 27 October 2009 - 02:37 AM
Woo, no deaths. I know 'no clues' and all, but that scene didn't look like much of anything happened negative for the town.
#744
Posted 27 October 2009 - 02:44 AM
All right.. To Omtose's reveal.
It's convenient isn't it that Omtose's reveal is completely unprovable? He's claiming that he's designed to ruin scum attacks on him. So his reveal wont draw scum actions. Furthermore, as his role is completely passive he can't do anything to prove it himself. And then he claims that his playing so far has been a calculated play to draw night actions? That is absurd, he's overreaction day 1 made him a prime lynch candidate. No way would he be targeted by a scum night action after that. And why would he flip like he did if he had a role like he claims?
In essence, Omtose's reveal is so perfect for his situation it could be tailored. In fact, I am quite confident it is just that.
In my experience, a role reveal that is perfectly tailored to the situation at hand is pretty much always a fake reveal.
Vote Omtose
It's convenient isn't it that Omtose's reveal is completely unprovable? He's claiming that he's designed to ruin scum attacks on him. So his reveal wont draw scum actions. Furthermore, as his role is completely passive he can't do anything to prove it himself. And then he claims that his playing so far has been a calculated play to draw night actions? That is absurd, he's overreaction day 1 made him a prime lynch candidate. No way would he be targeted by a scum night action after that. And why would he flip like he did if he had a role like he claims?
In essence, Omtose's reveal is so perfect for his situation it could be tailored. In fact, I am quite confident it is just that.
In my experience, a role reveal that is perfectly tailored to the situation at hand is pretty much always a fake reveal.
Vote Omtose
This post has been edited by Olar Ethil: 27 October 2009 - 02:50 AM
#745
Posted 27 October 2009 - 02:45 AM
#746
Posted 27 October 2009 - 03:03 AM
I think I made it clear over the night what I thought of Omtose's reveal, and since I have no reason not to I guess I shall also
vote Omtose
Can't guarantee he's an evil vamp, though I'm heavily leaning towards that conclusion, but his reveal still stinks.
vote Omtose
Can't guarantee he's an evil vamp, though I'm heavily leaning towards that conclusion, but his reveal still stinks.
#749
Posted 27 October 2009 - 03:16 AM
#750
Posted 27 October 2009 - 03:26 AM
Uhm...6 inches? Fairly average I know, but the ladies like it.
#751
Posted 27 October 2009 - 03:39 AM
Well another good night. Strange in fact our only Night time death so far has been Bella. My thought is there is no way to kill outright in one night, instead you become wounded then next night you get killed if you don't go to the doctor. Either that or there is a crap load of BP's out there.
Surprised to see Eloth was Tapper, don't think i've seen him crack like that before, I'm sure there is a reason behind it. Only thing I can think of is he didn't want anyone to defend him as he thought he was gone either from a lynch or killed at night.
Surprised to see Eloth was Tapper, don't think i've seen him crack like that before, I'm sure there is a reason behind it. Only thing I can think of is he didn't want anyone to defend him as he thought he was gone either from a lynch or killed at night.
#752
Posted 27 October 2009 - 03:51 AM
It is now Book 4: Breaking Dawn. 28 hours, 45 remaining.
16 players alive: Alkend, Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Hood's Path,Kaschan, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Meanas, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Omtose,Ruse, Serc, Silanah, Telas
9 votes to lynch, 8 to go to night.
2 votes Omtose (Olar Ethil, Meanas)
Not voted: Alkend, Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Hood's Path, Kaschan,Kessobahn, Korvalain, Mockra, Omtose, Ruse, Serc,Silanah, Telas
16 players alive: Alkend, Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Hood's Path,Kaschan, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Meanas, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Omtose,Ruse, Serc, Silanah, Telas
9 votes to lynch, 8 to go to night.
2 votes Omtose (Olar Ethil, Meanas)
Not voted: Alkend, Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Hood's Path, Kaschan,Kessobahn, Korvalain, Mockra, Omtose, Ruse, Serc,Silanah, Telas
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
#753
Posted 27 October 2009 - 04:29 AM
Consider me similarly dubious as to the reveal's legitimacy, as I went on earlier.
Vote Omtose
Vote Omtose
#754
Posted 27 October 2009 - 08:00 AM
sigh. I must ponder the situations on the other side of the world when I am the only waking soul to be found on thread. Is there no intarwebz over there?
#755
Posted 27 October 2009 - 09:05 AM
I'm here as well. I'm just not sure what to do. I'm torn between voting Omtose or not.
Olar made a couple good points, I don't see the best way to attract night kills is to defend yourself vigerously like Omtose has said. In fact its much more likely to get you lynched as he said. Also that reveal is suspect, however its also crazy enough that its tempting to believe it. Felicity the bisexual zombie just seems to fit the game theme as well somehow.
I also don't like the way the day has started with 3 quick votes like that and its tempting to think there is scum there trying to push a lynch.
But well I don't know. At the end of the day I can see myself voting Omtose I guess.
