[D'riss]

Eloth, on 26 October 2009 - 03:03 PM, said:

Funny how you can be too smart for your own good and get your own play to backfire at you. I bet spoilers will seethe with insults from my faction at my adress right now.

I could have been such a great aid to you all. I am a sparkly. The evil, murdering kind. In fact, I am so evil that anyone trying to fuck me over, ends up with an STD the size of a fist in their crotch themselves. Which is why I have been doing what I did - like Omtose, I wanted to draw night actions, fuel the good doctor with a ready supply of victims, and/or slow all the other factions down, and hopefully give her info on all other kinds of evil. I also know I am dead anyway - I have been targeted with a kill on night 1, lost my BP then. The killer from then was wounded, but he'd be healthy now, so he'll probably try again. Wounding as many others as I can would have helped my faction tremendously.

See, that is why the doctor still lives, and that is why I am not going to reveal her either. Evil and town have roughly the same goals, except that you want me and mine dead, ungrateful bastards that you are .

Is this going to screw my faction? I am dead anyway... but I dare say we stand still in a very good position as you'll be forced to go for coven first, anyway. They, meanwhile, gain nothing with my death, which is nice for a change.

well i definitely ain't changing my vote now.

[Eloth]

Omtose, on 26 October 2009 - 03:16 PM, said:

Eloth, on 26 October 2009 - 03:12 PM, said:

Omtose, on 26 October 2009 - 03:06 PM, said:

So i was right in thinking you a vamp?

excellent

mind you, you also stole my reveal, cause I wanted to reveal as Humpy the Vampirelayer with a 20 inch stake of wood in his pants, which would explain why all vamps and wolves trying to fuck with me would end up butthurt.

youll have to take that up with PS

I have to go....cheers guys

I doubt D'rek is pleased with me at the moment.

[Hood's Path]

Well, I doubt there'll be someone else lynched now, so all we have to do is wait for the votes.

[Telas]

Emurlahn, on 24 October 2009 - 07:43 PM, said:

D, on 24 October 2009 - 01:14 PM, said:

there doesnt seem to be a case against telas, so i am unsure why kessobahn is suddenly voting for him. also i have to question eloth's vote simply because it comes off the back of people suggesting a link between omtose and him. The vote seems more self serving than decisive but i havent had a chance to look over the early stuff where this supposed link between the two was established to comment. Or perhaps i missed it on my skim read. The only thing i did pick up was a very panicked response to questions by omtose and a possible connection between olar and galain.

vote omtose

Right can D'riss explains this post, he talks about the only thing he picked up was OMtose behaviour and a possible connection between Olar and galain. But just in that post he also mentioned Kessobahn has put a vote on Telas which he doesn't understand, and he thinks that Eloth vote is self serving (is he suggesting that Eloth is distancing himself from some views that him and Omtose are linked).

So can he explain out of the four players still alive that he mentioned why Omtose was the one he voted for or is he jumping on the train.

Cause if you think that olar and galain are linked, why not vote for Olar?

Emurlahn, on 24 October 2009 - 08:29 PM, said:

Quote

Victory Conditions:

Town - Eliminate the Cullens, Queleti and all Killers.

Cullens - Eliminate the Evil Vampires, the Coven and all original members of the Queleti

Queleti - Eliminate the Town, and all original members of the Cullens

Evil Vampires - Kill the Cullens, Werewolves, Coven and Bella Swan

Coven - Kill Edward Cullen, Carlisle Cullen, Jacob Black, Billy Black, Charlie Swan, Bella Swan and Renesmee Swan.

Well the coven won't benefit from your death Olar if you are a cullen. And they seem to be in the lead with only 3 targets left.

Destruction of the cullens would benefit town, evil vampires and the queleti. It allows the other teams that are still in play to catch up with the coven.

But I don't think your a Cullen.

This is a bad argument. If we think Olar is Cullen, then he should NOTbe voted for. Yes, it doesn't help the Coven and it helps all otherfactions, BUT it does give the Coven a free day to do whatever they do.Plus, you have no real guarantee that Olar is actually Cullen and couldjust be wasting your time. And then you suddenly think he's not a Cullen? Weird.

Emurlahn, on 24 October 2009 - 09:50 PM, said:

So I can't ask you a question, D'riss? There a weekend break no need to rush a lynch.

But if you're not wanting to talk.

Vote Omtose

For acting squirmy on first day, with only a couple of posts agaiinst him.

