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Mafia 51.5 the long road

#261 User is offline   Emurlahn 

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 08:48 PM

And the US Sniper game - the American didn't get a kill until night two.

Back from my slumber.

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 08:52 PM

View PostGalain, on Aug 26 2009, 03:37 PM, said:

View PostKorvalain, on Aug 26 2009, 10:30 PM, said:

I easiest explanation is that the SK and Killers hit the same person who was guarded.
A slightly harder explanation is that the Killers hit someone who was healed and the SK was guarded.
A more complex situation involves BP's, orgies, and dragonsex.

HEALER AND GUARD DO NOT COME FORWARD.


Dont really see how the first would work.

I would think it's reasonably likely the SK couldnt strike tonight and either a single killer was guarded or Paired killers hit a heal or BP.


I meant the easiest is that the SK and killers hit the same person who was healed, not guarded.

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 08:54 PM

View PostKorvalain, on Aug 26 2009, 04:52 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on Aug 26 2009, 03:37 PM, said:

View PostKorvalain, on Aug 26 2009, 10:30 PM, said:

I easiest explanation is that the SK and Killers hit the same person who was guarded.
A slightly harder explanation is that the Killers hit someone who was healed and the SK was guarded.
A more complex situation involves BP's, orgies, and dragonsex.

HEALER AND GUARD DO NOT COME FORWARD.


Dont really see how the first would work.

I would think it's reasonably likely the SK couldnt strike tonight and either a single killer was guarded or Paired killers hit a heal or BP.


I meant the easiest is that the SK and killers hit the same person who was healed, not guarded.

Easiest? It seems like you're awful insistent/sure that the SK managed to not get a kill last night...

WCS is that the SK isn't striking until tonight. And WCS is always the most prudent to work with.

#264 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 08:56 PM

View PostKorvalain, on Aug 26 2009, 10:52 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on Aug 26 2009, 03:37 PM, said:

View PostKorvalain, on Aug 26 2009, 10:30 PM, said:

I easiest explanation is that the SK and Killers hit the same person who was guarded.
A slightly harder explanation is that the Killers hit someone who was healed and the SK was guarded.
A more complex situation involves BP's, orgies, and dragonsex.

HEALER AND GUARD DO NOT COME FORWARD.


Dont really see how the first would work.

I would think it's reasonably likely the SK couldnt strike tonight and either a single killer was guarded or Paired killers hit a heal or BP.


I meant the easiest is that the SK and killers hit the same person who was healed, not guarded.


I suppose that's more best case than easiest, since the chances of that would be pretty slim I'd wager.

Edit - sortof crosspost

This post has been edited by Galain: 26 August 2009 - 08:57 PM


#265 User is offline   Korvalain 

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 08:59 PM

View PostSerc, on Aug 26 2009, 03:54 PM, said:

View PostKorvalain, on Aug 26 2009, 04:52 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on Aug 26 2009, 03:37 PM, said:

View PostKorvalain, on Aug 26 2009, 10:30 PM, said:

I easiest explanation is that the SK and Killers hit the same person who was guarded.
A slightly harder explanation is that the Killers hit someone who was healed and the SK was guarded.
A more complex situation involves BP's, orgies, and dragonsex.

HEALER AND GUARD DO NOT COME FORWARD.


Dont really see how the first would work.

I would think it's reasonably likely the SK couldnt strike tonight and either a single killer was guarded or Paired killers hit a heal or BP.


I meant the easiest is that the SK and killers hit the same person who was healed, not guarded.

Easiest? It seems like you're awful insistent/sure that the SK managed to not get a kill last night...

WCS is that the SK isn't striking until tonight. And WCS is always the most prudent to work with.


I still want to know how/why you are so sure that the SK was unable to use a kill last night.

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 09:01 PM

View PostKorvalain, on Aug 26 2009, 04:59 PM, said:

View PostSerc, on Aug 26 2009, 03:54 PM, said:

View PostKorvalain, on Aug 26 2009, 04:52 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on Aug 26 2009, 03:37 PM, said:

View PostKorvalain, on Aug 26 2009, 10:30 PM, said:

I easiest explanation is that the SK and Killers hit the same person who was guarded.
A slightly harder explanation is that the Killers hit someone who was healed and the SK was guarded.
A more complex situation involves BP's, orgies, and dragonsex.

HEALER AND GUARD DO NOT COME FORWARD.


Dont really see how the first would work.

I would think it's reasonably likely the SK couldnt strike tonight and either a single killer was guarded or Paired killers hit a heal or BP.


I meant the easiest is that the SK and killers hit the same person who was healed, not guarded.

