[Karatallid]

Ill add my vote

Vote Kessohbahn


On friday when i left it was either him or karosis for me....I never liked him much...but ended up voting karosis, id was really a toss of the coin between the two for me.
He has tried to be very below radar and posts only when he must. I totally agree with silanah

I also think there should have been a night kill on him, he was a big suspect for being a killer and no one killed him, wich leads me to believe he is very likely a killer himself.

[Karatallid]

Fener, on Jul 18 2009, 04:11 PM, said:

lol @ GL, at least that solves that mystery

I went ahead and looked into the votes, Gamelon. Also, LOL COLOR-CODED CHARTS in advance of all people who call it scummy.

Red means dead scum
Green means dead town.
Yellow is anybody who voted the same way both days (either on the train both days or didn't vote both days).

Still aliv: Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Eloth, Gamelon, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korbas, Silanah

Day 1 Votes
2 votes for Karatallid: ( Okaros, Ampelas)
10 votes for Barghast: ( Sorrit, Karatallid, Silanah, Korbas, Fener, Korlat, Emurlahn, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal)
2 votes for Emurlahn: ( Barghast, Karosis )
1 vote for Silanah: ( Eloth )

Players not voted: Alkend, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Kessobahn


Day 2 Votes
1 vote for Kessobahn: ( Silanah )
8 votes for Karosis: ( Anomandaris, Karatallid, Fener, Korbas, Kessobahn, Eloth, Alkend, Atrahal )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Anthras, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Karosis


Some noteworthy things:

• Five of us have voted on both trains. Nobody that has voted on both trains is dead.
  
• Atrahal hammered both times.
  
• Gamelon has highest post count other than P-S yet hasn't voted to lynch anybody.
  
• Karat was the second vote on both days. Fener (me) and Korbas have voted back-to-back both times.

Based on those findings alone, Atrahal looks scummy for two hammers, Gamelon looks scummy for failing to vote with all of his posts. I'm giving Korbas the benefit of the doubt here in that both times we just added our votes on what seemed the only likely lynch for the day and I'm town so his play seems townish. Karat pushed the vote count to two both days, so could be some scumminess in there, too.

Most likely to be scum (IMO): Gamelon and Atrahal, maybe Karatallid

Probably missing someone in there, too.

Gonna keep my vote on Atrahal for one reason, Gamelon suggested the vote recounts and while it's WIFOM, I am not certain scum would intentionally highlight his or her voting behavior. So Atrahal is suspect #1 for me.

I read this and started laughing.
this makes absolutely no sense al all....how did you get to your suspects again?....they were consistent? fuckagn hilarious.

Id vote you after kessoh for this completely rubbish post....
its like your trying to brainwash us with all your fancy colours... common sense be DAMNED

[Silanah]

I interpreted that as just the ramblings of a too enthusiastic, though somewhat confused, inno.. I guess I'm in a better mood today than you are

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 23 hours and 11 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Eloth, Fener, Gamelon, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korbas, Silanah

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night

1 vote for Atrahal: ( Fener )
2 votes for Kessobahn: ( Silanah, Karatallid )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Eloth, Gamelon, Kessobahn, Korbas

[Karatallid]

Silanah, on Jul 20 2009, 10:57 AM, said:

I interpreted that as just the ramblings of a too enthusiastic, though somewhat confused, inno.. I guess I'm in a better mood today than you are

meh

[Anomandaris]

I agree that Fener seems more inno than scum. Or if he is scum he must be scum with giant testiculae given the amount of attention he has drawn to himself with the alt hate etc.

I am unsure about Kessobahn. At first read he strikes as another confused inno, but Silanah's point about the 'don't look at me' style is thought provoking. I am not ready to vote yet, and there is plenty of time.

[Silanah]

Karatallid, on Jul 20 2009, 01:06 PM, said:

Silanah, on Jul 20 2009, 10:57 AM, said:

I interpreted that as just the ramblings of a too enthusiastic, though somewhat confused, inno.. I guess I'm in a better mood today than you are

meh

Are you trying to pick a fight? I just wish to point out that I'm an awesome dragon whereas you're tinsy little dragon.

[Eloth]

Hey all

[Silanah]

Eloth, on Jul 20 2009, 01:54 PM, said:

Hey all

[Atrahal]

hello everyone, have a good weekend? I know I did!

you know, up to this point I had just had kesso pegged as an oddly playing low poster whom I was unsure about but who had been painted as a quite possible scum a few times. but that he hasnt been NKd is indeed a good point. of course theres then the WIFOm of maybe they wont kill him because he looks like scum and deflects from the real killers.

I will be onall evening so when the timer gets lower and hopefully after hes had a chance to argue himself I will gladly vote him, hopefully not as a hammer this time so I can get a combo breaker

[Silanah]

Atrahal, on Jul 20 2009, 02:26 PM, said:

hello everyone, have a good weekend? I know I did!

you know, up to this point I had just had kesso pegged as an oddly playing low poster whom I was unsure about but who had been painted as a quite possible scum a few times. but that he hasnt been NKd is indeed a good point. of course theres then the WIFOm of maybe they wont kill him because he looks like scum and deflects from the real killers.

I will be onall evening so when the timer gets lower and hopefully after hes had a chance to argue himself I will gladly vote him, hopefully not as a hammer this time so I can get a combo breaker

yes cause the other killers would know who the reall killers are because they can cooperate for a joint victory..