Worst vote I've read so far. You don't want to rush a lynch but you are happily helping it along because some other guy hasn't responded to you.

Eloth, on 26 October 2009 - 12:09 PM, said:

*SNIP*

I assume that means that we have to eliminate the killers from evil vampires and coven but can leave the non-killing roles ('symps') or whatever else they have, alive, where the Cullens needed those dead, too. We need to get rid of all Cullens and Qs (I assume that means including recruits) whereas for the Cullens it was only the original wolves.

Had Galain been a Queleti or Coven, I wouldn't have used this kind of reasoning, nor if he was an evil vamp while Bella was alive, due to the chance he was gunning for a townie.

An additional (unlikely but still possible) support for Galain's choice: from wiki, I conclude that Carlisle was a doctor. If that translates to game mechanics, it could be Galain was a doctor, which is like a passive find. What if Omtose was wounded, went to see a doc, and ended up on Galain's surgery table?

Suppose we lynched Omtose, and suppose he'd come up as anything but town, that would be doubly advantageous for Galain: someone lynched who may be on his list, and since we lynch scum, we'd trust his instincts without wondering overly much where he got his info from, at least for a day or 2.

Mind you, all of the above is circumstantial. All of the above is farfetched and based on ifs and assumptions. I'm willing to take the gamble. We know one thing, and that is that Omtose overreacted to two votes. You can do a few things to having a few votes on you; defend comprehensively or laugh them off. He did neither, but reacted as if stung.

Wow, thanks for again resummarizing what I already wrote about possible town goals and Carlisle's possible role. Next time, maybe you should add a copyright symbol because I think this is the second time you've tried to rip off what I already wrote.

However, your logic is badly flawed. How on earth would Omtose be wounded on Day 1? And why are you confusing Galain (Edward) with Barghast (Carlisle)? I am HEAVILY tempted to vote you for the absolute BS of this logic. It reads to me like someone concocting a story and mixing up their facts.

And I could easily conclude you are trying to fake symp me with the plagarism.

[Hood's Path]

Eloth, on 26 October 2009 - 03:28 PM, said:

Omtose, on 26 October 2009 - 03:16 PM, said:

Eloth, on 26 October 2009 - 03:12 PM, said:

Omtose, on 26 October 2009 - 03:06 PM, said:

So i was right in thinking you a vamp?

excellent

mind you, you also stole my reveal, cause I wanted to reveal as Humpy the Vampirelayer with a 20 inch stake of wood in his pants, which would explain why all vamps and wolves trying to fuck with me would end up butthurt.

youll have to take that up with PS

I have to go....cheers guys

I doubt D'rek is pleased with me at the moment.

Haha I would think not.

[Telas]

OK I have to go to my first meeting, I'll finish catching up when I get back.

[Hood's Path]

Telas, on 26 October 2009 - 03:36 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 24 October 2009 - 07:43 PM, said:

D, on 24 October 2009 - 01:14 PM, said:

there doesnt seem to be a case against telas, so i am unsure why kessobahn is suddenly voting for him. also i have to question eloth's vote simply because it comes off the back of people suggesting a link between omtose and him. The vote seems more self serving than decisive but i havent had a chance to look over the early stuff where this supposed link between the two was established to comment. Or perhaps i missed it on my skim read. The only thing i did pick up was a very panicked response to questions by omtose and a possible connection between olar and galain.

vote omtose

Right can D'riss explains this post, he talks about the only thing he picked up was OMtose behaviour and a possible connection between Olar and galain. But just in that post he also mentioned Kessobahn has put a vote on Telas which he doesn't understand, and he thinks that Eloth vote is self serving (is he suggesting that Eloth is distancing himself from some views that him and Omtose are linked).

So can he explain out of the four players still alive that he mentioned why Omtose was the one he voted for or is he jumping on the train.

Cause if you think that olar and galain are linked, why not vote for Olar?

Emurlahn, on 24 October 2009 - 08:29 PM, said:

Quote

Victory Conditions:

Town - Eliminate the Cullens, Queleti and all Killers.

Cullens - Eliminate the Evil Vampires, the Coven and all original members of the Queleti

Queleti - Eliminate the Town, and all original members of the Cullens

Evil Vampires - Kill the Cullens, Werewolves, Coven and Bella Swan

Coven - Kill Edward Cullen, Carlisle Cullen, Jacob Black, Billy Black, Charlie Swan, Bella Swan and Renesmee Swan.

