[Alkend]

See, that's what I don't like. You played the previous game. I didn't. So you could easily just claim the role.

I think I can pretty much narrow it down to you and Tulas are both scum or you are both inno now, no other scenario, given the oddity with the 'food.'

You know as well as I do that I can't go and discuss my PM w/r to content. But it DOES say that I am RI.

edit: clarify

This post has been edited by Alkend: 14 October 2009 - 02:15 PM

[Karosis]

you say you have no role, it says you can claim kirk or spock or scotty or chef in my case. if yours is just ri then fine but i dont believe you. its kind of convenient the way tulas pi'ed you and now your doing the same for him.

[Alkend]

Also, do you trust Tulas Shorn? He said he blocked me twice in a row and we still have had 'ship issues' and 'kills.' Dunno what angle you're playing at here.

[Karosis]

Alkend, on 14 October 2009 - 02:03 PM, said:

Right now either you AND Tulas are both scum and trying to play a misleading game, or you are scum and trying to be very careful with your wording, or you are both inno. In other words, Tulas is PI to me.

I dont understand this post either. it makes no sense that you say we could both be scum but your consider him PI.

[Karosis]

Alkend, on 14 October 2009 - 02:16 PM, said:

Also, do you trust Tulas Shorn? He said he blocked me twice in a row and we still have had 'ship issues' and 'kills.' Dunno what angle you're playing at here.

i dont trust him. he claims he couldnt act night 2 because there was no food, but pathshaper informed me day 3 the replicators failed when i went to make food. It also seems odd that he should have so much info about what is going wrong, if an action fails you usually arent told. why would a guard be informed if their guard worked. makes no sense. this aint spycraft there arent scenes,s o actions like guard should always be ambigious.

[Alkend]

You have both made comments about the food. If anything, that links you two together.

In order for you to think I am lying, you'd have to also say Tulas is lying. If that's your angle, fine, whatever, but if you're inno, from your POV, we are likely to both be scum or inno.

[Alkend]

That's a fair set of points, but we've had a lot of 'weird' things in this thread so far. And it's a bit frustrating now to sit here and basically have you try to make accusations against me based upon the previous game just because you played and got the same role, IF YOU ARE INNO.

Back in a bit.... getting ready for work.

[Karosis]

i would opt for scum. hence the vote earlier. but i want to see if anyone else clarifies that they got info about failed actions because of system failures.

[Karosis]

Alkend, on 14 October 2009 - 02:21 PM, said:

That's a fair set of points, but we've had a lot of 'weird' things in this thread so far. And it's a bit frustrating now to sit here and basically have you try to make accusations against me based upon the previous game just because you played and got the same role, IF YOU ARE INNO.

Back in a bit.... getting ready for work.

thats got nothing to do with it. i dont trust you and your play has been suspicious all game. you claim ri when i dont think there are specifically ri's in play. you say me and tulas should be scum yet pi hm. you push a lot of cases and have generally be at the centre of things the whole game.

for me, scum at the moment is looking like atrahal, tulas and you.

[Tulas Shorn]

Based on what people said about their suspicions most recently it breaks down like this:

Karosis doesn't like Thyr and Alkend. And now is suspicious of me because he doesn't trust that I can get ship info.

Tennes doesn't like Kaschan, Atrahal and Telas (with eyes on Thyr)

I don't like Telas, Kasch, Thyr.

Thyr said he "believes" Atrahal.

The way these lines have drawn I would put possible scum as Thyr, Atrahal, Telas and Kaschan

I've come to believe both Karosis and Tennes to a point, and Alkend is as PI as I can make anyone, which isn't saying a whole lot.

[Karosis]

wait there were a few nights when people didnt die. you say you guarded alkend, who else did you guard, and which nights did you guard alkend and which nights didnt people die?

[Tulas Shorn]

Karosis, on 14 October 2009 - 02:31 PM, said:

Alkend, on 14 October 2009 - 02:21 PM, said:

That's a fair set of points, but we've had a lot of 'weird' things in this thread so far. And it's a bit frustrating now to sit here and basically have you try to make accusations against me based upon the previous game just because you played and got the same role, IF YOU ARE INNO.

Back in a bit.... getting ready for work.

thats got nothing to do with it. i dont trust you and your play has been suspicious all game. you claim ri when i dont think there are specifically ri's in play. you say me and tulas should be scum yet pi hm. you push a lot of cases and have generally be at the centre of things the whole game.

for me, scum at the moment is looking like atrahal, tulas and you.

I could believe that Alkend is scum, because my guard wouldn't mean much if he were paired (and we haven't hit any scum yet). He could be a symp type role too, which would explain why my guard didn't accomplish anything and he can now cast suspicion on him off on me as well.

I wish I had guarded Atrahal again TBH, but after failing night 2 and a kill going through, I was thinking that starting over again might not help much. So I picked the scummiest seeming person at the time, choosing Alkend over Telas.

@ Karosis

Night 1 Atrahal
Night 2 Tried Atrahal but failed.
Night 3 Alkend
Night 4 Alkend

Sabatoge and kills happened on Nights 2 and 4

[Karosis]

i am heading home in twenty, i want to hear from everyone before we decide whats going to happen. its gotta be dday, i dont think theres a symp, so its got to be three klingons.

[Karosis]

how much time we got?

[Tulas Shorn]

@Karosis,

I tend to agree, which is why I'm less inclined to think Alkend is scum, but can't rule it out. There have been a ton of anons on in the past 15ish minutes or so, which makes me want to know why the hell it's just the 3 of us posting.


And I don't know how much time is left.

[Karosis]

i would think the klingons had seperate actions though to compensate for numbers and many innos knownin other innos.

[Karosis]

going now.

[Alkend]

I'm at work now.

Yes, I could be a symp, but who the hell am I symping then?

I think I'm coming to a consensus in my mind that I am gong to trust both Karosis and Tulas for today's vote. That could be VERY dangerous if they are both scum, but I think enough is being said and done by both that it seems a bit too unpolished to be an orchestrated act. Tennes is VPI by my estimation. So my number one pick is still Telas.

[Alkend]

Some other things to consider are we haven't seen any name claims other than Scotty, who also claimed that Kalse was Sulu.

Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Uruhu, Chekov are unclaimed
Scotty - Tennes
Sulu - Kalse
'Chef' - Karosis
'Guard/Security?' - Tulas Shorn

Probably several 'named' players are dead, could be another RI or two left... ugh hard to say.

[Alkend]

I think if we accept Tennes as inno, we need to see Atrahal as scum, too based on conflicting reveals.