Left leaning news vs. Right leaning news what do you think?
#81
Posted 10 January 2010 - 12:42 PM
So what you're saying is you've made a judgement on him based on a drunken haze from which you can remember nothing. Good job.
I'd guess the reason Fox doesn't get rid of him would be his ratings. He's got a pretty high viewership. IDK, he asks a lot of poignant interesting questions & makes some good points, to me at least. Unlike the commentators you mentioned from the left, he doesn't just sit and attack other people's point of view, especially other commentators. Instead, he states the reasons why he disagrees with policies, asks what different policies mean and tries to understand where those in power want to take us based on their past actions, writings, speeches and their current actions, writings and speeches. I guess being drunk would be requisite to hearing anything you don't want to hear, though...
I'd guess the reason Fox doesn't get rid of him would be his ratings. He's got a pretty high viewership. IDK, he asks a lot of poignant interesting questions & makes some good points, to me at least. Unlike the commentators you mentioned from the left, he doesn't just sit and attack other people's point of view, especially other commentators. Instead, he states the reasons why he disagrees with policies, asks what different policies mean and tries to understand where those in power want to take us based on their past actions, writings, speeches and their current actions, writings and speeches. I guess being drunk would be requisite to hearing anything you don't want to hear, though...
Pain is just weakness leaving the body.
#82
Posted 10 January 2010 - 02:08 PM
man, I am having such a hard time not just filling this post with AHAHAHAHA.
Seriously, GGG, have we watched the same Glenn Beck? He hardly does anything but attack other points of view. He wallows in his own righteousness and proclaims anyone to disagree with him to be stupid, anti american and so on. I flicked through his newest book too, which was more of the same, just even more outrageous as its harder to quote in on tv.
Glenn Beck I believe was also the man who claimed that Obama wanted to become president to acquire reparations and to settle old racial scores to mention some.
Seriously, GGG, have we watched the same Glenn Beck? He hardly does anything but attack other points of view. He wallows in his own righteousness and proclaims anyone to disagree with him to be stupid, anti american and so on. I flicked through his newest book too, which was more of the same, just even more outrageous as its harder to quote in on tv.
Glenn Beck I believe was also the man who claimed that Obama wanted to become president to acquire reparations and to settle old racial scores to mention some.
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To speak friendly, Even to the devil
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To speak friendly, Even to the devil
#83
Posted 10 January 2010 - 02:25 PM
Grand Goombah Graeld, on 10 January 2010 - 12:42 PM, said:
So what you're saying is you've made a judgement on him based on a drunken haze from which you can remember nothing. Good job.
I'd guess the reason Fox doesn't get rid of him would be his ratings. He's got a pretty high viewership. IDK, he asks a lot of poignant interesting questions & makes some good points, to me at least. Unlike the commentators you mentioned from the left, he doesn't just sit and attack other people's point of view, especially other commentators. Instead, he states the reasons why he disagrees with policies, asks what different policies mean and tries to understand where those in power want to take us based on their past actions, writings, speeches and their current actions, writings and speeches. I guess being drunk would be requisite to hearing anything you don't want to hear, though...
I'd guess the reason Fox doesn't get rid of him would be his ratings. He's got a pretty high viewership. IDK, he asks a lot of poignant interesting questions & makes some good points, to me at least. Unlike the commentators you mentioned from the left, he doesn't just sit and attack other people's point of view, especially other commentators. Instead, he states the reasons why he disagrees with policies, asks what different policies mean and tries to understand where those in power want to take us based on their past actions, writings, speeches and their current actions, writings and speeches. I guess being drunk would be requisite to hearing anything you don't want to hear, though...
I'm not an American and I haven't watched his show all the way through, but what I've seen of Glenn Beck leads me to seriously question his mental stability. If I saw a man behaving like that in the street I would be concerned for his safety (and mine).
#84
Posted 10 January 2010 - 07:01 PM
I'm not reporting. I'm just commentating. Can't hold me responsible.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#85
#86
Posted 16 April 2010 - 07:24 AM
Poll finds that conservatives/tea partiers view Fox News as a source of News, and consider Hannity and Beck to be NEWS SHOWS, and not commentary.
Is there any reason to be surprised by this? No.
Of course, they are simply commentary and couldn't possibly be doing the country a disservice. I mean, it's not like people actually BELIEVE Beck's insanity.
