[Kessobahn]

Telas, on 30 October 2009 - 02:33 AM, said:

You really think, after Meanas was speed lynched, that 3 votes couldn't be found to lynch you off?

Not really, not. But what matters is what they thought.

[Ampelas]

Kessobahn, on 30 October 2009 - 02:35 AM, said:

And please, all it would take is just one scum to say 'I wasn't wounded' and then we'd be here anyway. I'll tell you what I did in the morning, though, they'll probably still be alive. Not saying until night is over, for obvious reasons.

Yes but then we'd see your CF and and know we have found scum - this way we have a pretty unbelievable reveal, based on being set up by Evil Vampires who wouldn't even want to set up a Town person, and all the people who could back you up, are the people who are all dead.

[Olar Ethil]

Kessobahn, on 30 October 2009 - 02:38 AM, said:

Telas, on 30 October 2009 - 02:33 AM, said:

You really think, after Meanas was speed lynched, that 3 votes couldn't be found to lynch you off?

Not really, not. But what matters is what they thought.

that's what she said!

[Kessobahn]

Ampelas, on 30 October 2009 - 02:45 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on 30 October 2009 - 02:35 AM, said:

And please, all it would take is just one scum to say 'I wasn't wounded' and then we'd be here anyway. I'll tell you what I did in the morning, though, they'll probably still be alive. Not saying until night is over, for obvious reasons.

Yes but then we'd see your CF and and know we have found scum - this way we have a pretty unbelievable reveal, based on being set up by Evil Vampires who wouldn't even want to set up a Town person, and all the people who could back you up, are the people who are all dead.

I was tempted by two other people, actually. I was torn between Tellan and Galain on the first night, but didn't chose Galain after Barghast messed up and he was going down anyway, and I was thinking of wounding Telas on the second but I wanted to see if anything would happen at the bar first. So the first alternative has died too, and the other, now trying to lynch me, wouldn't really be persuaded to back me up on this. So I'm pretty damn glad I didn't.

[Olar Ethil]

why wont you entertain me? gah

[D'riss]

Path-Shaper, on 30 October 2009 - 12:12 AM, said:

7 votes Meanas (D'riss, Mockra, Telas, Silanah, Ruse, Emurlahn, Korvalain)

***

After she recovered from being hit by a Buick, Stephanie returned to writing and finished Midnight Sun, which was essentially Twilight from another character's perspective. Trying to cash in on the series for all it was worth, she next suggested a spin-off novel following the exploits of a minor character, Felicity, as she attended college in upstate Washington and had to deal with the realization that the hick knowledge she learned at high school in Forks was about as useful as a neck warmer on a giraffe.
The selection board at the publisher was not very interested, however. They believed that this story not only sounded like it was crappy (like the rest of the franchise), but that it also wouldn't sell well. They were about to dismiss her when a man wearing a sombrero and a trench coat burst into the boardroom. The board members had a combined reaction of worshipfulness and horror as they recognized the man and also realized that he wasn't wearing anything else. And that the trench coat was only being held closed by his hand.
"Don't turn her down just yet!" he shouted at the execs. "She's made a lot of money with a lot of crap so far – never fear, I will take her under my wing and teach her my secrets of long-lasting literary crap. She will know all the sacred techniques of explicit torture scenes, leather-clad assassins and evil chickens. As my new apprentice, girl, your novels shall defile the New York Bestsellers list for years to come!"
As he finished his declaration, he struck a pose that unfortunately involved both arms flung outwards at the sky. Mutely, one of the publishing executives slid forward a contract and Stephanie signed it without taking her eyes off of the many self-inflicted scars adorning this man's genitalia.
"C'mon, we've got work to do!" said the stranger, and he put his arm around Stephanie, then started leading her out of the boardroom.
One of the executives shouted after him "You've saved us, great sir! You are very kind to do this for her." Over his shoulder, the man replied with "I'm not just kind. I'm MOTHERFUCKING GOODKIND, and the world isn't ready for the shit we are about to unleash."

***

Meanas (trafalgoron/m45) is dead. Police identified the body as Victoria. A coronary report indicated that she was a vampire. The census bureau confirms that she was associated with the Evil Vampires.


It is now Epilogue 5. 8 hours remaining.

Oh yeah

[D'riss]

Mockra, on 29 October 2009 - 10:32 PM, said:

Mockra, on 21 October 2009 - 10:35 PM, said:

Popping in for a SeC Just to post. Haven't rEad, haven't caught up. I'll be back later to dO a real read Through. Please please please, i'll pay you a huNdred dollars... no TalK of Dragon Sex.

