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Mafia 53: Twilight | Game Thread Vampires and Werewolves and Zombies, oh my!

#1481 User is offline   Hood's Path 

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 01:37 PM

As to Kesso, I'm unsure as to what Meanas was trying to achieve. If Kesso is the last evil vamp, then fair enough, but if Kesso is telling the truth, or is a Cullen or WW, then his defense makes little sense. Although, if Meanas thought Kesso was town, and it seems he did, it could be the only reason he wanted to defend Kesso was that he thought Mockra was of another faction, and didn't want to waste a lynch on town.

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 01:58 PM

No one else has anything to say?

EDIT: by the way, is there going to be another weekend break?

This post has been edited by Hood's Path: 30 October 2009 - 01:58 PM


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:04 PM

I can't figure out any good reasons for what Meanas did either.

I don't get the last bit though HP. Why would Meanas throw himself under the tracks like he did to save a lynch of a townperson? THey're not his winning conditions but its not like he would care.

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:08 PM

Maybe with Mockra reveal, Meanas wanted to get that lynch through?

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:16 PM

Hmm... so Meanas wanted to reveal to clear Kesso and get Mockra lynched because Mockra revealed Guard? And they didn't want a Guard around?

And he didnt realise Lady Dracula was going to be a horribly bad move?

But why is Kesso's own reveal so unbelievable? He's a "Tourist" who can't be touched at night and all the people he's wounded are dead.

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:21 PM

Gods I'm not understanding Meanas reasons for doing it.

Also people PI Kesso has me wondering. I wnat to hear their reason for why they think he innocent.

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:26 PM

So who are the people who did PI Kesso? Kaschan did if I recall, in some sort of confusing way I couldn't understand why he managed to PI him. And now he's vote number 2 for Kesso, so I'm guessing its not PI any more. And Meanas did as well, and tried to say he was Van Helsing but then again Meanas turned out to be an evil vampire and not the holidaying Lady Dracula like we all thought, so that PIing doesn't hold much for me.

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:27 PM

View PostAmpelas, on 30 October 2009 - 02:16 PM, said:

Hmm... so Meanas wanted to reveal to clear Kesso and get Mockra lynched because Mockra revealed Guard? And they didn't want a Guard around?

And he didnt realise Lady Dracula was going to be a horribly bad move?

But why is Kesso's own reveal so unbelievable? He's a "Tourist" who can't be touched at night and all the people he's wounded are dead.




This isn't a real question right?

I too am trying to figure out the reason for Meanas move. It seems strange that both Meanas and Tapp would suicide themselves like that. I think we need to look at what was going on and who was being brought up as a possible target when both of them exposed themselves. If there is a common alt who was being banded around then that is our guy.

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:27 PM

Wow that is good news - hitting another evil and noone died during night. I am not completely sure what that means with regards to Kesso, but I think we have to lynch him.
Either he was defended by his evil posse, or he was set up by said posse. Although I my confusion level in this game is at an all time high, so I might be missing something.

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:37 PM

View PostAmpelas, on 30 October 2009 - 02:16 PM, said:

Hmm... so Meanas wanted to reveal to clear Kesso and get Mockra lynched because Mockra revealed Guard? And they didn't want a Guard around?

And he didnt realise Lady Dracula was going to be a horribly bad move?

But why is Kesso's own reveal so unbelievable? He's a "Tourist" who can't be touched at night and all the people he's wounded are dead.

Yeah, I have no idea why he'd stick his neck out so far if Kesso was town, but considering we haven't hit a wolf yet, and the Cullens are presumably stronger now, there might not be all that much town left, so wanting to get a guard and potential Cullen rival out of the way would be far more preferable than letting the wolves get closer to their goal. It's really stupid play, I know, but that's the only reason I can think of. As such it's not a huge stretch to assume he's an evil vamp, but there have been no counter-reveals and we have a scene to prove the character exists, so I'm more inclined to buy his reveal. His story about wounding some chick in the scene checks out too, but it's very fishy that everyone he targeted is dead.

View PostEmurlahn, on 30 October 2009 - 02:21 PM, said:

Gods I'm not understanding Meanas reasons for doing it.

Also people PI Kesso has me wondering. I wnat to hear their reason for why they think he innocent.

I quoted Kaschan's reasoning for it a few posts ago. Meanas' reason was his vig failing and finding out he's Van Helsing (I think), and I can't remember what Mockra's reason was.