Is there any reason to be surprised by this? No.
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The New York Times poll asked respondents who they "think is mostly to blame for most of the current federal budget deficit -- 1. the Bush administration, 2. the Obama administration, 3. Congress, or 4. someone else." Twenty-four percent of tea party respondents said the Obama administration was mostly to blame, compared to only 8 percent of respondents overall. By contrast, only 6 percent of tea party respondents said the Bush administration was to blame for the deficit, compared to 39 percent of respondents overall. Fox News has repeatedly pushed misinformation about the federal deficit, including attributing the entire $1.4 trillion deficit for 2009 to President Obama, even though the Congressional Budget Office projected that based on policies set under President Bush and economic conditions at the time, the deficit for fiscal year 2009 would reach $1.2 trillion:
Of course, they are simply commentary and couldn't possibly be doing the country a disservice. I mean, it's not like people actually BELIEVE Beck's insanity.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#87
Posted 16 April 2010 - 07:31 AM
Oh my.
There I thought the tea party peeps were just a bunch of people that think government bailouts are a retarded idea.
Now, with this... oh my.
There I thought the tea party peeps were just a bunch of people that think government bailouts are a retarded idea.
Now, with this... oh my.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
#88
Posted 16 April 2010 - 07:33 AM
H.D., on 16 April 2010 - 07:24 AM, said:
Of course, they are simply commentary and couldn't possibly be doing the country a disservice. I mean, it's not like people actually BELIEVE Beck's insanity.
Hyuk, hyuk, hyuk, but of course not, hyuk, hyuk. its all just a gas old boy! i mean we're all rational, introspective... critical... uh... thinkers... right? right?
There's a fine line between genius and insanity. I have erased this line.
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#89
Posted 16 April 2010 - 09:31 PM
Oh god, it just gets worse and worse:
http://www.foxnews.c...b-site-blocked/
The Fox website was temporarily blocked for Navy folks stationed in Europe. Of course, the problem was rectified almost immediately. And of course, the fact that the NYT was also blocked was glossed over. But read the comments on the article, and tell me these people are not just plain fucking scary.
http://www.foxnews.c...b-site-blocked/
The Fox website was temporarily blocked for Navy folks stationed in Europe. Of course, the problem was rectified almost immediately. And of course, the fact that the NYT was also blocked was glossed over. But read the comments on the article, and tell me these people are not just plain fucking scary.
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#90
Posted 16 April 2010 - 09:47 PM
I'd just like to point out that there are loonies on both sides.
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#91
Posted 16 April 2010 - 10:09 PM
Find me something even remotely comparable from the left.
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#92
Posted 16 April 2010 - 10:48 PM
I really don't have time to read through the ~450 comments to find the 'horrible' ones you're referring to. Copy/paste a couple in here & I'm SURE I'll have no trouble finding comparable from HuffPo or MediaMat relatively quick. Without knowing exactly what you're referring to, I really can't post anything comparable though.
Pain is just weakness leaving the body.
#93
Posted 16 April 2010 - 11:51 PM
Man you don't need to read all 450 pages. The first alone gives you a good idea of just how much crazy there's to find there. Jeez, it's worse than youtube.
Take good care to keep relations civil
It's decent in the first of gentlemen
To speak friendly, Even to the devil
It's decent in the first of gentlemen
To speak friendly, Even to the devil
#94
Posted 17 April 2010 - 02:17 AM
Some people have their location listed.
Just now?
Fear, fear, fear.
The answer to every ill.
Is he talking about this? Or this? Who knows.
Is that a question? Not that this person didn't notice the New York Times was also blocked. Guilty until proven innocent? Yeah.
Wow.
Fearmongering works best with anecdotal evidence. Proven fact.
I smell an elitist.
Another question-that-is-not-a-question. And way to be obvious about drinking the Fox Koolaid.
I think this person's sarcasm meter was broken.
Grammar fail. Also lost points for focusing on the indoctrination of children. But at least they blamed the Navy rather than Obama.
Yeah. Because the GOP owns the military.
I want to know if this person is an illegal alien. We ain't got no truck with that sort in the GOP.
Who said anything about lawyers??????
Why is this not headline news???
Fair and balanced.
What's scary is these people not understanding how IT filtering works.