Olar made a couple good points, I don't see the best way to attract night kills is to defend yourself vigerously like Omtose has said. In fact its much more likely to get you lynched as he said. Also that reveal is suspect, however its also crazy enough that its tempting to believe it. Felicity the bisexual zombie just seems to fit the game theme as well somehow.
I also don't like the way the day has started with 3 quick votes like that and its tempting to think there is scum there trying to push a lynch.
But well I don't know. At the end of the day I can see myself voting Omtose I guess.
#756
Posted 27 October 2009 - 09:16 AM
I have to say i am quite amazed at the three votes, the first thing that came to mind was the winning conditions, and if not for those i would be voting for olar right now. I dont know if this is a play to appear as one faction while you are another, but with even the possibility that omtose is telling the truth to some extent only one faction would be desperate for a lynch on him. So either you are in that faction or deliberately trying to appear as such. Either way i think the play is a bad one. I still think we should be hunting coven, and unless someone can convince me that omtose is coven, i aint gonna vote him.
#757
Posted 27 October 2009 - 09:38 AM
Telas, on 26 October 2009 - 07:11 PM, said:
Emur/Meanas, I had an interesting theory based on the VCs and that reveal.
Here's the quote from Omtose:
What does seduced and bitten really mean? Recruited? Attacked? Omtose doesn't appear to offer any info on whether or not the action will end up working. So let's say a wolf tries to kill Omtose... is Omtose spared and the Wolf is instead wounded? Or does Omtose die and but the wolf becomes wounded in the process? The reveal smells a bit like Omtose is indicating he won't be killed.
In either event, he's offered himself a tasty little alibi.
Any remaining Cullens and Evil Vampires won't want to kill him because he's town (no town VC required).
Coven won't bother with him because he's not a required target for them.
The Wolves need to kill him at some point... but now know that they can't attack him... so what, do they have to get him lynched at some point? Great for the town, but seems extremely overpowered against the werewolves.
So now Omtose is a big target in play for the werewolves but if we believe the reveal, he's not getting lynched any time soon. If we believe all of this, we are saying that D'rek put into the game a character that is almost impossible for the wolves to beat without a majority, or if we just assume the reveal is fake and lynch him to test it.
Here's the quote from Omtose:
Omtose said:
Me being a Bisexual zombie i hang out at bar every night lookng for some poon.
If i get seduced and bitten by either a Wolf or vamp they become wounded as my flesh is poison to them.
I have been trying to draw the Night actions as a result of this. so my play has been slightly off because of this i suppose.
If i get seduced and bitten by either a Wolf or vamp they become wounded as my flesh is poison to them.
I have been trying to draw the Night actions as a result of this. so my play has been slightly off because of this i suppose.
What does seduced and bitten really mean? Recruited? Attacked? Omtose doesn't appear to offer any info on whether or not the action will end up working. So let's say a wolf tries to kill Omtose... is Omtose spared and the Wolf is instead wounded? Or does Omtose die and but the wolf becomes wounded in the process? The reveal smells a bit like Omtose is indicating he won't be killed.
In either event, he's offered himself a tasty little alibi.
Any remaining Cullens and Evil Vampires won't want to kill him because he's town (no town VC required).
Coven won't bother with him because he's not a required target for them.
The Wolves need to kill him at some point... but now know that they can't attack him... so what, do they have to get him lynched at some point? Great for the town, but seems extremely overpowered against the werewolves.
So now Omtose is a big target in play for the werewolves but if we believe the reveal, he's not getting lynched any time soon. If we believe all of this, we are saying that D'rek put into the game a character that is almost impossible for the wolves to beat without a majority, or if we just assume the reveal is fake and lynch him to test it.
Im a bisexual Zombie...i swing both ways...anybody tries to recruit me they get wounded.
Im a sex crazed zombie who will bump uglys with anyone at the bar.
I am not going to elaborate on what may or may not happen if they try and kill me...since the unknown could keep me around a little longer.
#758
Posted 27 October 2009 - 09:41 AM
Serc, on 26 October 2009 - 07:23 PM, said:
tbh Omtose could be anyone, hes given himself the standard, "for some reason NA wont work on me" thing that is common to almost all fake reveals you see, and given that every faction at the moment has people who would be targetted by NA im not sure if hes a scum hiding from the people trying to kill him or just a town who doesnt want to be killed.
I never said anything about killing me...only recruiting.
sorry i wasnt clear enough but we were moving offices and my internet access was very limited at the time.
#759
Posted 27 October 2009 - 09:43 AM
Emurlahn, on 26 October 2009 - 07:33 PM, said:
Right correct me if I'm wrong but Omtose will put forth a case or point fingers at people but won't put down a vote till other people have voted?
If you will read my case then you will see i concluded that eloth must be either Evil vamp or Queleni.
I would rather have tried to look for a coven.
By the time i had to leave Eloth then revealed and i voted for him because it was a sure thing to hit scum.
#760
Posted 27 October 2009 - 09:44 AM
i know that, i read it as recruiting but its vague enough to possibly mean killing as well so i think it still fits under the standard fake reveal criteria. However a reveal like that could be town just as easily as scum so im not sure about voting for you yet