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#1 User is offline   Osserc - Lord of the Sky 

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:29 PM

Hello, everyone! This is my first post...

This topic, is all about Kruppe. Your opinion on him, whatever it may be.
Feel free to share it!

My opinion on Kruppe, is that he was a great assett to Gardens of the
Moon. I say that, because he gave some "comedy relief" to the story.

A random topic.
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I like other people's opinions.
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 01:29 AM

Hey Pal,

Kruppe was indeed a slippery character yes

He was there for comic relief only I reckon....the 3rd person narrative was excellent and brought a new insight into his pompous waggle of a walk

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Is it true that Kruppe is in the 2nd book too??

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 04:28 AM

View PostSteamer, on 06 October 2009 - 01:29 AM, said:

Hey Pal,

Kruppe was indeed a slippery character yes

He was there for comic relief only I reckon....the 3rd person narrative was excellent and brought a new insight into his pompous waggle of a walk

Excellent character.....as good as Rake!Posted Image


Is it true that Kruppe is in the 2nd book too??

Thanks,

MudManPosted Image



Well he did have *some* role in the plot, you know that whole Eel and the many goings-ons in his dream-worlds...

As for the 2nd book, no Kruppe does not feature in that book, but the equally awesome Iskaral Pust does. And Kruppe does indeed return in a later book(s) beyond the 2nd one.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 03:52 PM

View PostD, on 06 October 2009 - 04:28 AM, said:


As for the 2nd book, no Kruppe does not feature in that book, but the equally awesome Iskaral Pust does. And Kruppe does indeed return in a later book(s) beyond the 2nd one.


Ah, Pust is ten times ore awesome than Kruppe! But sseing how this is the GotM forum let's not get into this.
As for the OP I agree that Kruppe was one of the reasons of why I enjoyed GotM, although in my opinion he gives his best in MoI
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 09:42 PM

View PostBauchelain the Evil, on 06 October 2009 - 03:52 PM, said:

View PostD, on 06 October 2009 - 04:28 AM, said:

As for the 2nd book, no Kruppe does not feature in that book, but the equally awesome Iskaral Pust does. And Kruppe does indeed return in a later book(s) beyond the 2nd one.


Ah, Pust is ten times ore awesome than Kruppe! But sseing how this is the GotM forum let's not get into this.
As for the OP I agree that Kruppe was one of the reasons of why I enjoyed GotM, although in my opinion he gives his best in MoI



Ah yes I knew who Krupee secretly was :)

Please tell me who Circle Breaker is?!??!?!?!

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 10:08 PM

circle breaker, as it turns out, is one of the only characters in the series to get a happy ending. appropriately, we never hear from him again.
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 11:02 PM

Kruppe LOVES Kruppe! But then, Kruppe must needs confess to being a wee bit biased in the Kruppe department!

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 12:57 AM

View PostSinisdar Toste, on 06 October 2009 - 10:08 PM, said:

<br />circle breaker, as it turns out, is one of the only characters in the series to get a happy ending. appropriately, we never hear from him again.<br />
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yes yes i know this but which of the darujistan characters was he??? Murillio? Crokus? Old Cobb? Meese? The thug @ the door of the inn?

this has been driving me crazzzzzy trying to work it out :D

please tell me

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 06:50 AM

View PostSteamer, on 07 October 2009 - 12:57 AM, said:

yes yes i know this but which of the darujistan characters was he??? Murillio? Crokus? Old Cobb? Meese? The thug @ the door of the inn?
this has been driving me crazzzzzy trying to work it out :)

please tell me


AFAIK it's never revealed who he is. It's simply a random dude who fades away.
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Posted 07 October 2009 - 09:15 AM

Simply said, he was one of Darujistan's guards who happened to be placed he could witness certain meetings and report it after his shift was over.

Just calling him random doesn't do him justice, but that is my opinion.