[Karatallid]

Atrahal, on Jul 20 2009, 12:26 PM, said:

hello everyone, have a good weekend? I know I did!

you know, up to this point I had just had kesso pegged as an oddly playing low poster whom I was unsure about but who had been painted as a quite possible scum a few times. but that he hasnt been NKd is indeed a good point. of course theres then the WIFOm of maybe they wont kill him because he looks like scum and deflects from the real killers.

I will be onall evening so when the timer gets lower and hopefully after hes had a chance to argue himself I will gladly vote him, hopefully not as a hammer this time so I can get a combo breaker

I dont know about that....if i were a killer i would try and take out who i felt was the other killer before he takes me out.
If you die as scum....you lose.

[Atrahal]

Karatallid, on Jul 20 2009, 08:32 PM, said:

Atrahal, on Jul 20 2009, 12:26 PM, said:

hello everyone, have a good weekend? I know I did!

you know, up to this point I had just had kesso pegged as an oddly playing low poster whom I was unsure about but who had been painted as a quite possible scum a few times. but that he hasnt been NKd is indeed a good point. of course theres then the WIFOm of maybe they wont kill him because he looks like scum and deflects from the real killers.

I will be onall evening so when the timer gets lower and hopefully after hes had a chance to argue himself I will gladly vote him, hopefully not as a hammer this time so I can get a combo breaker

I dont know about that....if i were a killer i would try and take out who i felt was the other killer before he takes me out.
If you die as scum....you lose.

yeah there is that. depends on how ballsy the other killer(s) is(are) because if there was only one killer left now hed have a long way to go to win with only 1 kill a night.

alternatively, if the killer-A is very sure for some reason kesso isnt killer-B, then hed let kesso live to hopefully be a target for killer-B while killer-A tries to find and take out killer-B. I dont think thats too likely though because kesso hasnt done anything that would convince a killer of his innosense. the only way that scenario would work, imo, is if a killer had found or guarded him

[Karatallid]

my point is that there are 2 killers...and both are independent, BOTH would have to think the same as what you are saying independently.

Weras if Kessoh is a killer himself, it would only lead us to believe that only the other killer might be thinking what you are suggesting....which for my money has ALLOt more chance of being the case.

Remember night one Ehmurlahn was killed bacause he was the "other choice" to barghast.
So why didnt it happen last night?...i reckon kessoh is scum...the more i think on it the more it makes sense to go for him...

[Atrahal]

Karatallid, on Jul 20 2009, 09:14 PM, said:

my point is that there are 2 killers...and both are independent, BOTH would have to think the same as what you are saying independently.

Weras if Kessoh is a killer himself, it would only lead us to believe that only the other killer might be thinking what you are suggesting....which for my money has ALLOt more chance of being the case.

Remember night one Ehmurlahn was killed bacause he was the "other choice" to barghast.
So why didnt it happen last night?...i reckon kessoh is scum...the more i think on it the more it makes sense to go for him...

logical reasoning, a precedent case AND a bit of an emotional appeal right at the end there. you sir should be a lawyer!

we the jury find:
vote kessobahn

you may bang the gavel :broody:

(was tempted to be the hammer again so I could be like the foreman and say "we find you guilty" and then hed get lynched, but that would look really bad if I hammered a 3rd time!)

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 20 hours and 43 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Eloth, Fener, Gamelon, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korbas, Silanah

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night

1 vote for Atrahal: ( Fener )
3 votes for Kessobahn: ( Silanah, Karatallid, Atrahal )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, Anthras, Eloth, Gamelon, Kessobahn, Korbas

[Karatallid]

Atrahal, on Jul 20 2009, 01:25 PM, said:

Karatallid, on Jul 20 2009, 09:14 PM, said:

my point is that there are 2 killers...and both are independent, BOTH would have to think the same as what you are saying independently.

Weras if Kessoh is a killer himself, it would only lead us to believe that only the other killer might be thinking what you are suggesting....which for my money has ALLOt more chance of being the case.

Remember night one Ehmurlahn was killed bacause he was the "other choice" to barghast.
So why didnt it happen last night?...i reckon kessoh is scum...the more i think on it the more it makes sense to go for him...

logical reasoning, a precedent case AND a bit of an emotional appeal right at the end there. you sir should be a lawyer!

we the jury find:
vote kessobahn

you may bang the gavel :broody:

(was tempted to be the hammer again so I could be like the foreman and say "we find you guilty" and then hed get lynched, but that would look really bad if I hammered a 3rd time!)

worried about looking bad are we?

[Atrahal]

Karatallid, on Jul 20 2009, 09:30 PM, said:

Atrahal, on Jul 20 2009, 01:25 PM, said:

Karatallid, on Jul 20 2009, 09:14 PM, said:

my point is that there are 2 killers...and both are independent, BOTH would have to think the same as what you are saying independently.

Weras if Kessoh is a killer himself, it would only lead us to believe that only the other killer might be thinking what you are suggesting....which for my money has ALLOt more chance of being the case.

Remember night one Ehmurlahn was killed bacause he was the "other choice" to barghast.
So why didnt it happen last night?...i reckon kessoh is scum...the more i think on it the more it makes sense to go for him...

logical reasoning, a precedent case AND a bit of an emotional appeal right at the end there. you sir should be a lawyer!

we the jury find:
vote kessobahn

you may bang the gavel :broody:

(was tempted to be the hammer again so I could be like the foreman and say "we find you guilty" and then hed get lynched, but that would look really bad if I hammered a 3rd time!)

worried about looking bad are we?

well yeah! I dont wanna get lynched because I know im inno and an asset to my team!

[Silanah]

oh well, that clears it then

[Atrahal]

damnit. I went to reread ampelas and and got to the last post, checked the time and then remembered he was dead...