Well the coven won't benefit from your death Olar if you are a cullen. And they seem to be in the lead with only 3 targets left.

Destruction of the cullens would benefit town, evil vampires and the queleti. It allows the other teams that are still in play to catch up with the coven.

But I don't think your a Cullen.

This is a bad argument. If we think Olar is Cullen, then he should NOTbe voted for. Yes, it doesn't help the Coven and it helps all otherfactions, BUT it does give the Coven a free day to do whatever they do.Plus, you have no real guarantee that Olar is actually Cullen and couldjust be wasting your time. And then you suddenly think he's not a Cullen? Weird.

Emurlahn, on 24 October 2009 - 09:50 PM, said:

So I can't ask you a question, D'riss? There a weekend break no need to rush a lynch.

But if you're not wanting to talk.

Vote Omtose

For acting squirmy on first day, with only a couple of posts agaiinst him.

Worst vote I've read so far. You don't want to rush a lynch but you are happily helping it along because some other guy hasn't responded to you.

Eloth, on 26 October 2009 - 12:09 PM, said:

*SNIP*

I assume that means that we have to eliminate the killers from evil vampires and coven but can leave the non-killing roles ('symps') or whatever else they have, alive, where the Cullens needed those dead, too. We need to get rid of all Cullens and Qs (I assume that means including recruits) whereas for the Cullens it was only the original wolves.

Had Galain been a Queleti or Coven, I wouldn't have used this kind of reasoning, nor if he was an evil vamp while Bella was alive, due to the chance he was gunning for a townie.

An additional (unlikely but still possible) support for Galain's choice: from wiki, I conclude that Carlisle was a doctor. If that translates to game mechanics, it could be Galain was a doctor, which is like a passive find. What if Omtose was wounded, went to see a doc, and ended up on Galain's surgery table?

Suppose we lynched Omtose, and suppose he'd come up as anything but town, that would be doubly advantageous for Galain: someone lynched who may be on his list, and since we lynch scum, we'd trust his instincts without wondering overly much where he got his info from, at least for a day or 2.

Mind you, all of the above is circumstantial. All of the above is farfetched and based on ifs and assumptions. I'm willing to take the gamble. We know one thing, and that is that Omtose overreacted to two votes. You can do a few things to having a few votes on you; defend comprehensively or laugh them off. He did neither, but reacted as if stung.

Wow, thanks for again resummarizing what I already wrote about possible town goals and Carlisle's possible role. Next time, maybe you should add a copyright symbol because I think this is the second time you've tried to rip off what I already wrote.

However, your logic is badly flawed. How on earth would Omtose be wounded on Day 1? And why are you confusing Galain (Edward) with Barghast (Carlisle)? I am HEAVILY tempted to vote you for the absolute BS of this logic. It reads to me like someone concocting a story and mixing up their facts.

And I could easily conclude you are trying to fake symp me with the plagarism.

Can I then easily conclude you are fake symping me with your plagiarism? Read on, Telas.

[Eloth]

Hood, on 26 October 2009 - 03:36 PM, said:

Eloth, on 26 October 2009 - 03:28 PM, said:

Omtose, on 26 October 2009 - 03:16 PM, said:

Eloth, on 26 October 2009 - 03:12 PM, said:

Omtose, on 26 October 2009 - 03:06 PM, said:

So i was right in thinking you a vamp?

excellent

mind you, you also stole my reveal, cause I wanted to reveal as Humpy the Vampirelayer with a 20 inch stake of wood in his pants, which would explain why all vamps and wolves trying to fuck with me would end up butthurt.

youll have to take that up with PS

I have to go....cheers guys

I doubt D'rek is pleased with me at the moment.

Haha I would think not.

Well, I gambled, I lost. It always happens to me when I draw a good role in merc games... something i have to work on.
Pity though, I thought I had a good layout of factions.

Right now, my main amusement is going to be Telas reading on, I guess

[Emurlahn]

Remove Vote
Vote Eloth

For obvious reasons that Eloth has given us.

[Ampelas]

Holy crap, you go away for a couple hours it all goes wild!

Well glad someone pointed out that Zombies is mentioned in the thread title because was I the only one not trusting Omtose reveal at first read?
In fact I'm still not completely convinced.

Anyway regardless Eloth has outed himself as Vampire scum which is fantastic, 3 lynches, 3 scum! That is quality stuff right there.

