[Mirthmonkey]

I remember a few books back the characters were having major problems using the warrens because the Crippled God had somehow corrupted them. I don't recall that being resolved. Am I forgetting something (very possible)? That hasn't seemed to be a problem for a long time now. Lots of characters have drawn on the warrens without issue.

edit: While I don't think it will be relevant to this topic, watch the spoilers for Bonehunters. I'm only about halfway through the book.

This post has been edited by Mirthmonkey: 31 August 2009 - 05:11 PM

[Vengeance]

Mirthmonkey, on Aug 31 2009, 12:10 PM, said:

I remember a few books back the characters were having major problems using the warrens because the Crippled God had somehow corrupted them. I don't recall that being resolved. Am I forgetting something (very possible)? That hasn't seemed to be a problem for a long time now. Lots of characters have drawn on the warrens without issue.

edit: While I don't think it will be relevant to this topic, watch the spoilers for Bonehunters. I'm only about halfway through the book.

The Warrens were poisoned in MOI and for the most part fixed in MOI to. Paran legitimized the House of Chains and brought them into the frame work of the Warren system. I believe (apt or someone will correct me if I am wrong) that along with the defeat of the Pannion Seer allowed the Warrens to be functional again.

[Aptorian]

Maybe there's some passge I don't remember, but as I recall it's not really explained why the poisoning stopped. It just does. The logical assumption is then that the CG stopped the poisoning because it would hurt the House of Chains. But it seems like a rather strange swap. On one hand he's destroying everything and everyone, generally making the world a miserable place and on the other he gains a flawed, weak, so far completely useless, House of Cards that he then releases to survive on its own.

[Mirthmonkey]

Vengeance, on Aug 31 2009, 04:06 PM, said:

The Warrens were poisoned in MOI and for the most part fixed in MOI to. Paran legitimized the House of Chains and brought them into the frame work of the Warren system. I believe (apt or someone will correct me if I am wrong) that along with the defeat of the Pannion Seer allowed the Warrens to be functional again.

I don't recall the Seer having anything to do with the poisoned Warrens. Did he?

One drawback to really long series with tons of characters is trying to remember all the plot threads.

[Crimsonblade]

Didn't Quick Ben and that one T'lan Imass use the Seer to effectively freeze the CG's poisoning of the warrens? Or was that only his destruction of Burn?

[Aptorian]

Omotose Phellack was placed inside the heart of Burn both to save the warren from the destruction the T'lan had waged upon it and to reduce the fever of the corruption affecting burn.

But that wouldn't stop the corruption completely, I can't believe that.

[Skywalker]

Yeah... the children of Burn did tell QB that they'd hold as long as they could (with Pannion's help) but that it wasn't a permanent solution

[MTS]

I was under the impression the CG was poisoning the warrens through both the Matron's influence on the Rent and his connection to Burn. That is, by harnessing her chaotic power (she tried to control Chaos, so by controlling her, he in essence has a link to Chaos) he was able to spread that infection to the warrens through his connection to Burn and, presumably, Tennes. All warrens are bordered by Chaos as well, so there's that element (if you'll excuse the pun).

Helping Burn and sending the Matron into the Rent removes both of his connections, and thus ability to poison the warrens - the Matron is, in effect, gone, and he is blocked from infecting Burn by OP.

Plausible?

[Aptorian]

The CG has shown plenty of ability to access chaos himself. And the reason to why the poison was spread so effectively through all the warrens, is the fact that the CG is chained directly to burn, pumping his poison into her.

[MTS]

The warren's aren't of Burn though Apt - they're of K'rul and the dragons. Being chained to her flesh cannot be the only reason he was able to infect the warrens.

Could it be that he controls a pocket of Kurald Emurlahn, and, as we know, Shadow has reflections everywhere?

[Aptorian]

The discussion is getting into the details of further books now, but the warrens are of Burn in as much as the house system is rooted in earth and every warren runs through Burn. That's the whole point of the CG system, if he kills Burn, he kills everything, or at least he shapes everything in a mirror of his misery.

[D'rek]

Regardless of how he was poisoning the warrens, it is shown and said in MoI that the poison is spreading with the growth of the Pannion Domin. The poisoning wasn't in effect beyond the Domin in Pale or Darujhistan (early parts of the book) or in 7C (DG being concurrent and all). With the defeat of the Pannion Domin, one would presume whatever mechanism was spreading the poison would contract with the Domin's borders.