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Lux Aeterna vs O Fortuna

Poll: Lux Aeterna vs O Fortuna (12 member(s) have cast votes)

Which do you prefer?

  1. O Fortuna (8 votes [66.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 66.67%

  2. Luz Aeterna (4 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

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#1 User is offline   Mushroom 

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 04:39 AM

Fair chance you've heard both of these songs as part of movie trailers or in commericals and done to death. If not, here are two modern masterpieces you probably need to hear. One made only about a decade ago, the other one in 1937.


Carl Orf's - O Fortuna

Clint Mansel's - Lux Aeterna

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 04:58 AM

O Fortuna, AKA Apopcalypse music, is from Carmina Burana and fucking awesome, and Lux Aerterna AKA Requiem for a Dream is almost as good.

Edit: It's kind of weird how this music can be both creepy/doomish and still be relaxing in some way.

This post has been edited by HoosierDaddy: 11 October 2009 - 05:32 AM

Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 11 October 2009 - 05:14 AM

Oh,and if anyones interested hear is the full version where O Fortuna comes from;
Carl Orff: Carmina Burana

It is the University of California Orchestra performing it.
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Posted 11 October 2009 - 10:28 AM

funny thing, a mate of mine first heard o fortuna in one of the Omen movies, so he insists its creepy.

I first heard it in Excalibur, when the knights and arthur are riding to the final battle while the land
recovers from the drought and famine that has been happening, so I always think of it as being a very upbeat piece.
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Posted 11 October 2009 - 11:43 AM

Both are equally bombastic. Depends on the context I guess.
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Posted 11 October 2009 - 12:59 PM

Of the two... O Fortuna! wins. I quite like Carmina Burana but I prefer the rowdy, drunken stuff from the In Taberna sequence later on in the piece to the bombast of the beginning...

For ultimate bombast there's the truly extraordinary Dies Irae from Verdi's Requiem, which beats both of them into a cocked hat, if you ask me...

And the Dies Irae from Mozart's Requiem isn't too shabby either...

There always Mars: The Bringer of War from Holst's Planet Suite. If you ever get a chance to see this played live, do so. I saw the Halle Orchestra performing this a few years ago. It was an amazing experience...

They also played William Walton's Belshazzar's Feast, which is a fairly mental piece of itself; it needs a full orchestra, a full choir and a full brass band to perform it. You'll be getting into Mahler territory before you see bigger forces needed to play a piece; iirc one of his symphonies specifies two full orchestras, at least, to play it and is often performed with four!

And yes, I'm rather fond of classical music... Just don't get me started on opera; we'll be here all day... :)

[edit - found a better version of the Verdi; with Herbert von Karajan conducting, no less... I'm such a geek :)]

Ooh! Thought of another one; "CAUGHT!" from Philip Glass soundtrack to the movie Powaqqatsi... As a musician friend of mine says; he really likes his arpeggios... Couldn't find it on YouTube though. Pruitt Igoe from the soundtrack to Koyaanisqatsi is pretty cool too; it starts off slow and then bang!...

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Posted 12 October 2009 - 10:53 AM

Having never seen 'Requiem for a Dream', I can only judge 'Lux Aeterna' on how it sounds. And how it sounds is like Karl Jenkins on a bad day. Sorry, but there's no contest -- 'O Fortuna' is one of the masterpieces of the classical choral repertoire for a reason, it is simply astonishingly good. Rhythmically inventive, harmonically complex, with a momentum that is irresistible. There are few works which can rival, let alone surpass it.

The ones mentioned above by Stone Monkey are a few. (Especially the Walton -- good call there, especially the chorus 'In Babylon Belshazzar The King' from Belshazzar's Feast.)

Some others I would suggest are:

Benjamin Britten's Dies Irae from the War Requiem
Mozart's Confutatis from the Requiem
Arthur Bliss's Song of the Reapers from 'Lie Strewn The White Flocks'
Holst's Folly's Song from the Choral Symphony
Brahms's Denn Wir Haben Hie Keine Bleibende Stadt from the Requiem

Non-choral pieces might include Beethoven's Symphony No.9 Scherzo, Tchaikovsky's Symphony No. 6 Scherzo, and of course, Bizet's Carmen Prelude :) ()
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Posted 25 October 2009 - 09:08 AM

I reverse votes. After having listened to both a couple of times tonight I tie my love of O Fortuna into movie love, whereas my love of Lux Aeterna is based on sheer composition. Both are fantastic, Lux's dynamics is the key for me. Absolutely fantastic.
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Posted 11 November 2009 - 05:39 PM

Sephiroths fight music wins!
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Posted 25 February 2016 - 12:22 PM

After having listened to both a couple of times tonight I tie my love of O Fortuna into movie love, whereas my love of Lux Aeterna is based on sheer composition. Both are fantastic, Lux's dynamics is the key for me.
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Posted 25 February 2016 - 03:54 PM

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Posted 25 February 2016 - 10:17 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 25 February 2016 - 03:54 PM, said:

Is more than six years a new record for a thread necro?


Pretty sure Gust has that beat somewhere. maybe a record in this subforum though
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Posted 26 February 2016 - 05:12 AM

I love necros like this! Shows up all the coll stuff that was going on before I joined!

I prefer O Fortuna myself, but I also really like Era's The Mass. In fact that entire album is awesome.
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Posted 26 February 2016 - 12:36 PM

Of course, when it comes to trailer music, the real answer is Heart of Courage by Two Steps from Hell.

Or possibly Tristan, also by Two Steps From Hell.
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Posted 26 February 2016 - 09:06 PM

Was Mushroom banned for this very thread? Seems overly provocative.
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Posted 26 February 2016 - 09:10 PM

I think it was the crazy Muslim joke he posted in the Inn.

Allthough I think I recall him coming back later on.
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Posted 26 February 2016 - 09:15 PM

One, or the pair, of the Dies Irae and Tuba Mirum from Verdi's Requiem beat both of these into a bloody, quivering pulp imo
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Posted 26 February 2016 - 09:33 PM

View PostHoosierDaddy, on 25 October 2009 - 09:08 AM, said:

.... After having listened to both a couple of times tonight I tie my love of O Fortuna into movie love, whereas my love of Lux Aeterna is based on sheer composition. Both are fantastic, Lux's dynamics is the key for me. Absolutely fantastic.



View Postrasha, on 25 February 2016 - 12:22 PM, said:

After having listened to both a couple of times tonight I tie my love of O Fortuna into movie love, whereas my love of Lux Aeterna is based on sheer composition. Both are fantastic, Lux's dynamics is the key for me.


What in the fuck?

This post has been edited by HoosierDaddy: 26 February 2016 - 09:34 PM

Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 26 February 2016 - 09:35 PM

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Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 26 February 2016 - 10:14 PM

Maybe you just have a really ardent fan base, HD.
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