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Mafia 51.5 the long road

#381 User is offline   Kessobahn 

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 01:24 AM

This is true, but now that it is over and Korv has gone back into his cave it would be nice if some more people came forward with thoughts.

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 01:30 AM

I'd like to add that D'riss mentioned he'd play after he got home from work. That was 14 hours ago, so unless he's working 14 hour days, he hasn't bothered to come back. His most content-full post was when he said he wasn't sure why I was all riled up about Eloth back on day 1.

I'm tempted to change my vote to D'riss, although my dislike for him amounts to the same thing as what I've already posted about Galain. Cruising with nothing to say. D'riss isn't as polite, is the only difference.

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 02:06 AM

?
as am tter if fact, I work 9-hour days, and then commute home for 2 hours.

once i get home, I need to shower and eat, because I haven't been home in about 36 hours

now I am home, and what's more, I've read up on the thread--something I did not do when i posted earlier today to avoid a modkill.

from reading the thread (skimming the pissing contest and the badkind quotes), Korv has SYMP tatooed on his face in foot-long letters. if nothing betters comes up, i'd be happy to vote him off.

aside from that, need to go take a quick look at the Bargy train--something no one here seems to have done yet.

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 02:33 AM

View PostKorvalain, on Aug 25 2009, 05:46 PM, said:

remove vote
vote Barghast

For running away.


after a lot of back and forth, this is the first vote on the final train.

View PostEloth, on Aug 26 2009, 07:23 AM, said:

A little look at Bargy

He starts off very badly with his first post:

View PostBarghast, on Aug 25 2009, 11:36 AM, said:

Slow thread is slow.

Who wants to vote night?


Vote Night! As D'riss replies, even suggesting it is not the done thing, and when called on it Bargy gets a bit over defensive imo:

View PostBarghast, on Aug 25 2009, 12:28 PM, said:

Relax, fool, it was just a joke to alleviate the tedium.

The "fool" seems an overreaction to me.

Then the following passage between Anno and Bargy - both talking nonsense on the surface:

View PostAnomandaris, on Aug 25 2009, 02:07 PM, said:

*ahem*

I said: Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo



View PostBarghast, on Aug 25 2009, 02:09 PM, said:

meow?



View PostAnomandaris, on Aug 25 2009, 02:16 PM, said:

Schlabang!

(It's what a unicorn says)



View PostBarghast, on Aug 25 2009, 02:18 PM, said:

Funny, that word makes me think of Slagathor.

Both posting gibberish but is this some form of (rather crap) internecine exchange?


Then the post Kesso picks him up on:

View PostBarghast, on Aug 25 2009, 02:52 PM, said:

Look, Korv's casting attention away from himself! HE must be the serial killer!

vote Korvalain


And immediate uber-defence from Bargy:

View PostBarghast, on Aug 25 2009, 03:12 PM, said:

Eh, I'm not panicking. It was a joke, not a slip. Curse my tired brain for not being ambiguous enough.


...who then removes vote and buggers off. Even though the deadline is still some 30 hours away he feels he might not be back, possibly planning to lay low until forgotten

View PostBarghast, on Aug 25 2009, 03:18 PM, said:

Lol regardless of how you twist my words, it was never serious. Anyway, I'm off. Happy hunting, people. I'll remove vote in case I'm not back before deadline.

remove vote


This is his last post for a while (still v. defensive)...

View PostBarghast, on Aug 25 2009, 03:20 PM, said:

Quit being dramatic, Korv. Stop trying to make something out of nothing.


...until Korv slaps a vote on and Bargy comes crashing back in to defend again.

View PostBarghast, on Aug 25 2009, 11:19 PM, said:

View PostKorvalain, on Aug 25 2009, 10:46 PM, said:

remove vote
vote Barghast

For running away.


I didn't run away Korv, I needed a little something called sleep, as it was 1:30 in the morning. Now I need to go to uni. I''ll be back in around 6 hours.


He goes into hiding for almost 12 hours and returns again in defensive mode, even though my post was a joke:

View PostBarghast, on Aug 26 2009, 10:18 AM, said:

View PostEloth, on Aug 26 2009, 08:53 AM, said:

Well that didn't take long!

So far:

Bargy is a big girl for needing sleep, Korv has an innapropriate avatar and Anno is just plain weird. Hey ho.