Mockra, on 28 October 2009 - 06:29 PM, said:

Guys I think Ruse has it right. Up till now I haven't really been sure but the more I think about it the more it makes sense. After night ended I went back and , looked at some of Emur's posts with the Ruse case in mind. Really think Emur is not town and possibly killer vamp or WW. Don't know for sure if he is Wolf or Evil vamp, but they way he has played to this point makes me think non town.


*snip*

I am Jason Scott, or Jason Jenks. Coded in my First Post. I am a Lawyer who makes false documents. once per night I can create a false set of papers that will force one person to be incarcerated. I am a town guard. Other than night 2 when I guarded Tellan, I have guarded Emur every other night. 0 night kills with the exception of last night. He automatically assumed that the kill was a werewolf.. when the scene itself is rather ambiguous. (Bite marks) Why would he assume werewolf? If you were town wouldn't you assume vampire like Telas and I did? No, he assumed werewolf because his kill as the last remaining Vampire killer didn't go through ( I guarded it) . he knows it has to be a WW kill.

That was why I was going after Emur so hard, thats why I didn't believe his reveal. I might be wrong. I did make a leap there.. but why in the world would he assume a Wolf killed Alk..... like I said it doesn't add up.

Maybe he is the Mayor, maybe D'rek gave the bisexual zombie a name and not the mayor, maybe he wasn't protecting Olar, Maybe he really thought it was a WW kill. I don't know but damn if it doesn't add up.

Path-Shaper, on 29 October 2009 - 10:32 PM, said:

It is Book 5: Midnight Sun. 1 hour, 59 minutes remaining.

13 players alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Hood's Path,Kaschan,Kessobahn, Korvalain, Meanas, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Ruse,Silanah,Telas

7 votes to lynch. 7 to go to night.

5 votes Mockra (Emurlahn, Kaschan,Korvalain, Kessobahn,Meanas,)
4 votes Kessobahn (Olar Ethil, Telas, D'riss, Mockra )
1 vote Silanah (Silanah)


Not voted: Ampelas, Hood's Path Ruse,

-ment

Meanas, on 29 October 2009 - 10:46 PM, said:

Sorry, I'm only half focusing on the thread, hence the sluggish replies. Anyhow, I never said I was the redheaded girl. I'm the dark haired chick, who ran away after the first two got royally pwnd. I am a tourist, Lady Dracula. I came to town looking to kill one of the people messing with my late husband's genre. As such I have a 1 shot vig, useable at any time. I am technically a vampire, but due to the circumstances my win condition is that of the town. After Mockra's reveal I don't know what to think, and I have work and food calling me away, so I shall

remove vote

And leave you guys to sort it out.

Not sure why people think meanas was trying to get kess lynched. you can see he is voting for mockra and as i made it clear i would switch before going to bed if he had of stayed quiet mockra would have had six votes and been the only viable lynch. His reveal though (which was obviously bullshit given the cf) seems more as a response to mockra's reveal. It definitely seems like he is defending kessobahn rather than trying to harm him.

[D'riss]

Kessobahn, on 30 October 2009 - 01:25 AM, said:

What happened was Meanas defended me by saying he used a vig kill on me on day 3, which failed, and that was why he thought I was Van Helsing, and said he had the vig kill because he was an unaligned character who just happened to be a vampire. He CF'd as a Evil Vamp, specifically the red-haired one from the scene, which means that the Evil Vamps tried to kill me, failed, then threw one of their members to the dogs in order to get rid of me by doing a really bad fake-reveal.

Speaking of reveals, I won't tell you my character's name, becase quite frankly you won't believe me. But I will tell you that I'm unaligned, but share my VC with the town - specifically, once all the Cullens, Evil Vampires and werewolves are dead, I win, and if the Town survive, they win too. I'm essentially a Town member, but too badass (and if you're a evil vamp, you'll remember that word) to be associated with Twilight characters - no offense to you guys, it's just the books. I get to wound one person every night, and can only die from being lynched - no night actions will work, can work, and indeed haven't worked, otherwise Meanas wouldn't have effectively killed himself to throw so much doubt on me after he was CF'd. Sounds implausible? Sure it does. But consider how so much attention was put upon me by Telas and Olar Ethil after day 3. One attempt to kill me failed, and suddenly cases are springing up against me?

If you lynch me, which you almost certainly will, and I CF as a tourist - or a foreigner or whichever place I end up CFing as whichever name I end up being CF'd as - not as an Evil Vampire, or as a Cullen or as a werewolf, then I heavily advise you lynch Telas and Olar as soon as possible, as they will be scum.

