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Mafia 49: Highlander There can be only One!

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 10:04 AM

Hrm, the other thing is, if we're assuming a lot of scum, what is to say they're all killing roles? No reason for that. Could be an FM, cult, or similar. Otherwise absorbing powers is fairly useless, imo, unless you start getting multiple kills a night, which would be insane. *shrug*
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Posted 16 July 2009 - 10:26 AM

There is no cult in the game.
All victory conditions have been listed.

I am currently escaping my meeting on the premises of a toilet break, so can't answer PMs or do a vote count update. I hope you'll forgive me the inconvenience.
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Posted 16 July 2009 - 10:33 AM

No problem, PS, no problem. Not like anybody else is really participating.

Interesting, however, that you denied the existence of a cult...but made no mention of an FM. Very interesting.
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Posted 16 July 2009 - 10:34 AM

View PostBarghast, on Jul 16 2009, 12:33 PM, said:

No problem, PS, no problem. Not like anybody else is really participating.

Interesting, however, that you denied the existence of a cult...but made no mention of an FM. Very interesting.


Italics makes it scarier :harhar:

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 10:36 AM

That was the idea, Silanah. :harhar:
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Posted 16 July 2009 - 10:42 AM

It is Day 1. 8 hours and 27 minutes remaining

19 Players still alive: Alkend, Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Barghast, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Karatallid, Karosis, Kessobahn, Korbas, Korlat, Okaros, Silanah, Sorrit

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night

1 vote for Gamelon: ( Karosis )
1 vote for Korlat: ( Okaros )
1 vote for Emurlahn: ( Silanah )
1 vote for Fener: ( Fener )

Players not voted: Alkend, Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Barghast, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korbas, Korlat, Sorrit

B, headed to work
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 16 July 2009 - 10:53 AM

View PostBarghast, on Jul 16 2009, 12:33 PM, said:

No problem, PS, no problem. Not like anybody else is really participating.

Interesting, however, that you denied the existence of a cult...but made no mention of an FM. Very interesting.

A cult cannot be 'last man standing' unless it's also fighting itself. A FM by contrast can be last man standing.

I wanted to emphasize that all scum, no matter their actions, can fulfill the scum win condition independent of possible other scum, whether these have the same or different PM contents. Make of that what you will :harhar:
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 16 July 2009 - 10:53 AM

View PostKaratallid, on Jul 16 2009, 08:41 AM, said:

Ok... so the most important fact we have is that the scum are playing till "the last man standing."
So this means they are going to be making cases against each other just as readily as we would.
Which means finding one scum wont give us allot of info with regards to the rest.

Also it would seem that scum having majority doesnt end the game.
Which would make vigs very important end game if we are looking like the minority (if there are any that is)

I would think that there are most likely 3 scum killers. Each having a symp. Any more than that would be a mess. I could be wrong ofcourse but thats my take on things.
As far as RI's being able to gain a night action?....im clueless. Best bet has something to do with lynching? As RI's have no other way besides lynching to influence the game.


edit - talking in 3rd person then not....not making sense

So this struck me as odd. What part of "last man standing" would imply that there are symps? As P-S said above, there are no secret, hidden victory conditions like "win with your symp," so symps make no sense to me in this game.

If a killer wins by himself, that would mean that he would have to kill his symp at some point, and if the symp inherits the killer's power when he dies, and also wins alone, then it would be in the symp's best interest to get his master lynched as quickly as possible. Either there are secondary killers that activate once the primary killers die, but have no knowledge of who the primary killers are, or there are no symps whatsoever.

Either way, I wouldn't expect to see any "signaling" going on this game, and anyone who uses the possibility of such behavior in a case comes off to me like scum trying to drum up a bad lynch (I'm looking at you, Sil), but that's just my opinion.

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 10:54 AM

Well, I won't be on for deadline. This I know. I'll leave you all with a vote, (though very hard to choose between Gam and the case on Emur);

Vote Emurlahn

Because it has more substance, and we can keep an eye on Gam for further strange behaviour as the game progresses. 'Course, we can keep an eye on Emur if he survives as well. But yeah. Substance > Weird. At least this time, for me.
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Posted 16 July 2009 - 11:00 AM

View PostKorbas, on Jul 16 2009, 10:53 AM, said:

View PostKaratallid, on Jul 16 2009, 08:41 AM, said:

Ok... so the most important fact we have is that the scum are playing till "the last man standing."
So this means they are going to be making cases against each other just as readily as we would.
Which means finding one scum wont give us allot of info with regards to the rest.

Also it would seem that scum having majority doesnt end the game.
Which would make vigs very important end game if we are looking like the minority (if there are any that is)

I would think that there are most likely 3 scum killers. Each having a symp. Any more than that would be a mess. I could be wrong ofcourse but thats my take on things.
As far as RI's being able to gain a night action?....im clueless. Best bet has something to do with lynching? As RI's have no other way besides lynching to influence the game.


edit - talking in 3rd person then not....not making sense

So this struck me as odd. What part of "last man standing" would imply that there are symps? As P-S said above, there are no secret, hidden victory conditions like "win with your symp," so symps make no sense to me in this game.

If a killer wins by himself, that would mean that he would have to kill his symp at some point, and if the symp inherits the killer's power when he dies, and also wins alone, then it would be in the symp's best interest to get his master lynched as quickly as possible. Either there are secondary killers that activate once the primary killers die, but have no knowledge of who the primary killers are, or there are no symps whatsoever.