Obama, duh.
Our health care plan isn't as good as theirs.
Moar to come...
citizen5, NC said:
The Obama censorship begins...
Just now?
pammie1, OH said:
This is getting scarier and scarier.
Fear, fear, fear.
gene38 said:
One answer. obama
The answer to every ill.
haddanuff, PA said:
Sounds like te Navy has been taking a lesson from LA Fitness. What's next & why isn't this a major headline in evrey news outlet in the US? Scary.
Is he talking about this? Or this? Who knows.
gypsumking, NV said:
Until proven otherwise, seems like censorship to me. Funny MSNBC and other sources were not blocked. Can you say Censored.
Is that a question? Not that this person didn't notice the New York Times was also blocked. Guilty until proven innocent? Yeah.
agdaddy, TX said:
This is the most unconstitutional action our government has ever instituted. This is the reason our forefathers went to war with the king of England. Freedom of the Press!!!!!
Wow.
pbm99, CO said:
I fear this illegal sensorship may extend even farther into our world. We've had several unusual outages of FoxNews over our cable TV in recent months. Strange in that they occurred when a particulary sensitive guest or story was scheduled and only the Fox channel had the outage. All others were working fine.
Fearmongering works best with anecdotal evidence. Proven fact.
fishermanpat said:
It begins! Now we see where we are headed. I can only hope that more intelligent individuals that can deal with this breach of freedom step up to the plate and bring charges against the ignorant individuals that are responsible for this intrusion into our freedoms. God bless America.
I smell an elitist.
caweathersp, CA said:
Yeah that makes a lot of sense. Lets only allow the liberal media to our troops. Furthermore,that kind of censorship is unconstitutional. So when does one media source have more say so in this country. It sounds to me that progressives are getting really scared of anybody who is fair and balanced. Im sick of this kind of politics.
Another question-that-is-not-a-question. And way to be obvious about drinking the Fox Koolaid.
pbm99, CO said:
dvon8 said, "Good Job Navy!" I presume the 8 in your screen name is your age. When you grow up, you'll understand how important our freedom is, if we still have it, and you'll appreciate that our service men and women have the job of protecting that freedom. To deny them what they are fighting to keep for us is absurd.
I think this person's sarcasm meter was broken.
scrupulous, LA said:
HOW DARE THEM!!!!!!!!!! Our military children have every right to read, hear and see all angles of news from all agencies!! I support the military in all and everything they do, but this is outrageous. Shame on them !!!!
Grammar fail. Also lost points for focusing on the indoctrination of children. But at least they blamed the Navy rather than Obama.
driftwood, CT said:
This needs to be investigated thoroughly. The person who deliberately blocked FOX and any others involved need to be exposed. It's one thing when hotels and other private sector organizations block FOX news, but when slimy liberals bust into the military, we've got a serious problem.
Yeah. Because the GOP owns the military.
donzerangue said:
Do we wnt to control the press? Those of you that say yes, have you thought of the ramifictions, which are: your voice can be heard as long as you agree with the ruling party. Is this that you seek?
I want to know if this person is an illegal alien. We ain't got no truck with that sort in the GOP.
facethemusic, CA said:
Land of the CENSORED, Home of the CENSORED.... Limited info for the troops and lawyers for the enemy????? Nice work! Vote them all out on their CENSORED....
Who said anything about lawyers??????
micspa said:
Better check all the Obama lovers working in the IT department...this doesn't "just happen"!
drno44m said:
The department of Energy has also blocked this website as of april 15 2010
Why is this not headline news???
blackdogotto, FL said:
Good going there. Let's leave our Armed Forces in the dark about what's really going on in this country!
Fair and balanced.
paulasjordan said:
how can they do that? i could understand all news related web sites being blocked, but just a select few? scarey.
What's scary is these people not understanding how IT filtering works.
dougly, OH said:
who do you think is behind that?
Obama, duh.
mornab said:
I would certainly hope that it is an error like we all encounter from time to time because if it is on purpose, what have we come to, Venezuela?
Our health care plan isn't as good as theirs.
Moar to come...
The President (2012) said:
Please proceed, Governor.
Chris Christie (2016) said:
There it is.
Elizabeth Warren (2020) said:
And no, I’m not talking about Donald Trump. I’m talking about Mayor Bloomberg.