This getting ridiculous.

Path-Shaper, on 19 October 2009 - 11:38 PM, said:

Game Specific Rules and Mechanics:
Factions:

There are 5 factions, each unique from one another.

The town of Forks (Town)
The Cullen family of vampires (a merc-like faction)
The Queleti werewolves (a merc-like action)
The Evil Vampires (Scum)
The Coven (Scum)


Bella,the books' protaganist, is initially factionless and can be recruitedinto either the Cullens, Queleti or Town. Whichever faction gets herwill gain a big advantage.

there is no mention of any other factionless players. If there was a set of players who began as outside of town why are they not mentioned. Pathshaper specifically mentions bella and no other. Everytime someone has claimed one of these unaligned roles they end up being scum. Case in point, dk claimed town and came back as tourist. If by some chance you are unaligned to use your term, then by extension it seems highly likely that you are recruitable and as we can only remove you by lynch according to your reveal, possibly the holy grail of recruits.

[D'riss]

This is the night 3 results

Path-Shaper, on 27 October 2009 - 12:36 AM, said:

Thestreets of Forks did not have a history of violence, but the victorianarchitecture and dead trees rustling in the wind were spooky enough todiscourage most women from walking the streets alone at night. Not sofor these three women, each slowly creeping through town in thedarkness of the overcast sky.

They were each closing in on a single high-walled alley in a lesser-known part of town. The red-headed one(meanas) arrived first and continued into the alley without hesitation. The blonde(serc),who was in truth stalking the red-head, was about to follow when acrossbow quarrel tore into her stomach. As she began crawling away inexcruciating pain, she became aware of a man with a crossbow and astrange hat(Kesso) standing over her. "Go home, little girl" he said, and ashe spoke the last word he was already spinning to duck under thered-head's dagger, sweeping out her legs with a kick. As the red-headwas mid-fall he hammered the butt of his crossbow into her face. "Youtoo."

Watching from down the block, the black-haired girl(??) quickly decided she had pressing business on the other side of town.


The night was filled with screams, moans and some kinkier stuff, too, but no one has died.

cross referenced with this

Kessobahn, on 30 October 2009 - 02:19 AM, said:

I wounded Tellan on the first night, no-one on the second (I wanted to see if anything would happen at the bar), Serc on the thirdand Alkend on the fourth. My wounding ability resolves higher thankilling on the stack, so I wounded Alkend by accident before he gotnightkilled. I don't think that helped the killers but it did make mefeel pretty damn silly.

so if we use this info meanas attacked kesso.
serc was attacking meanas
kesso attacked serc
and an unknown was possibly investigating one of them.

[Path-Shaper]

The Epilogue of Book 5, Midnight Sun is over.


No one has died.


It is now Book 6: Revenge of the Evil Chicken


12 players alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn,Hood'sPath,Kaschan, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Mockra, Olar Ethil,Ruse, Silanah, Telas


Not voted: Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn,Hood'sPath,Kaschan, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Mockra, Olar Ethil,Ruse,Silanah, Telas





31 hours and 48 minutes are left.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 30 October 2009 - 10:15 AM

[D'riss]

ok, no one died, which is strange considering the reveal fest we have had so far.

vote kessobahn

I think i am right in being skeptical about anyone who reveals unaligned. Meanas was clearly trying to protect you with his reveal, and two other players have tried to pi you, so if you come back scum it points toward them as well. If you are evil vamp it will benefit our chance of winning, but not aid the wolves, and if mockra is only a guard his chances of winning as the last cullen are pretty much nonexistant. If you are telling the truth and are a tourist and not part of the town it will also remove a possible recruitable player while not aiding the wolves condition of removing us.

[D'riss]

Ruse, on 29 October 2009 - 11:13 PM, said:

Mockra, on 29 October 2009 - 11:07 PM, said:

@ Ruse

Ok go find someone elses first post and match it to a twilight name.... go on. I'll wait.

And have you ever read a vampire book??? have you ever read about werewolves?? Vampires have 1 weapon... their teeth. they Bite. Wolves have big big mother f-ing claws. as well as teeth. Vamps are civilized people.. werewolves are animals. Which do you think would kill with a bite? Which do you think would tear off someone's head and shit down their neck? Like I said. When the NK's start up again, you'll know where to look.