I'll be around for most of the day.


Note to self: Don't Mafia past midnight, or people will call you a girl when you leave.

I'm gonna do a re-read. I'll be around for a little while if anyone wants to chat.



A pop at GL, but then a few would like an explanation from GL, and a pop at Korv for being over defensive (hmmm, where have be seen that before Bargy?):

View PostBarghast, on Aug 26 2009, 11:35 AM, said:

Yeah, I have no idea what all that stuff with GL was about. Could be a clue, if a ridiculously obvious one. Im gonna hold off on voting him though, and see if something better comes up. Korv is catching my eye - he was very antagonistic and defensive when called out on that serial killer quip. Could be worth a vote.


Then two posts about Anno's strangeness:

View PostBarghast, on Aug 26 2009, 11:37 AM, said:

View PostGalain, on Aug 26 2009, 11:34 AM, said:

Also possibly of Ano's mooo thing. It could just be him screwing around but something about it doesnt feel right.

Ah yes, I forgot about that. It seems fairly innocuous on the surface. He did repeat it a couple of times though, which does make it seem a little suspect...


and:

View PostBarghast, on Aug 26 2009, 11:49 AM, said:

Well, what else could it be? A code to another player? Seems kinda odd then that he would repeat it, thus possibly drawing undue attention to it. Other than that, Anno's just shaken his head like an old geezer and laugh at all the spam. I agree, it was a bit weird, but I don't think there's anything in it. IMO GL's post is far weirder, and more likely to be a code.

..conveniently forgetting that he himself was posting gibberish with Anno, so he has tried to distance himself, tells us there is nothing to it and puts the spotlight back on GL.

Not the greatest case in the world (show me a day one case that is) but I am going to

vote Barghast



Eloth makes a big Barghaast case, and votes.

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 02:33 AM

View PostRuse, on Aug 26 2009, 08:03 AM, said:

Looking through Eloths case on bargahst, it does seem to have some merit, I dont buy the mooo and such conversation as indicating something as i reckon its just standard spam. The defensiveness is a good point though, and does suggest that he's trying a bit hard to appear innocent by backing up everything he says.
for now
Vote Barghast


ruse reads the first big Day 1 case, and he likes it.

View PostAnomandaris, on Aug 26 2009, 09:11 AM, said:

Urrg. I needs more sleep, can't use the thinkymeatz. Bad morning to everyone!

Bargy may be being over-defensive but to me it's not to the degree to necessitate a vote. However, the whole removing vote in case he wouldn't be back for deadline after only a handful of hours of day 1 does seem to me like he was possibly setting himself up to lurk day 1 and miss the lynch if he had reason - something that seems rather scummy to me. he can say that he didn't realize how much time is left, but this wasn't very far into day, without actually gouing and checking he shouldve known there was at least 20-some hours left and likely much more. The two of thsee things together is enough for me to see him as the best target today.

vote barghast


Anomandaris votes him for being defensive, and not knowing how to tell the time

View PostGalain, on Aug 26 2009, 03:04 PM, said:

Hmm, there's about an hour left by my watch. The board is eerily quiet tonight.

vote Barghast

since he seems bout the only option

Ruse - you're naked. Do you have any thoughts?

Edit to fix layout


Galain's hopping on to get a lynch

View PostHood's Path, on Aug 26 2009, 03:25 PM, said:

vote barghast

Thought he could be scum earlier. As well as that I think it's the best chance we've got for a lynch and that's better than a no lynch.

HP with a driveby

View PostRashan, on Aug 26 2009, 03:42 PM, said:

remove vote

vote barghast

@korv - you sound so scummy with that, but we need a lynch.


Rashan, another one "just to get a lynch"

and then, post- factum:

View PostSerc, on Aug 26 2009, 03:50 PM, said:

Ah, dear. Sword of Truth is goofy.

I don't think I'm needed to hammer, but

Vote Barghast

Just in case.


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Posted 28 August 2009 - 02:42 AM

had to spit the post in two, stoopid IPB.....


to be honest, the only votes in this train that follow any reasoning, no matter how faulty, appear to be Korvalain, Eloth and Anomandaris.