#95
Posted 17 April 2010 - 02:24 AM
geanmc said:
I didn't realize the U.S. is taking on policies of Communist china. This is an outrage!
Some people apparently just can't comprehend real censorship.
businessteacher, OH said:
THIS is truly disgusting! Who made this decision?? What happened to Freedom of Speech and peoples' rights? As a FOX news listener, they have the most accurate information around. This must be the leftists and their "crew" muddying up the waters again.
Of course.
elaines814 said:
This is a violation of our men and women's rights. I am outraged!! They can get CNN and MSNBC, but not the REAL news? How convenient. How WRONG!!
ovrkillswife said:
My husband works at Air Force facility and they don't allow Fox News either...only CNN!!
I think these people don't realize that CNN is very right-leaning. That's sad. Also, yay for moar anecdotal evidence.
snoopgrandpa said:
Well of course not the Navy brass is afraid of the people in the Navy, will grow a brain, and decide for them self.
Sentence fail.
reason2vote said:
A lot of that content blocking software picks up on things that may not be primary content, so I can see something like this happening unnecessarily. I'll bet it's back on before day's end.
First. Sane. Comment.
what_who_why said:
Government controlled propeganda doesnt work well unless it is all you are allowed to read. I hope our troops are smart and strong enough to resist the political takeover of America and uphold the constitution when the illegal orders are passed down. And if they miss the fight because they have been stranded in the desert that they will support their families and friends back home fighting against the kind of tyranny that they and those before them have served and died protecting.
Continuing on the W theme.....wow. Just wow.
mexlet said:
FOX, please find out who issued this order. Lets put names to actions. This is stupid and amounts to censorship. Put the names out there if possible.
So that we can BURN THEM.
pappyski said:
Access has been restored. No comment yet as to what happened, but someone most likely got dyslexic when they were entering IP addresses to dangerous sites (i.e. sites where computers can be infected).
Second sane comment.
walfano13, CA said:
Its starting Obama is trying to stop the military from voting him out in 2012!!!!!!
Because we need FOX to tell us that Obama is a commufascist.
niko191, WV said:
Thank God my husband retired two years ago from the Navy! This is horrible!! What about MSNBC., CNN.,NBC., ABC.,and CBS.? Totally wrong! Thanks OBAMA!!!
I'm really wondering about this whole ., thing.
sandigirl, MS said:
I wonder what security measure they're talking about? Probably learning the truth about something the gvt wants them to believe otherwise. Maybe it's the story that FOX ran about the marine who is in trouble for questioning wheter BO is a US citizen.
I love my state.
dartanian said:
This is disturbing. would like to know who issued that order.
Your mother.
burningmad2, VA said:
I checked a bunch of other news outlets including ABC News, CBS News, NBC News, C-SPAN, CNN, MSNBC etc and none other than FOXNEWS was denied access. Must have been some bomb drop on NMCI because the FOXNEWS blackout didn't last thanks to all those that reacted so swiftly.
I guess the NYT isn't a real news outlet.
jaws6 said:
The sites were blocked temporarily due to an exploit in JAVA that the sites have installed. The exploit could allow unauthorized access to computers which view the banned sites. The exploit should be fixed in the next few days and access will be restored.
Third sane comment. (Okay, I skipped a couple of sane comments that were obviously from liberals, saying things like 'not everything is a conspiracy. Jeez!')
mariemack said:
This is just the beginning. Soon, we will all be denied access to the only network news that tells the truth. This is really scary!
Just the beginning! The right loves the slippery slope.
calidem, CA said:
This is a total non-issue. I'm in the Air Force and sites get blocked and unblocked from time to time for no apparant reason. For the most part, most forum type websites are always blocked. I'm the purchaser in my shop and I have to use outside websites all the time. Many times, even the trusted vendor sites I use come up as blocked. The DoD has to take every step to defend against cyber-terrorism and they play the "better safe than sorry" role and sometimes sites get blocked. This is no way considered "breaking news."
Another sane comment...but the user name is short for California Democrat, obviously.
gungirl, TN said:
I want to see an update to this story when Fox gets it. I know plenty of servicemembers who regularly visit FoxNews.com. (p.s. It's my homepage!)
Love the user name.
chapulin said:
WHY THIS DOES NOT SURPRISE ME?
