[Kaschan]

Yeah I am done. It's Really not helping matters.

[Path-Shaper]

Alkend, on 12 October 2009 - 07:07 PM, said:

So Kalse was a member of the Drew huh? Is that some kind of Nancy Drew book club?

so much cooler than being part of the Enterprise crew,

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 12 October 2009 - 07:15 PM

[Kaschan]

Didn't see the PS post.... damn

[Atrahal]

Well that was a nice bum rush on Kalse. Ampelas I don't know if your scum or not but this is the second time that you have hammered someone. Which is a scummy move.

I thought for sure that Tennes was scum and that you guys would see that. I knew for a fact that Kalse was inno as we were lovers, but I couldn't use that in a defense of him.

Here is the list of those who voted to lynch Kalse.

Thyrlann, Karosis, Korvalain, Tulas Shorn, Alkend, Kaschan, Ampelas

and here is the lynch list from day 2.

Tulas Shorn, Tennes, Alkend, Karosis, Korvalain, Anthras, Kalse, Ampelas

Now several of you guys are on the same train. But Ampelas hammer both times and Tennes has been scummy. Those are the two who I find most likely to be scum.

[Atrahal]

When was the last time Korbas posted?

[Atrahal]

So what as soon as I can post every one runs away.

[Atrahal]

Hello the thread.

[Kaschan]

I'm still here off and on. Lots of people don't like to talk during night. I will say I agree with you on Tennes though.

As for your lover reveal... hmmm Why couldn't you reveal to save him? at that point wouldn't no lynch be better than lynching an inno? I would think revealing lover after the fact is kind of wasted. or am I missing something?

[Atrahal]

Kaschan, on 12 October 2009 - 07:36 PM, said:

I'm still here off and on. Lots of people don't like to talk during night. I will say I agree with you on Tennes though.

As for your lover reveal... hmmm Why couldn't you reveal to save him? at that point wouldn't no lynch be better than lynching an inno? I would think revealing lover after the fact is kind of wasted. or am I missing something?

I couldn't reveal that we were lovers I asked the mods. So I tried to do the next best thing and build a case on Tennes. Plus I have nothing to hide. It isn't like I get a power or anything since my lover died. If that was the case I wouldn't have said anything. I was also pissed cause I had been forced off of the computer and as soon as I got back on I saw that he had been lynched.

[Atrahal]

I do understand that my reveal is basically useless as the CF for Kalse had already been printed. But his lynch was pure bullshit. There was still time left in the day.

[Atrahal]

No one else around huh. Ok then I am out of here.

[Kaschan]

Gotcha- I keep forgetting we can only reveal Character name. So that makes sense. Did you code anything to eachother? not asking you to reveal what/where, but at somepoint down the line, you might have to prove it, otherwise would be a good way for scum to PI themselves.

[Telas]

I'm around now. Classes are done.

Anyway another inno is unfortunate, but I did not like the hammer with over 2 hours left. Amp's first hammer made sense with 2 minutes left, but not here.
Atrahal did you both code something? Could be important proof at some point. Your reason for the Tennes case does make sense with the reveal though.


Anyone else having problems typing here? This post took too long to write because the board seems like it is not picking up the letters that I am hitting unless I go very slowly, like 1 key per second.
Otherwise it misses like 1/2 the letters and many of the spaces.

[Path-Shaper]

I have that problem all the time,

[Telas]

That sucks, I've never had this before so I was trying to figure out why, doesn't happen on any other site.
Just a pain to deal with.

[Karosis]

revealling during night is a very bad play imo. seriously that should have waited until morning if its true. I dont see why you couldnt or kalse couldnt have revealed that you were lovers, especially when it looked certain that he was going to be lynched?

@telas - are you using ie? that happens in my ie but not mozilla.

[Telas]

Path-Shaper, on 08 October 2009 - 05:38 PM, said:

No hinting or paraphrasing of Role pms, this will be enforced bymodkill. But you are still allowed to claim yourself as Captain Kirk oranyone else that comes to mind.

From OP. Hard to say what is actually acceptable to reveal, so it is possible that PS wouldn't allow them to say. But if that is true then it falls under talking about role pms, in which case it would seem odd that now it is allowed to be revealed. It is still talking about role pms even though one of the two is dead.

Not sure at this point- could be a good scum tactic, but could also be true (evidenced by trying to derail train to another, anger over needless death of partner resulting in poor-timed reveal).


and yes, I had been using IE, but now on mozilla and it is working fine. Thanks.

[Korvalain]

I'd say that reveals aren't allowed, period, whether the partner is alive or dead, but since there has been no modfist smacking him into oblivion yet, I guess we have to use our own wits and common sense.

I'll go with believing you, mostly cause I want to, but why you claim this at night, I don't know. Would help if you had some proof, but I guess it can't be helped if there is none.

[Karosis]

i am sure you can reveal info, you just have to be careful. it seems clear to me some people think others are revealing info on thread, alkend claimed that for korlat did he not? and for others? (i think it was alkend but the names are similar and i am tired so cant be sure) Plus revealing is a valid tactic and any game we have had where its expresselly forbidden havent really worked. obviously quoting your pm is against the rules and modkillable, but whats the point in having finders or guards if they cant say they found guilty or think they blocked a kill? likewise in the previous star trek game scotty could only repair systems he discovered where damaged, how did he discover it? well people had to alert him on thread. so there was always a risk. for example i could tell you that the replicators are no longer working and veal is now off the menu. of course food isnt a priority and scotty more than likely has something more important to do, but thats just an example. spock might say i think the tricorders arent working, or the sensor array seems down and hope scotty picks up on it, but its still a reveal of sort. removing that aspect of the game is basically cutting off our access to info and we rely solely on cf's to decide what to do as th einnos can make no strategy or attempt no gameplan beyond, lynch wait, lynch wait.

In other words, YOU SHOULD HAVE REVEALED EARLIER.

in fact kalse and yourself had both perfect oppurtunities to respond. kalse only had to say, one person on thread knows i am innocent and has done fromt he start or something equally vague and nondisclosing. to reveal on thread that your lover after the lynch, during night and say you couldnt during the day for fear of modkill makes literally no sense. why would the rule suddenly change? you are still claiming a role, and as you are not dead the role hasnt changed.

lets just colour me suspicious and leave it at that.

[Kaschan]

@ Karosis thats what I was getting at in my post above. He has basically tried to CI himself after the fact. Lets hope that they each coded eachothers name into a post somewhere, or frankly... we are forced to be very skeptical at the least of the reveal.

The reveal after the fact is what gets me... Why can you reveal now, that you were lovers, and you couldn't reveal before? It makes no sense. It just seems when you have an inno/your lover about to go down, you try a little harder to avoid the lynch. I know you tried a Tennes case, but you could of at least hinted at inside info that Kalse was inno. Me and Alk and amp all could have voted Tennes and I think that would have been a Lynch or L-1 with 2 hours to go. Both alk and I expressed a willingness to vote Tennes and Amp seems to just want to be the hammer, doesn't matter who.