Vote Eloth

[Alkend]

Given that reveal, I have to

Vote Eloth

[Alkend]

That must be close to a lynch now. Anyone got a count?

[Meanas]

Good morning. I've caught up and am trying my best to type while rofling. Angry Eloth is angry.

vote Sparkloth

[Alkend]

That's 10 votes and a lynch I believe.

[Eloth]

Alkend, on 26 October 2009 - 04:14 PM, said:

That's 10 votes and a lynch I believe.

Eat my lynch proof Jesterdom.

[Olar Ethil]

All right.. good urm.. almost noon you all.

Omtose, on 26 October 2009 - 07:53 AM, said:

Alright im back and i have caught up.

So... people are voting for me because i reacted strongly towards a thoughtless vote on myself which i perceived as a potential scummy vote?

I was pretty damn sure in my theory that Galain was way too easy with throwing his vote out there and I WAS RIGHT!!
We have managed to get two Cullens because there was enough noise made and now i am getting labelled scum because of this?

How does "reacting strongly" make a person automatically scum?
If this is the case then Olar is THE scummiest player on this board, cause that man has seriously flown of the rails after only a few symp fingers pointed at him.

But it would seem that Olar is probably a cullen if he is scum, and we are in agreement that the cullens are sufficiently crippled for now and we should be looking for the coven...

Omtose, on 26 October 2009 - 01:24 PM, said:

Ok...

It seems you guys are not going to belive me no matter what.
You are convicting me for making a weak day one case against the person who voted for myslef.

I felt it was logically sound...others think it was some kind of desperate defense because i shat myself after receiving 2 votes based on my one post.


watever...im not too bothered.
Since i have to now move offices i am probably going to get told to leave my desk any minute now so i really cant go on arguing with you people
Ill reveal then you can go ahead and lynch me...

But just remember...Olar is most likely a Cullen and i believe Eloth self preservation makes him more than likely not Town.
also there have been a few sheo votes on myself, using my "over reaction" as an excuse to voet me off im sure there is allot of info if you go and look at my train.

Im Felicity the Bisexual Zombie
I kid you not...thats my name...and i am the towns resident zombie.
PS tells me that there is no zombie in the book but if the author can bastardise vampires then he can bastardise the setting or some such.

Me being a Bisexual zombie i hang out at bar every night lookng for some poon.
If i get seduced and bitten by either a Wolf or vamp they become wounded as my flesh is poison to them.
I have been trying to draw the Night actions as a result of this. so my play has been slightly off because of this i suppose.

Anyways im pretty useless now that ive revealed...

This is making me very unsure... Omtose has definitely not been playing like someone wanting evil night actions in my opinion, but then I haven't found much of his play at all rational, so it's hard to say really. His reveal is pretty much the optimal fake-reveal. I doubt I could've come up with a better fake role myself and I do have some practice in that area. However, This reveal followed a lenght of reasoning from Eloth that made my hairs stand on end. Seriously, I cannot believe that Eloth is innocent after those remarks about the doctor, revealing and so on. Omtose is still a suspect of mine, but Eloth definitely climbed up on the scum ladder and so I'll give Omtose the benefit of the doubt for now.

Emurlahn, on 26 October 2009 - 01:53 PM, said:

I did think Olar could be the other cullen but he could be another faction member trying to act as such as an attempt to throw people off him, we are going the cullens aren't a threat they lost two of their guys. If that the case the true Cullen wouldn't be so obvious hoping that later in the game he might improve his side situation.

If Olar isn't cullen, then what is he?

Town, Werewolves, and evil vampires benefit from destruction of cullens, so I don't think he is one of them.

Coven have killed all the cullens they need to kill, so if Olar is coven he may try to appear as the last cullen in a play to delay the other teams make them waste kills.

Remove Vote
Vote Olar Ethil

I am flattered, but even with my massive intellect such a master plan would require me to have full access to SH from before the game started.


Anyways, I see no reason not to

vote Eloth

[Alkend]

It would be awesome play if you were a jester, although horribly evil of the mods to put one in without telling us so I call bull****

[Olar Ethil]

I believe there's no sparkloth in this game, so the hammer goes to my humble self

[Alkend]

I believe you were actually +2 on the hammer Olar... since only 9 votes are needed for a lynch.

[Meanas]

DOH, I wantedto hammer the sparklie