Because you watch FOX?
commonsensedude said:
Gee whiz, we must protect the poorly educated and not so smart members of the armed forces that operate the most complex weapon systems in the world. Wow how stupid is that? When will the idiocy of this government stop? As a veteran I am shocked to hear of such a thing.
wat
And one moar...
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Please proceed, Governor.
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There it is.
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#96
Posted 17 April 2010 - 02:25 AM
Sorry for the spamming, but this forum has Nazi quoting limits and after I'd typed up all this I felt the need to, you know, post it.
E-MAIL GLENN BECK 4 FREEDOM
Not if they drink the FOX Koolaid, apparently.
Censure?
But where will you go? America is the only free country!
MSM.
Yeah.
OMG COME LIBERATE US PLZ.
I bet this person reads Tairy.
That's enough eh? I stopped on p. 8 of 48, and I started skipping redundant OMG THIS IS SCAREY comments after a while..
bryantiki, NC said:
I was blocked earlier and emailed Glenn Beck via my cell. I printed off the access denied screen that clearly shows the url for foxnews. We just got access back.
E-MAIL GLENN BECK 4 FREEDOM
sctebo said:
And so the censorship begins, does this really surprise anyone?
Not if they drink the FOX Koolaid, apparently.
zikalasa said:
When is it okay to censure the news? Without America, there is no free world. Watch out folks, when freedom and liberty is lost, all is lost.
Censure?
dontwanttobehere said:
This story, among so so many, is an absolute outrage to Americans. We must save our rights from the hands of those taking control and leading us to an unrecognizable nation.
But where will you go? America is the only free country!
benvictor, VA said:
Investigations must be conducted by the DOD Inspector General, the Navy Inspector General, the GAO and others to determine criminality. Of course, this action simply enhances FOX and conservative talk radio, for who wants to view/listen to MSM.
MSM.
wayntollefson said:
Now is the time to come to the aid of our country. now is the time to come to the aid of our country. Now is the time to come to the aid of our country. And we said it couldn't happen to OUR COUNTRY. Write.....
Yeah.
waltersbill569 said:
When are the officers of our military going to stand up to their responsibilities of office and stop this coup? We help all other countries around the world yet they have turned their backs to the American citizens. Help us please
OMG COME LIBERATE US PLZ.
jamesintexas, TX said:
We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force. - Ayn Rand
I bet this person reads Tairy.
That's enough eh? I stopped on p. 8 of 48, and I started skipping redundant OMG THIS IS SCAREY comments after a while..
The President (2012) said:
Please proceed, Governor.
Chris Christie (2016) said:
There it is.
Elizabeth Warren (2020) said:
And no, I’m not talking about Donald Trump. I’m talking about Mayor Bloomberg.
#97
Posted 17 April 2010 - 02:38 AM
Seems almost like a group psychosis. They're reading other people's comments, that's freaking them out OMGmustbetrue and then adding their own comment. It is just a big snowball of hysteria. Ridiculous.
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#98
Posted 17 April 2010 - 02:42 AM
Shinrei, on 17 April 2010 - 02:38 AM, said:
Seems almost like a group psychosis. They're reading other people's comments, that's freaking them out OMGmustbetrue and then adding their own comment. It is just a big snowball of hysteria. Ridiculous.
I call that: "human nature", from my cave of cynicism and misanthropy.
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#99
Posted 17 April 2010 - 02:55 AM
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HOW DARE THEM!!!!!!!!!! Our military children have every right to read, hear and see all angles of news from all agencies!! I support the military in all and everything they do, but this is outrageous. Shame on them !!!!
Definitely my favorite so far. Apparently there's a couple really good ones in the 'teens, but I got to the comment-party late so I'm only on page 10.
#100
Posted 17 April 2010 - 02:59 AM
Darkwatch, on 17 April 2010 - 02:42 AM, said:
Shinrei, on 17 April 2010 - 02:38 AM, said:
Seems almost like a group psychosis. They're reading other people's comments, that's freaking them out OMGmustbetrue and then adding their own comment. It is just a big snowball of hysteria. Ridiculous.
I call that: "human nature", from my cave of cynicism and misanthropy.
Which raises an important question: are FOXheads more human than the rest of us?
The President (2012) said:
Please proceed, Governor.
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There it is.
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