EDIT to take out a quote and mention Ruse

Your a moron. Vampires have a hell of a lot more weapons then a pair of stupid fangs. Seriously if Meanas hasn't messed up I would have lynched you.

that reads really badly, i dotn care how much you rant and rave. When scum gets caught out i dont feel they have messed up, i just feel smug. This sounds bitter and to follow up with...

Ruse, on 29 October 2009 - 11:44 PM, said:

Telas, on 29 October 2009 - 11:15 PM, said:

Ruse, on 29 October 2009 - 11:13 PM, said:

Mockra, on 29 October 2009 - 11:07 PM, said:

@ Ruse

Ok go find someone elses first post and match it to a twilight name.... go on. I'll wait.

And have you ever read a vampire book??? have you ever read about werewolves?? Vampires have 1 weapon... their teeth. they Bite. Wolves have big big mother f-ing claws. as well as teeth. Vamps are civilized people.. werewolves are animals. Which do you think would kill with a bite? Which do you think would tear off someone's head and shit down their neck? Like I said. When the NK's start up again, you'll know where to look.

EDIT to take out a quote and mention Ruse

Your a moron. Vampires have a hell of a lot more weapons then a pair of stupid fangs. Seriously if Meanas hasn't messed up I would have lynched you.

So you are saying Meanas definitely messed up? In other words, he's on your team?

Last I checked, we were testing his reveal and by proxy several others with his lynch.

I was trying to give you the benifit of the doubt but your also a moron. Lets see shall we what the fuck do we call it when someone decides that there best option is to reveal as fucking draculas wife. Messing the fuck up. No wonder Morgy always ends up looking like a fucking genius when you use this kind of logic to connect dots.

Mockra I couldn't care a rats ass about you coding in your name. But if you are really a guard and if you ever have the role again and decide to code. Do not code your name in your first post. Code guard. Then code your name later on. Why cause any moron with access to google can come up with the names of characters in this obviously moronic book set. If Meanas hadn't messed up (revealing as a fucking dracula, Moron) then I was going to happily vote for you. Why cause who in there right mind would believe a guard code posted on day 5 of the game. That smacks of scummy desperation to me. However you can bless your lucky stars that Meanas decided to mess up and reveal himself (as a fucking dracula, moron) to the thread and get a nice speed lynch. I feel that lynching Mockra or Telas would give us more information then Meanas but you don't get to reveal as the wife of dracula and not get lynched.

Also Mockra have you ever read any vampire books other then twilight. Try Ann rice for starters then graduate on to Bram then finish off with Dresden. In all of those books vamps have just one weapon there teeth, Moron. Lets see a WW is a friggin huge wolf. Who yes has claws but also has teeth and is much more prone to biting and killing with them then a vampire. STOP READING TWILIGHT it is obviously shit. Go get a real book about either vamps or ww's then talk to me.

... the angriest post of the game seems kinda harsh and ott. I also dont see why you want to lynch telas, who pushed and pushed until we got the reveal out of mockra, meanas and kess effectively catching two scum and one potential scum.

Ruse, on 29 October 2009 - 11:46 PM, said:

Telas, on 29 October 2009 - 11:13 PM, said:

Because DKT was a Tourist and that means Omtose was probably truly town.

That strange cause I am pretty sure that we have had someone CF as town not as a tourist. Which means that I don't trust anything that someone who CF's as not town has said.

100% agree with this statement. giving you the benefit of the doubt, as you reach the right conclusions but just seem to have worded it badly and disliked how people responded to what you thought read as an innocent statement. there was no call for the rant though, or the petulant lynch you statement toward telas just because he questioned you about the wording of your post.

[Kaschan]

I thought Kesso was inno before, but I really don't see a scenario in which it would make sense for Meanas to protect him unless he was scum. Especially since the evil vampires wouldn't actually need to kill a member of the town to win.

Vote Kessobahn

[Hood's Path]

Ok, I'm here and reading up on the thread.

[Emurlahn]

Have we hit all scum every day lynch?

[D'riss]

Yep i would say we are doing pretty bloody well.

[Ampelas]

Back as well. Another night and no deaths? Well I guess we have eliminated a lot of the killers now?

I agree with Kaschan and D'riss above. I can't think of any good reason why Meanas would protect someone, or set up a town person when it doesn't help them win. I also find the reveal to be pretty hard to swallow.

I'll hold off voting for now since a good number of people normally start showing up soon, but certainly today Kesso is my suspect number 1.

[D'riss]

i dont have much time today and over the weekend, so dont have the luxury of holding off. Will try to get on a bit later.

[Ampelas]

Yeah every lynch has been a winner. I'm not sure if its a sign of how much scum is out there, or we really have just been that lucky.