I want to add my two cents to the Tourist CF that has everyone all riled up. Lady Dracula was quite possibly the worst reveal I have ever seen, but Omtose' reveal has been shown to be true. Now, it might be a stretch to say the Coven only had one member (I blame recruitment for that oddball myself), but Omtose' CF is decidedly different to the Coven's, so he can't be them, and we have had CFs from every other faction bar the WWs, and I think we can safely say they aren't tourists. However, like I pointed out before, the mayoral part of the CF says 'associated with' so if a person isn't associated with any of the other factions, but is just chilling amongst town, they're a tourist. Now, while they may not be human or of Forks, their goals align with the town, and thus they are of the faction 'Town', just not 'associated with' the Town.

#1491 User is offline   Korvalain 

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:44 PM

Vote Driss


I am voting Driss because I think I might have team WW worked out. I need to lynch him to test out my theory...in fact - I think team town has this in the bag so I am going to reveal and really clear some shit up

I am the finder. My name is Charlie Swan. Since Coven is gone it only matters that I am town.

I have done a pretty decent job of finding. depending on how drunk I get, clears up how much info I receive.

night 1 - I was sober so found out - Telas - vampire - cullen
night 2 - tipsy - Olar Ethil - human - town
night 3 - stag - Serc - vampire - dead now
night 4 - tipsy - Kaschan - human - town
night 5 - stag - HP - vampire

12 players alive:
Ampelas, - unknown
D'riss, - unknown
Emurlahn, - unknown (revealed as mayor - no counter reveal)
Hood'sPath - vampire (possibly the last evil vampire)
,Kaschan, - human - town
Kessobahn, - unknown (revealed as bazaar un-named character with the power to wound and has his own winning conditions)
Korvalain, - - charlie swan
Mockra, - unknown (revealed as Jason somebody - gaurd - no counter reveal)
Olar Ethil,- human - town
Ruse, - unknown
Silanah, - unknown
Telas - vampire - cullen (possibly the last cullen)


Kessobahn, - unknown (possibly working with town)


Ampelas, - unknown
D'riss, - unknown
Ruse, - unknown
Silanah, - unknown


My find is on one of the four above - I suggest that someone gaurd on of the others, we lynch one of the others. I would like the gaurd to reveal who they are going to gaurd - and we figure out which of the others to lynch. My find will be on one of the remaining 2.

hope this reveal wasn't too early, but I thought it best to get all the info out in front of us, before we lynch Kess and possibly waste one (if he is who he says he is). I am pretty sure that we cant lose now. But we need to go through the motions.

So yeah - Thread blown up!

#1492 User is offline   Korvalain 

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:45 PM

Oh and Telas and HP - sorry but you guys are screwed, if you are the last. lol

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:48 PM

Well that was unexpected.

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:48 PM

Good morning, all. We've still only had NKs on even-numbered nights, so that's something to think about, too. Mockra claimed he was going to guard Emur last night, too.

I am with HP that it seems kind of likely that Kesso is going to come up Laurent. There's little reason NOT to lynch him given the oddness of his defense. Why would Meanas lie like that and throw himself under the bus to try and save Kesso unless Kesso was an important member of the team? If Kesso was a minor member of the team, I would think Meanas would have just voted Mockra and hoped for the best.

Vote Kessobahn

I hope there's a weekend break because I am heading out of town in a couple hours and won't be back for a few days.

#1495 User is offline   Silanah 

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:49 PM

LMAO @ Telas

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:49 PM

View PostTelas, on 30 October 2009 - 02:48 PM, said:

Good morning, all. We've still only had NKs on even-numbered nights, so that's something to think about, too. Mockra claimed he was going to guard Emur last night, too.

I am with HP that it seems kind of likely that Kesso is going to come up Laurent. There's little reason NOT to lynch him given the oddness of his defense. Why would Meanas lie like that and throw himself under the bus to try and save Kesso unless Kesso was an important member of the team? If Kesso was a minor member of the team, I would think Meanas would have just voted Mockra and hoped for the best.

Vote Kessobahn

I hope there's a weekend break because I am heading out of town in a couple hours and won't be back for a few days.


HAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!!

Irony - defined.

#1497 User is offline   Silanah 

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:50 PM

HAHAHAHAHA!

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:50 PM

Well that's definitely unexpected =/

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:51 PM

So Korv, you know who the team ww are? Would it kill you to give more info?

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:52 PM

Haha wow.

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