Either way, I wouldn't expect to see any "signaling" going on this game, and anyone who uses the possibility of such behavior in a case comes off to me like scum trying to drum up a bad lynch (I'm looking at you, Sil), but that's just my opinion.




well a symp by definition would win if his master wins...regardless of being dead or alive.

I suppose you are right though....but i wont completely write off the possibility of there being symps.

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 11:04 AM

Anyway, as implied by my last post, I am now off to sleep. See you all in about 10 hours.
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Posted 16 July 2009 - 11:35 AM

View PostKaratallid, on Jul 16 2009, 01:00 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on Jul 16 2009, 10:53 AM, said:

View PostKaratallid, on Jul 16 2009, 08:41 AM, said:

Ok... so the most important fact we have is that the scum are playing till "the last man standing."
So this means they are going to be making cases against each other just as readily as we would.
Which means finding one scum wont give us allot of info with regards to the rest.

Also it would seem that scum having majority doesnt end the game.
Which would make vigs very important end game if we are looking like the minority (if there are any that is)

I would think that there are most likely 3 scum killers. Each having a symp. Any more than that would be a mess. I could be wrong ofcourse but thats my take on things.
As far as RI's being able to gain a night action?....im clueless. Best bet has something to do with lynching? As RI's have no other way besides lynching to influence the game.


edit - talking in 3rd person then not....not making sense

So this struck me as odd. What part of "last man standing" would imply that there are symps? As P-S said above, there are no secret, hidden victory conditions like "win with your symp," so symps make no sense to me in this game.

If a killer wins by himself, that would mean that he would have to kill his symp at some point, and if the symp inherits the killer's power when he dies, and also wins alone, then it would be in the symp's best interest to get his master lynched as quickly as possible. Either there are secondary killers that activate once the primary killers die, but have no knowledge of who the primary killers are, or there are no symps whatsoever.

Either way, I wouldn't expect to see any "signaling" going on this game, and anyone who uses the possibility of such behavior in a case comes off to me like scum trying to drum up a bad lynch (I'm looking at you, Sil), but that's just my opinion.




well a symp by definition would win if his master wins...regardless of being dead or alive.

I suppose you are right though....but i wont completely write off the possibility of there being symps.


Soo, you're around enough to be able to responde to posts that can cause frowns your way, but not contribute in other areas? *sigh*

As for the symp thing, I hadn't fully considered the only one victory condition. It does seem unlikely that there's a symp, though I agree with Kara that we shouldn't write of the possiblity in its entirety. Mind you, my vote was hardly anything more than to create some sort of response, and it turned out to be based on a poor premise even by those standards

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 11:49 AM

yes im around enough to discuss a query on one of my posts....so fucking what?
Im busy...

what areas would you have me discuss oh mighty one!!???

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 11:58 AM

19 Players still alive: Alkend, Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Barghast, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Karatallid, Karosis, Kessobahn, Korbas, Korlat, Okaros, Silanah, Sorrit

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night

1 vote for Gamelon: ( Karosis )
1 vote for Korlat: ( Okaros )
2 votes for Emurlahn: ( Silanah, Barghast )
1 vote for Fener: ( Fener )

Players not voted: Alkend, Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korbas, Korlat, Sorrit


I think thats correct, not alot of time to double check. Let us know if its wrong, one of us will fix it.
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Posted 16 July 2009 - 12:02 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on Jul 16 2009, 07:58 PM, said:

19 Players still alive: Alkend, Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Barghast, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Karatallid, Karosis, Kessobahn, Korbas, Korlat, Okaros, Silanah, Sorrit

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night

1 vote for Gamelon: ( Karosis )
1 vote for Korlat: ( Okaros )
2 votes for Emurlahn: ( Silanah, Barghast )
1 vote for Fener: ( Fener )

Players not voted: Alkend, Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korbas, Korlat, Sorrit


I think thats correct, not alot of time to double check. Let us know if its wrong, one of us will fix it.
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theres no time show

edit: *shown

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 12:03 PM

ugh, the evening was eventful
I desperately need sleep, will take a look at new posts, and then i'm out for the night.

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 12:05 PM

Hello. mafia became srss business since I left. So, gam is overreacting, emur has a full case (and I was briefly fingered for a symp).

I don't ind the case on emur - it's more fledged out that a normal day 1 effort. gam's comes across as more suspicious in a way. i'm intrested in seeing the discussion that results before I make a vote. and looks like we could have a fun Sil and Karat fight :harhar:

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 12:09 PM

It is Day 1. 7 hours and 1 minute remaining

19 Players still alive: Alkend, Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Barghast, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Karatallid, Karosis, Kessobahn, Korbas, Korlat, Okaros, Silanah, Sorrit

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night

1 vote for Gamelon: ( Karosis )
1 vote for Korlat: ( Okaros )
2 votes for Emurlahn: ( Silanah, Barghast )
1 vote for Fener: ( Fener )

Players not voted: Alkend, Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korbas, Korlat, Sorrit


Work comp wouldn't copy that part, weird....anyway, thats accurate.
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 16 July 2009 - 12:10 PM

so this emur case intrigues me. its based on a lack of content on day 1? that sounds rather stupid to me. later on thats more important then someone acting weird but on day 1 i think acting strange is a better case then lack of content

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 12:12 PM

If Gamelon is suspicious for overreacting (and he is).....

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yes im around enough to discuss a query on one of my posts....so fucking what?
Im busy...

what areas would you have me discuss oh mighty one!!???


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