Easiest? It seems like you're awful insistent/sure that the SK managed to not get a kill last night...

WCS is that the SK isn't striking until tonight. And WCS is always the most prudent to work with.


I still want to know how/why you are so sure that the SK was unable to use a kill last night.

Can you read?

1.) There's precedent. Obdi's office mini, and the US Sniper mini both had every-other-night killers that did not begin killing until night 2.

2.) WCS dictates that the SK will not attack until tonight.

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 09:03 PM

Assuming that the SK attacked and failed last night is blithe optimism that, if we work around, will invariably come around to bite us all in the collective ass.

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 09:04 PM

Indeed. To assume the sk got a kill the first night is like saying we'll assume that the killer was guarded rather than the target healed, or the kill withheld. You are assuming the best possible outcome - that two separate factions targeted the same, healed, player. O.o

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 09:08 PM

Actually, In Obdi's Mini, the every-other killer was able to kill night 1. I didn't play in the Sniper mini.

Working around guessed WCS, assuming things from previous games, will get us all killed and leave the killers vs the sk.

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 09:12 PM

View PostKorvalain, on Aug 26 2009, 05:08 PM, said:

Actually, In Obdi's Mini, the every-other killer was able to kill night 1. I didn't play in the Sniper mini.

Working around guessed WCS, assuming things from previous games, will get us all killed and leave the killers vs the sk.

Nope. The desk fan, from what I've read and recall, didn't make a kill until night 2. The desk fan (GL in that game) claimed vig and became PI/CI'ed.

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 09:14 PM

And yet he COULD have killed night one if he had wanted to.

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 09:15 PM

Wait. You're saying assuming WCS will do us worse in than assuming some fantastical confluence of events?

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 09:15 PM

Just for fun, since nobody ever remembers the mechanics of other games like I do:

In the Office Supplies game, the Desk Fan could kill every other night, BUT had the option to kill on night 1. Bent just withheld the option and did it Night 2, instead.

The 'Sniper' game was actually the 'Jihad' game. The Sniper had a kill every night but it only activated starting with the second night.

So you're all wrong.

Up to you guys to determine if any of that stuff actually applies here, naturally. :p
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Posted 26 August 2009 - 09:16 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on Aug 26 2009, 04:15 PM, said:

Wait. You're saying assuming WCS will do us worse in than assuming some fantastical confluence of events?

Vote Korvalain


I am saying that assuming WCS based on assumptions based on previous games is foolish.

If you could read, you would know that.

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 09:16 PM

It is Day 2. 34 hours and 56 minutes remaining

12 Players still alive: Anomandaris, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galain, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Rashan, Ruse, Serc

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night

1 vote for Korvalain: ( Emurlahn )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, D'riss, Eloth, Galain, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Rashan, Ruse, Serc
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#276 User is offline   Emurlahn 

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 09:23 PM

View PostKorvalain, on Aug 26 2009, 11:16 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on Aug 26 2009, 04:15 PM, said:

Wait. You're saying assuming WCS will do us worse in than assuming some fantastical confluence of events?

Vote Korvalain


I am saying that assuming WCS based on assumptions based on previous games is foolish.

If you could read, you would know that.


Er, actually, assuming worst case scenario is the only thing we can do - and prior games or not, the WCS is that one of the factions did not kill last night. If you still want to go on about two separate killer factions targeting one healed player, or some other random crap like that, you will have my vote until you stop.

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 09:24 PM

Korv, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you're smoking something very strong right now...

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 09:29 PM

I do find it funny how the two of you are working together so handily after ignoring each other on day one.

And look, Emurlahn is a higher poster and Serc was the lowest poster... more and more interesting.

Emurlahn - the best part is that you will always find some reason to vote for me, and I don't care if you do.

WCS: There are 5 scum and 3 SKers and 6 town, and I know this because of previous games poorly remembered! Yay!

Idiots.

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 09:32 PM

Actually, I think Serc may be right (OMGzor, I'm agreeing with him that you're an idiot), and you're high atm. Because there is no way in hell anyone can claim as you're doing. Or do you have some inside info? Hmmm?

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 09:34 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on Aug 26 2009, 04:32 PM, said:

Actually, I think Serc may be right (OMGzor, I'm agreeing with him that you're an idiot), and you're high atm. Because there is no way in hell anyone can claim as you're doing. Or do you have some inside info? Hmmm?


I do have some info. It isn't inside because anyone with a brain who reads the thread will see it, but here it is for people who are too slow to be able to follow the thread:

You are an idiot.

Ta.

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