[Spite]

Gamelon, on 23 September 2009 - 03:00 PM, said:

screw it, heading home. i urge people to vote for silchas so we can see spites true colours.

Oh don't run away. We were just starting to have fun.

[Anomandaris]

Well, that hardly narrows the list of suspects if it's true.

[Spite]

Anomandaris, on 23 September 2009 - 03:03 PM, said:

Well, that hardly narrows the list of suspects if it's true.

If what is true.

[Anomandaris]

If the captor released them, it is futile to figure out who was captured by who hasn't posted since the first scene. By my count, that includes Barghast, Emurlahn, HP, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Ruse and Silchas. I think. I might be a little off with that list, but still.

[Anomandaris]

Well, I'm going to watch some TV. Be back in an hour or so, probably.

[D'riss]

The scenes are representation of actions yes? So it wouldn't really be necessary to keep someone from posting, since it is based on already established parameters, namely the actions and roles. If not then I am missing something.

[Gamelon]

Spite, on 23 September 2009 - 03:00 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 23 September 2009 - 02:54 PM, said:

actually if they cant post, and it doesnt seem liek they have been released by the scene then it is someone who hasnt been on since the first scene.

I completely agree. Lets take a look shall we. Well here is your last post before the first scene.

Gamelon, on 23 September 2009 - 12:56 PM, said:

for them oment my main suspects are spite, silchas and barghast.

@spite - did barghast manage to make a lover connection with you yesterday?

Then here is the scene

Path-Shaper, on 23 September 2009 - 01:39 PM, said:

A warehouse.

A blond woman is secured to a chair with cufflinks. Medical equipment lies here and there on a desk placed in front of her. Dim light removes the shadows without blinding her.

"You and I should have a talk," a female voice says, belonging to a figure conveniently staying in the shadows. "I am willing to make it civilized."

"What if I do not answer? You can't keep me here forever."

"I will release you before sundown, or when we're done talking. I hope you realize that last option is in your best interest. Let's make it simple. I will ask you questions, you answer. I do not expect you to be completely honest, let that be clear. Once I'm satisfied, I'll let you go - or at nightfall."

Now we have the second scene

Path-Shaper, on 23 September 2009 - 02:22 PM, said:

"So, let's start with an easy first question: where are you from, youngling?"

"Russia."

"And are you here all by yourself, or are you part of a larger operation?"

"Afraid someone will come after you?"

"Just answer it, darling."

"I have been approached by a man, who said he was working for the FSB as well. I have since unmasked him as a liar."

"Why do you suspect this man was lying to you?"

"I toasted to the continuiing good health of the head of the Russian Secret Service. It is known to everyone working for him, but not to outsiders, that he is suffering from dementia and hasn't sat behind his desk for the past three months. He is de facto already replaced. This particular man didn't contradict me, therefore, he could never have been on my side."

Oh and your first post after the second scene.

Gamelon, on 23 September 2009 - 02:23 PM, said:

that look like an interrogation.

No posts in between. But you pick up right were you left off.

why exactly are you trying to determine who it is in the scene anyway, as i understand it that would result in a modkill for the person. and as you accuse me of being the russian birdy and make a case as such why are you still voting for me unless your not actually looking for scum but are just trying to remove players? i am more interested in the info given, clearly someone out there has info about a lover relationship which has indicated to them that one half of it is lying, yet you are interested only in the player being interrogated.

[Liosan]

I am here and gonna catch up.

just an FYI to everyone I am swamped today and will be checking only ocassionally. around lunch and then at dinner. I have about 15 min now so I will try to catch up and add something constructive.

[Spite]

@ Gamelon. Well from the scene it seemed like it was the Russian who had the lover info. So by going after him I am getting a lot of info out.
I am leaving my vote on you as I don't have a better place to put it right now.


Edit @ gamelon

This post has been edited by Spite: 23 September 2009 - 04:17 PM

[Gamelon]

but you think its me, right? therefore you think i am russian and are still voting for me.

that tells me a few major things.

firstly your not russian

and secondly your not town either.

