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Mafia 53: Twilight | Game Thread Vampires and Werewolves and Zombies, oh my!

#701 User is offline   Meanas 

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 06:59 PM

View PostKaschan, on 26 October 2009 - 06:05 PM, said:

Well, that was remarkably straightforward. Omtose's reveal sounds pretty plausible...

I'm going to have annoyingly little time today and tomorrow (although I might just be around for a little bit if my home internet is sorted out), but if I was going to have the time I'd be devoting it to analysing the low posters like myself. So that's Ruse, D'riss, Mockra, Kaschan, Ampelas and Korvalain (you could maybe include Serc, Meanas and Kessobahn in there as well). I really don't know much about their tendencies, which is not a good thing when we've already had three days of the game.



EDITTED: because I forgot Meanas


Kasch, why don't you know your own tendencies? Are you an FM who just slipped? Nah, prbly not...are there any shapeshifters in Twilight?

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:00 PM

AUGH! gotta go! Midterm in an hour. Wish me luck.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:01 PM

btw 4, (now 5 >.<) in a row is like, a record for me!

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:01 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 26 October 2009 - 06:55 PM, said:

Could it be that what Tapper wanted us to think Telas?


That wouldn't make sense. If he believed Omtose, then getting Omtose really doesn't seem worth getting killed for. If he didn't, he could have just cried fake reveal, rather than a self reveal and getting himself lynched.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:01 PM

he did also say like myself before he posted the list though so il assume he just read it off the post count in order. also good luck, unless your scum :)

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:02 PM

View PostMeanas, on 26 October 2009 - 06:59 PM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 26 October 2009 - 06:05 PM, said:

Well, that was remarkably straightforward. Omtose's reveal sounds pretty plausible...

I'm going to have annoyingly little time today and tomorrow (although I might just be around for a little bit if my home internet is sorted out), but if I was going to have the time I'd be devoting it to analysing the low posters like myself. So that's Ruse, D'riss, Mockra, Kaschan, Ampelas and Korvalain (you could maybe include Serc, Meanas and Kessobahn in there as well). I really don't know much about their tendencies, which is not a good thing when we've already had three days of the game.



EDITTED: because I forgot Meanas


Kasch, why don't you know your own tendencies? Are you an FM who just slipped? Nah, prbly not...are there any shapeshifters in Twilight?


He did say "low posters like myself." That's how I originally read that.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:11 PM

Emur/Meanas, I had an interesting theory based on the VCs and that reveal.

Here's the quote from Omtose:

Omtose said:

Me being a Bisexual zombie i hang out at bar every night lookng for some poon.
If i get seduced and bitten by either a Wolf or vamp they become wounded as my flesh is poison to them.
I have been trying to draw the Night actions as a result of this. so my play has been slightly off because of this i suppose.


What does seduced and bitten really mean? Recruited? Attacked? Omtose doesn't appear to offer any info on whether or not the action will end up working. So let's say a wolf tries to kill Omtose... is Omtose spared and the Wolf is instead wounded? Or does Omtose die and but the wolf becomes wounded in the process? The reveal smells a bit like Omtose is indicating he won't be killed.

In either event, he's offered himself a tasty little alibi.

Any remaining Cullens and Evil Vampires won't want to kill him because he's town (no town VC required).
Coven won't bother with him because he's not a required target for them.
The Wolves need to kill him at some point... but now know that they can't attack him... so what, do they have to get him lynched at some point? Great for the town, but seems extremely overpowered against the werewolves.

So now Omtose is a big target in play for the werewolves but if we believe the reveal, he's not getting lynched any time soon. If we believe all of this, we are saying that D'rek put into the game a character that is almost impossible for the wolves to beat without a majority, or if we just assume the reveal is fake and lynch him to test it.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:13 PM

In other words, if Omtose is lying, he's a werewolf. He's bought himself a ticket for a few days with the reveal since nobody gets to question why he doesn't die after any given night.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:14 PM

by bitten/seduced i took that to mean if they try to recruit him theyll be wounded but a kill would work as neither would have to bite him due to having super strength (i assume unless Twilights butchered that as well :) )

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:17 PM

Yeah but it works the same, Serc.

Look at it this way... the wolves have have the VC of killing THE TOWN. Not a few people, the entire town, this implies that they either started with a larger number than other factions to give them a reasonable chance of getting to a point where they can match the town in votes or they can recruit players from the town, meaning they started very small.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:23 PM

tbh Omtose could be anyone, hes given himself the standard, "for some reason NA wont work on me" thing that is common to almost all fake reveals you see, and given that every faction at the moment has people who would be targetted by NA im not sure if hes a scum hiding from the people trying to kill him or just a town who doesnt want to be killed.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:33 PM

I'm not sure I'm inclined to believe he's Cullen given Days 1 and 2. He's possible he could be an Evil Vampire based on Day 3, but that seems like a mighty huge gamble for Tapper to try and pull off to save his partner.

Coven's possible, I suppose.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:33 PM

It is Epilogue 3. 6 hours, 27 minutes remaining.
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:33 PM

Right correct me if I'm wrong but Omtose will put forth a case or point fingers at people but won't put down a vote till other people have voted?

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:34 PM

yeah i dont believe he is Tappers partner as that must be the most over the top distancing ever.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:43 PM

I'm here for a while ( at least 4 hrs. ) and of course its night -.-.

Crazy turn of events. One thing in catching up... i don't think Meanas' speculation is all that far fetched. Someone pointed out that in his reveal Omtose mentioned that he is:

1. on Town.
2. Is poison to vampires and werewolves.

So unless he gets lynched or vigged by his own team he can't be removed from the game? Something about the reveal is not adding up. Maybe I am reading his reveal wrong.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:46 PM

Sounds about right to me, Mockra.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:48 PM

View PostSerc, on 26 October 2009 - 07:14 PM, said:

by bitten/seduced i took that to mean if they try to recruit him theyll be wounded but a kill would work as neither would have to bite him due to having super strength (i assume unless Twilights butchered that as well Posted Image )

This. Also, the only factions that need to kill only the original werewolves are the Cullens, and assuming Jacob and Billy are the only two, the Coven. I believe Omtose's reveal, mostly because it fits in with the overall tone of the game, and partly because it still leaves him open to vig kills, night kills and lynches. Presumably they run him over with a coach instead of biting him.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:48 PM

basically it has all the makings of a fake reveal, being fairly simple and believable while not encouraging people to do night actions on him.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:49 PM

@kesso i think that seems to depend on how you read his reveal as it seems a few people read it as he cant be killed by vamps or werewolves either

EDIT cant spell :S

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