But talking of Circle Breaker, what was the place that he was guarding? He was thinking of some evil that never should awake again. That left me puzzled since the tyrant is buried somewhere else

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 09:20 AM

Dutch Master of the Deck said:

But talking of Circle Breaker, what was the place that he was guarding? He was thinking of some evil that never should awake again. That left me puzzled since the tyrant is buried somewhere else

He was guarding Despot's Barbican. But this is probably not the best place to discuss this, as we sort of know where he's buried thanks to TTH.
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Posted 18 December 2009 - 06:43 PM

Kruppe is in my opinion the most intelligent person in the entire MBOTF series. The way he keeps his intelligence to himself but still acts as if he is all knowing just creates an air of obnoxiousness but power that makes him so enjoyable. Kruppe does appear in many other books especially in MOI. If you appreciated Kruppe's intelligence then you are in luck because their are other characters in following books that are very similar.
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Posted 18 December 2009 - 09:12 PM

View Postchowdher, on 18 December 2009 - 06:43 PM, said:

Kruppe is in my opinion the most intelligent person in the entire MBOTF series. The way he keeps his intelligence to himself but still acts as if he is all knowing just creates an air of obnoxiousness but power that makes him so enjoyable. Kruppe does appear in many other books especially in MOI. If you appreciated Kruppe's intelligence then you are in luck because their are other characters in following books that are very similar.



That is precisely the impression I got as well although I haven't read more than to the end of DG so far. Kruppe is a sneaky guy, nobody has figured him out, and when someone does, he has this memory-erase thing (very much Men-In-Black like or mindtricks of a Jedi). I enjoyed his character very much. His long lost twin (not literally of course) is Iskaral Pust from DG. I'm glad to learn that Kruppe returns in the third novel. Now, what I really would like to see is a meeting between Kruppe and Pust (please don't answer this if it's a spoiler in any way).
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Posted 22 December 2009 - 11:52 PM

View PostBauchelain the Evil, on 06 October 2009 - 03:52 PM, said:

View PostD, on 06 October 2009 - 04:28 AM, said:

As for the 2nd book, no Kruppe does not feature in that book, but the equally awesome Iskaral Pust does. And Kruppe does indeed return in a later book(s) beyond the 2nd one.


Ah, Pust is ten times ore awesome than Kruppe! But sseing how this is the GotM forum let's not get into this.
As for the OP I agree that Kruppe was one of the reasons of why I enjoyed GotM, although in my opinion he gives his best in MoI


I prefer Kruppe to Pust, both great characters, but I suppose I like Kruppe more for his seeming levity to a cruel world. Pust is twisted in quite a different way...

Back on topic, it almost seems that, at least for high fantasy, a character like Kruppe is essential. Whether or not they can be written effectively is often the big question going into any story. In this series, the author(s) pulled it off to great effect!
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Posted 15 January 2010 - 12:27 AM

[quote name='Cobbles' date='18 December 2009 - 01:12 PM' timestamp='1261170739' post='712449']
Now, what I really would like to see is a meeting between Kruppe and Pust (please don't answer this if it's a spoiler in any way).
[quote name='chowdher' date='18 December 2009 - 01:43 PM' timestamp='1261161834' post='712417']

now that my friends could cause fits! lol, oh damn.
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Posted 15 January 2010 - 03:26 AM

I didn't really care for Pust, but he's starting to grow on me...which is a similar thing that happened with Kruppe for me. Early on in Gardens of the Moon I didn't really grasp the character...but now I think he's awesome.
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Posted 17 January 2010 - 08:36 AM

Kruppe is a glorious fool. Pust is a glorious idiot.

However- don't push the Kruppe-Pust conflict any farther.
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 05:15 AM

View PostSteamer, on 06 October 2009 - 01:29 AM, said:

[...] but the equally awesome Iskaral Pust does.


I don't know if I'd call Iskaral Pust equally awesome. The majority of the humour with that character came from
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Iskaral Pust would have been awesome if
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Kruppe, on the other hand, was not only a capable mage, but he was also the man behind the curtain for most of the minor points in the book. He also had the temerity to banter with an elder god, the appetite of an elephant, and a food-specific case of kleptomania. He was awesome.
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 04:50 PM

At the beginning of the book I was of the opinion that Kruppe was quite possibly the most annoying character ever written. By the end of Gardens of the Moon, I had ceased that line of thought. Still think I like Pust more then Kruppe though.
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Posted 10 February 2010 - 01:17 PM

Kruppe is indeed awesome. Not much more to say than that really.

I laughed a lot at the disguise part where he is surprised that he can be recognized lol.
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