[Liosan]

Spite, on 23 September 2009 - 11:48 AM, said:

Gamelon, on 23 September 2009 - 08:02 AM, said:

so glad night didnt actually last twenty four hours, that would have sucked. No cf to explin away korvalain which is a pity, though given the number of near deaths i dont think that will be a problem tonight.

vote spite

You turned that lynch yesterday rather quickly against someone you were happy to vote for when a lynch was unlikely. Also you have filled the thread with nonesense, so seem desperate to get up the levels so its pretty clear you must have some abilities you really want. if you were a symp i would say you were symping silchas, but i get the distinct impression he is just cannon fodder for you to push out front and use as the game goes on.

Yeah I turned a lynch on to Korvalain. Except for the fact that I originally voted for Emurlahn. You must have missed that smart guy. I was the first one to remove my vote for Sil but obviously there were a lot of other people who were having second thoughts about lynching him to. *sarcasm ahead* Unless I am just so good that I was able to vote for someone else and then go offline and convince 7 people to vote for the person that I wasn't voting for* I think that is it. Your trying to strawman a vote on to me.

So OMGUS

Vote Gamelon


Next time come up with a real reason not bullshit.

Oh my... defensive much? I am tempted to vote you for that reaction alone. But thats silly, I am fairly certain you are a spy, and at this point we should be hunting for scum.


One question tho Spite. You have continually insisted that your initial vote on Silchas was a "Joke vote" but when gamelon (or someone) pointed out that the term syndicate was used in the OP you defended your initial "Joke vote". You kept it there until it looked like Sil was going down. And threw it on Emur...the case on him was worse than the one on Sil. Finally a train started on Korv. and you pronptly jumped ship. It really looks like a case of placing a distancing vote, and then realizing the plan was going to back fire. Then frantically trying to get a train started somewhere else.


I know the case on Sil was bush... its your reactions and play after that that has my panties in a bunch.

[Spite]

Gamelon, on 23 September 2009 - 04:17 PM, said:

but you think its me, right? therefore you think i am russian and are still voting for me.

that tells me a few major things.

firstly your not russian

and secondly your not town either.

Ummm slick I was voting for you before the scene. You are the only one here trying to connect the scenes and my vote for you.

I do think that you are the most likely suspect to be the Russian. However Anomandaris brought up a good point about all of the other people who it could be.

That is a pretty baseless accusation there. Smacks of hyper defensiveness to me.

[Spite]

Liosan, on 23 September 2009 - 04:27 PM, said:

Spite, on 23 September 2009 - 11:48 AM, said:

Gamelon, on 23 September 2009 - 08:02 AM, said:

so glad night didnt actually last twenty four hours, that would have sucked. No cf to explin away korvalain which is a pity, though given the number of near deaths i dont think that will be a problem tonight.

vote spite

You turned that lynch yesterday rather quickly against someone you were happy to vote for when a lynch was unlikely. Also you have filled the thread with nonesense, so seem desperate to get up the levels so its pretty clear you must have some abilities you really want. if you were a symp i would say you were symping silchas, but i get the distinct impression he is just cannon fodder for you to push out front and use as the game goes on.

Yeah I turned a lynch on to Korvalain. Except for the fact that I originally voted for Emurlahn. You must have missed that smart guy. I was the first one to remove my vote for Sil but obviously there were a lot of other people who were having second thoughts about lynching him to. *sarcasm ahead* Unless I am just so good that I was able to vote for someone else and then go offline and convince 7 people to vote for the person that I wasn't voting for* I think that is it. Your trying to strawman a vote on to me.

So OMGUS

Vote Gamelon


Next time come up with a real reason not bullshit.

Oh my... defensive much? I am tempted to vote you for that reaction alone. But thats silly, I am fairly certain you are a spy, and at this point we should be hunting for scum.


One question tho Spite. You have continually insisted that your initial vote on Silchas was a "Joke vote" but when gamelon (or someone) pointed out that the term syndicate was used in the OP you defended your initial "Joke vote". You kept it there until it looked like Sil was going down. And threw it on Emur...the case on him was worse than the one on Sil. Finally a train started on Korv. and you pronptly jumped ship. It really looks like a case of placing a distancing vote, and then realizing the plan was going to back fire. Then
frantically trying to get a train started somewhere else.