[Hood's Path]

Wow, Evil vamps have not had a good game. Both made stupid mistakes and got lynched very quickly. Not that I'm complaining lol hopefully the last one eventually suffers from the same condition. Considering James and Victoria are the big baddies and removed, I would say the killing capabilities of the evil vamps are finished. The only one left according to the Twilight wiki is Laurent, a black dude who tried to be vegetarian for a while and just chills with the other two. Dunno what he would do though.

Ok, one of the biggest things I noticed on my readthrough were some ofthe terribad attempts to PI Kesso. This one by Kaschan was woeful.

Kaschan said:

]Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but prior to this noone even hinted atthe possibility that Omtose would be in a separate faction. Ergo, Kessobahn knew this before Omtose got modkilled.So given that Omtose claimed Kessobahn was in the bar Night 1, Iconclude that Kesso and Omtose became lovers that night. This meansthat Kesso doesn't have a NA, or at least if he does didn't use it onNight 1.

Also, the fact that Omtose was in a separate group isn't something thatshould really concern scum - their factions are clearly defined, afterall, so they know exactly who is not on their team. But it wouldconcern an inno, since there is the possibility that Omtose was workingwith the town. This leads me to believe that Kesso is an inno.

Kaschan, on 29 October 2009 - 06:07 PM, said:

Telas, on 29 October 2009 - 05:50 PM, said:

See I find issue with that.

1) Omtose said nothing about Kesso being in the bar night 1, he said Olar was NOT in the bar night 1.
2) Trying to say that Kesso correctly 'knew' Omtose was separate assumes that Omtose was, in fact, separate (still under debate considering how fragile the Coven seemed). People guess right and wrong all the time. Korv finding Serc was scum for the wrong reasons, for example.
3) How the hell do you know that scum factions are cleared defined? I would have thought that Beru noob symping Galain on Day 1 was pretty much clear evidence that the scum factions do NOT necessarily know all of their members.

edit: This is @Kaschan

1) Oops, it was Night 2 he said Kesso was in the bar. My bad.

2) The CF makes it pretty clear that Omtose was separate, to me. He explicitly does not CF the same way as the Coven, nor does a zombie fit in with what I understand the Coven to be. There was nothing whatsoever to suggest that Omtose was not regular town, even with him being a zombie. There's no mention of a separate faction in the intro posts either. No way does Kessobahn somehow manage to guess that Omtose is going to CF differently to everyone else.

3) What I mean by the scum factions being clearly defined is the following. If you are in a scum faction, then I think it's fair to assume that you're going to be told this in your role PM. So if a lover comes to you and says: "Baby, I'm in some weird tourist faction!" it's not going to matter to you, since you have no reason to assume that he is with you. But if you're town, then when your lover makes a similar statement, you have to ask yourself whether that means he's with you or against you. And this is what I see Kesso asking himself as he made that post.

Isort of agree that the odd CF of Omtose makes it more likely he wastown rather than anything else, yet his whole mechanism is based on thefact that Kesso guessed he would have an odd CF, which to be honest wasnot hard to speculate considering we knew the guy was a zombie. And I'mwith Telas on the scum factions not being clearly defined. Besides,'tourist' isn't a faction, Omtose would've known what group he was in,and that his CF would come up as tourist, so even if they were loversand exchanged faction info, Kesso wouldn't have known he would have anodd CF, he would've known exactly what faction he was in. So I'm sorry,but that doesn't PI Kesso. At all, really.

Oh, and I looked on the wiki for a girl with black hair, so that we might get a possible ID on the black haired chick who watches Van Helsing and the other girls. I came up with this:

Quote

Emily Young is Sam Uley's fiancée and second cousin to LeahClearwater. While dating Leah, Sam imprinted upon Emily when shevisited and began pursuing her. She is described as having copper skin,raven black hair, and three long disfiguring scars running down theright side of her face and down her arms as the result of Sam phasinginto a wolf too close to her. The left side of her face is extremelybeautiful, as she was before the scars. These scars pull one of heralmond shaped eyes down and also tug on the side of her mouth, causingher to have a scowl on one side of her face. Despite this, Emily seemsto bear no resentment towards Sam or any other members of the pack.Bella feels that Emily is the mother figure to the pack because shecooks all of their meals and they feel very comfortable and open in herhouse.

She is human, granted, but she is associated with the WWs. The fact the CF comes out as 'associated with' does not necessarily have to mean they share the same species, so I reckon we have a Q-something. She might be a finder or something.