Ruse and HP provide drivebys (" the case sounds good" and "I thought he might be scum", whilst Galain, Rashan and, I suppose, Serc, all use the "we need to get a lynch"--which, whilst true, is the most convenient scum excuse ever.

of the bunch, I'm honestly feeling most suspicious about Rashan, due simply to the fact that at one pint during the re-read I caught myself thinking "wait, wasn't Rashan also playing?"

he's the one low-poster who hasn't been dragged to light yet. his posts are all carefully non-committal, and he appears to be flying below everyone's radar, whilst the other low-posting players (Ruse, Serc, myself, and, untill recently, HP) get constantly reamed at for nopt participating.

I've had about 3 hours of drunken stupor that barely passes for sleep in the last almost 40 hours, i've consumed excessime amount of booze last night, and i've worked 9-hour shifts on both those days in the sun that singed the skin but was nowhere near warm enough.

I'm exhausted and i'm going to bed. i'll be back in about 8 hours for an hour before work, and I will cast my vote then.

good night.

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 02:44 AM

So, do any of those strike you as suspicious then, D'riss?

Anomandaris' vote would appear to be the tipping point, except that Galain doesn't add the next vote until quite a few hours later.

HP's drive by is suspect in its nature (and lame explanation) but he does it near the end so the timing isn't terribly suspicious.

I'm not getting any major scumdar pings from that train to be honest.

edit: cross post, making my post look dumb

This post has been edited by Kessobahn: 28 August 2009 - 02:44 AM


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Posted 28 August 2009 - 02:47 AM

I'm not sure that being the one low poster who hasn't received pressure is much of a reason to suspect scum IMO, but I'll take a look at Rashan's posts now.

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 02:50 AM

View PostRashan, on Aug 26 2009, 10:41 AM, said:

View PostGalain, on Aug 26 2009, 07:36 AM, said:

Good morning people.

Doesnt seem like much has happened since I left, other than Driss padding his post count :)

I kind of agree with Driss that keeping the SK around is useful in that it stops the scum from winning, but you have to remember it doubles the number of kills per night and the SK will be much harder to spot. We have conversations like this every game though, and they're usually a moot issue, it's so rare to out two different types of scum on the same day.


if you read the rules the serial killer acts every other night. given feners demise before the game started i doubt they can strike tonight.

vote galayn lord

i didnt like their posts, they were too crytpic to not be some form of clue, and korvalains response was equally strange. some thing about a mushroom print on their face?



I looked at Rashan earlier, back when I was building my quote post on Galain, and this is why he didn't strike me initially as looking suspicious. He actually bothered to point a finger early on. The rest of his posts are pretty non-committal though.

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 02:51 AM

It is Day 2. 5 hours and 21 minutes remaining

12 Players still alive: Anomandaris, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galain, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Rashan, Ruse, Serc

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night

2 votes for Korvalain: ( Emurlahn, Hood's Path )
2 votes for Galain: ( Kessobahn, Eloth )
1 vote for Galayn Lord: ( Anomandaris )
1 vote for Ruse: ( Korvalain )

Players not voted: D'riss, Galain, Galayn Lord, Rashan, Ruse, Serc
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Posted 28 August 2009 - 02:56 AM

View PostD'riss, on Aug 27 2009, 10:42 PM, said:

of the bunch, I'm honestly feeling most suspicious about Rashan, due simply to the fact that at one pint during the re-read I caught myself thinking "wait, wasn't Rashan also playing?"


^^this. Massively. However, that's not entirely Rashan's fault, there's no real reason why'd he'd want to stand out if he's inno except to not appear like he's hiding.

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 02:56 AM

oh, shit

good thing i dropped by for one last look after checking out Diplomacy.

hmm, we need a lynch, no matter how unlikely.

I still think Korvalain might be a symp, but Kesso's posts are making a lot of sense to my sleep-deprived brain, so i'll

vote Galain

and take my leave, befoee I faceplant into my lappy's keyboard.

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 03:04 AM

View PostAnomandaris, on Aug 28 2009, 03:56 AM, said:

View PostD'riss, on Aug 27 2009, 10:42 PM, said:

of the bunch, I'm honestly feeling most suspicious about Rashan, due simply to the fact that at one pint during the re-read I caught myself thinking "wait, wasn't Rashan also playing?"


^^this. Massively. However, that's not entirely Rashan's fault, there's no real reason why'd he'd want to stand out if he's inno except to not appear like he's hiding.