I know the case on Sil was bush... its your reactions and play after that that has my panties in a bunch.

yeah...cause it looks to me that you are defending gamelon. Which tells me a lot about you.

[Kaschan]

Hmm I don't really get this, why hunt the Russian at all? They're non scum like the rest of us, whats the point, we're hardly going to lynch them are we?
Why get that info out at all? Doesn't it really only help the killers?

Anyway done a bit of a reread, I have a few suspects, but nothing I can pin my hat on.

The closest person is probably Spite, something that has been missed is Liosan made an interesting case on Spite around the time of the lynch yesterday, which has gone unnoticed, or at least unmentioned. Gamelon kind of picked it up, but Liosan laid it out better. Didn't get a post number sadly but maybe around page 13 for those interested in looking at it.
Its not enough for a vote for me, but i'm starting to edge towards it.

Anyway i'm off for a while, will be back before the lynch.

[Kaschan]

Ahh X-post! Well ok that case has been brought back up

Spite I'd prefer an answer rather than just saying someone is defending Gamelon for questioning you.

Definitly going now.

[Spite]

To answer you sil got on and gave some decent reasons to not be lynched. Uptill then I was fine with his lynch as I subscribe to the must lynch theory.

[Liosan]

Spite, on 23 September 2009 - 04:33 PM, said:

yeah...cause it looks to me that you are defending gamelon. Which tells me a lot about you.

How exactly am I defending Gamelon? I brought up these points yesterday. Before the lynch.

[Liosan]

So here you say it was a Total Joke Vote

Spite, on 22 September 2009 - 02:40 PM, said:

As I was saying. My original vote on Silachs was a total joke vote and it has been interesting to see how the train has piled up.

Here you say it was because he gave decent reasons not to be lynched.

Spite, on 23 September 2009 - 04:37 PM, said:

To answer you sil got on and gave some decent reasons to not be lynched. Uptill then I was fine with his lynch as I subscribe to the must lynch theory.

Since When have you needed decent reasons to defend a joke vote.... by definition its a joke.. not real. You are back tracking now. Making no sense. for now

vote Silchas Ruin

still open to other cases, but i really don't like your shifty play. As well as your obvious need to get to high levels as quick as possible.

[Spite]

Liosan, on 23 September 2009 - 04:40 PM, said:

Spite, on 23 September 2009 - 04:33 PM, said:

yeah...cause it looks to me that you are defending gamelon. Which tells me a lot about you.

How exactly am I defending Gamelon? I brought up these points yesterday. Before the lynch.

Next time you don't want to look like you are rushing to someone defense don't include one of their recent quotes.

I would have been perfectly happy letting Sil get lynched. I told him so. He knew the game but laid out some decent reasons to not lynch him. I agreed with his reasons and then removed my vote from him. I left and fully expected to put my vote back on him when I returned. 7 other players in the mean time had decided to remove their vote and put it on Korv. That had absolutely nothing to do with me. But since I was fine with a Korv lynch too I dropped the hammer.

As for trying to understand PS scenes. I don't think that there is anything wrong with trying to figure out who is who in them. Isn't that what you and Gamelon were trying to do with me and Barghast? So the difference is what exactly.

As for worrying about scum knowing about someone. Get a grip. After last night it seems pretty obvious that for as many attackers there seem to be just as many people who have defensive capabilities.

Now Gamelon why would I answer anything about a lover on this thread. If I was Barghast's lover (which I am not) then if I said anything I would be modkilled. Just the same as if you said that you were the person in the interrogation scenes.

Why am I curious about that scene well because a lot of information was passed to us in it. Why wouldn't I be curious? Aren't you curious about it Kaschan?

[Anomandaris]

@Liosan, I don't understand why you're voting for Silchas? You spend the whole post talking about Spite's shifty play, and then slap a vote on Silchas. Are you subscribing to the 'find the symp, vote the master' theory?