Can you do me a favor and reword the part I underlined? I've read it several times now, and I'm feeling dumb for not figuring out what you mean exactly. How is what not his fault exactly?

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 03:07 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on Aug 28 2009, 03:51 AM, said:

It is Day 2. 5 hours and 21 minutes remaining

12 Players still alive: Anomandaris, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galain, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Rashan, Ruse, Serc

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night

2 votes for Korvalain: ( Emurlahn, Hood's Path )
2 votes for Galain: ( Kessobahn, Eloth )
1 vote for Galayn Lord: ( Anomandaris )
1 vote for Ruse: ( Korvalain )

Players not voted: D'riss, Galain, Galayn Lord, Rashan, Ruse, Serc


This is kind of a dead time of day, I wonder if we can get a lynch in 5 hours.

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 03:07 AM

View PostKessobahn, on Aug 27 2009, 11:04 PM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on Aug 28 2009, 03:56 AM, said:

View PostD'riss, on Aug 27 2009, 10:42 PM, said:

of the bunch, I'm honestly feeling most suspicious about Rashan, due simply to the fact that at one pint during the re-read I caught myself thinking "wait, wasn't Rashan also playing?"


^^this. Massively. However, that's not entirely Rashan's fault, there's no real reason why'd he'd want to stand out if he's inno except to not appear like he's hiding.



Can you do me a favor and reword the part I underlined? I've read it several times now, and I'm feeling dumb for not figuring out what you mean exactly. How is what not his fault exactly?


K. Rash seems suspicious because he has remained very hidden and out of my (and D'riss's) conscious. If he's scum, then that's what he wants. If he's inno, the only thing bad about that for him is that it makes him seem a bit scummy (because hiding is good for scum). However, other then that there's no reason why he wouldn't want to be hidden as scum. Additionally, I don't think he's really doing it on purpose, it's just the way the game's going.

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 03:08 AM

It is Day 2. 5 hours and 5 minutes remaining

12 Players still alive: Anomandaris, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galain, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Rashan, Ruse, Serc

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night

2 votes for Korvalain: ( Emurlahn, Hood's Path )
3 votes for Galain: ( Kessobahn, Eloth, D'riss )
1 vote for Galayn Lord: ( Anomandaris )
1 vote for Ruse: ( Korvalain )

Players not voted: Galain, Galayn Lord, Rashan, Ruse, Serc



PB here, may be intermittent tonight... doubt I'll be here through the lynch timer because that's super late for me.
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Posted 28 August 2009 - 03:09 AM

Okay I went back and re-read, and I don't want to vote Galain because sure there were hours between my Barg vote and his, he wasn't online for much of that. The only person who was online for much of that and didn't vote for either Barg or GL, the two candidates with more than a vote, was GL. He was online all that time but not only didn't vote back at anyone on his train, but didn't vote for Barg either, even when there was only a couple hours left and Barg was still at L-3.

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 03:14 AM

I'm not voting Galain because of hte vote train though. His huge quote posts for no apparent reason only makes it seem like a little bit of pressure worked, so my vote stays.

Other than what you just posted Ano, isn't your GL suspicion mostly being pissed off about him disappearing?

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 03:17 AM

View PostKessobahn, on Aug 27 2009, 11:14 PM, said:

I'm not voting Galain because of hte vote train though. His huge quote posts for no apparent reason only makes it seem like a little bit of pressure worked, so my vote stays.

Other than what you just posted Ano, isn't your GL suspicion mostly being pissed off about him disappearing?


It was mostly for what I believe to be an over-reaction on his part to my accusations about him disappearing, but this adds some tasty icing to that cake.

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 03:24 AM

Hmm, I can see what you're saying about the quote-posts-pressure, Kesso. I don't like it over my GL case, but I'm practical enough to realize that one's not going to fly today. Since I need to get to bed, I'm going to put my vote onto Korv, since I think the Galain case could benefit from some more time for analysis. Meanwhile Korv is spamming goodkind only to get his post count up so he can have a holier-than-thou tirade against low-posters on day 2. I can agree somewhat with the motive, but the manner of his accusations I do not approve of.

vote Korvalain

and this way it's 3-3 so equal candidates to be decided by the rest. Good night and have fun!

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