[Gamelon]

Silanah, on Jul 17 2009, 02:32 AM, said:

Gamelon, on Jul 17 2009, 08:27 AM, said:

Well, I agree with you on how that would be if we had general game dynamics, Sil. However, there is good reason for scum to find themselves on that train as well, this game, seeing as how they have nothing to lose in lynching either other scum or inno.

Edit: X post.

true, but that's all it gives us. Scum might be on both trains. The whole symp thing is stupid and I'm very embarassed that I brought it up early on.

We can't really find scum through the lynch trains in this game outside of fitting their participation into a pattern that fits with a sum role. Basically, we can find scum through slips, general play, or finders.

I get what you are saying, and those are probably the best avenues of approach. However, if you are scum you know you and you only this game, I imagine. Therefore, I think scum might be even more ready to hop on random trains than normal because of this factor. Then again, the Okaros being scum kind of makes that theory less indicative.

As per your top two targets, Kesso I'll have to take a look at. Eloth, on the other hand, is either the smartest or worst scum of all time if he is, and occams' razor says he isn't to me at this point.

[Silanah]

aye, I'm more inclined towards Kesso too.. hmm, wasnt Kesso the player who was so vehemently convinced killers can only have one night action?

[Gamelon]

He's only got ten posts, so it wouldn't take long to find out. I'm debating whether or not I'm up to it, right now.

[Silanah]

Gamelon, on Jul 17 2009, 08:44 AM, said:

He's only got ten posts, so it wouldn't take long to find out. I'm debating whether or not I'm up to it, right now.

I'm technically working, so if you'd like to I would apreciate it

[Gamelon]

I read through Kesso, and I think the problem people have with him is the fact that he hopped on Eloth for making a random case. Fairly understandable, in my opinion, because Kesso's case had just a tiny bit more content than Eloth's whose case was shit. However, shortly into this discussion, Eloth comes back talking about how Kesso is dumb or something, I'm not sure. But look at the quote:

Eloth, on Jul 16 2009, 01:39 PM, said:

no symps doesnt mean no partners/temp alliances

Now, a question I'd like answered, from our enigmatic alt, is what in the hell does this mean? Do you think scum can communicate? Because that's what it sounds like.

Edit: grammar and spelling.

This post has been edited by Gamelon: 17 July 2009 - 07:08 AM

[Karatallid]

Path-Shaper, on Jul 16 2009, 06:05 PM, said:

Okaros is dead. He was scum.
Emurlahn is dead. He was scum.
Sorrit is dead. He was of the town.
Korlat is dead. He was of the town.


Relevant PMs are incoming.
Please remember to enter SH on your game alts.

It is now day again (timer will have a slight delay)

holy shit.... O_o

well done...

Busy catching up...it would seem that there are 4 killers (if there was no vig) and two are dead....
we are half way there

[Karatallid]

Korbas, on Jul 16 2009, 09:19 PM, said:

Eloth, on Jul 16 2009, 09:53 PM, said:

in a game like this, would an inno try and twist my words to make me look like scum, instead of actually looking for scum?
Vote Korbas

I was just poking you for not making any sense, but way to over-react there.

Why is it that every time some one does ANYTHING now days....someone plays the overreaction card?
Its the 3rd or 4th time ive seen it used this game...

[Karatallid]

Anthras, on Jul 16 2009, 09:51 PM, said:

I don't suppose you looked into the non-scum players to see why they might have been targeted. Not that any of it really matters as like all night kills it is WIFOM.
Personally I am hoping that all of you scum don't get BP's when you kill one another. That would make the game drag on after a couple of days. However it could be that a scum has to kill a scum in order to be able to kill again. If there is a high level of scum then that could easily be a possibility. Especially if a town vig would be able to get the same ability. Oh I like that idea. If a vig or scum kill a non scum then they might get what ever ability that person had assuming they had an ability. Why then the person who scum would most not want to kill would be someone with out an ability cause then they would be scum with out a power. That is twisted and might be complex enough to be a tmdi 10.

this makes no sense...if a scum cant kill if he hits an inno...then he loses his kill power....then how is he supposed to kill another killer to get his kill power back?

[Karatallid]

Karosis, on Jul 17 2009, 01:17 AM, said:

I'm up, at work, and caught up. :<

2 dead scum is heavy.

vote Karatallid

because he led the barghast train, and was willing to vote off either him or myself for placing a vote on Emurlahn, who turned out scum.

OMGUS!!

Also just because you placed a vote on someone who turned out scum does NOT make you in any way innocent.
I like how you try to make us think that however....sneaky sneaky

[Karatallid]

Karosis, on Jul 17 2009, 01:57 AM, said:

I wouldn't say we have nothing to wok with.
there's the Barghast train.

Keeping in mind that Barghast was voting for a known scum, and that was the reason he got lynched, that train surely desrves some attention.

here he goes again....nice try, voting for known scum does not clear you of being scum, not byba long shot.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 22 hours and 22 minutes remaining

14 Players still alive: Alkend, Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Karatallid, Karosis, Kessobahn, Korbas, Silanah

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night

1 vote for Karatallid: ( Karosis )
2 votes for Fener: ( Fener, Atrahal )
1 vote for Korbas: ( Eloth )

Players not voted: Alkend, Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korbas, Silanah

Feel free to inform me if I missed a vote somewhere.

- Tapper, still half asleep.

[Silanah]

Well, I'm going to follow my gut on this one and vote

Kessobahn

For following a classic scum tactic by trying to CI himself through the defence of an inno when there's no reason for him to have been as confident as he was regarding Barghast's innocence.

Also on being very confident as to scum having one night action only when that's not stated by PS

If nothing else this should make him participate more

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 22 hours and 12 minutes remaining

14 Players still alive: Alkend, Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Karatallid, Karosis, Kessobahn, Korbas, Silanah

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night

1 vote for Karatallid: ( Karosis )
1 vote for Kessobahn: ( Silanah )
2 votes for Fener: ( Fener, Atrahal )
1 vote for Korbas: ( Eloth )

Players not voted: Alkend, Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korbas

[Gamelon]

Karat are you saying that Karosis' attempts at labeling you scum makes him scummy or just refuting his claim?

Also, I won't dispute a gut feeling vote, Silanah, because my gut has paid off before, but if you could relate to me why you are voting for Kesso, I'd appreciate it.

[Karatallid]

Silanah, on Jul 17 2009, 07:59 AM, said:

Well, I'm going to follow my gut on this one and vote

Kessobahn

For following a classic scum tactic by trying to CI himself through the defence of an inno when there's no reason for him to have been as confident as he was regarding Barghast's innocence.

Also on being very confident as to scum having one night action only when that's not stated by PS

If nothing else this should make him participate more

you could say the same thing about korosis in my eyes he also is trying to PI himself by saying he was on the train of a killer.

[Karatallid]

Gamelon, on Jul 17 2009, 08:02 AM, said:

Karat are you saying that Karosis' attempts at labeling you scum makes him scummy or just refuting his claim?

Also, I won't dispute a gut feeling vote, Silanah, because my gut has paid off before, but if you could relate to me why you are voting for Kesso, I'd appreciate it.

No....he claims i am scum because i voted him, while he was voting for scum....this is him saying that he is inno and i am scum....simply because he was voting for scum.
It doesnt work that way this game. So he is talking out of his ass...

[Karatallid]

And whats with fener voting himself the whoe time?
Get over yourself already....you keep it up and you might just get your wish.

[Gamelon]

Okay, so people claiming that a vote for somebody who is scum doesn't PI them because enemies of my enemies are my enemy doesn't apply in this instance? I think that might be confusing.

[Karatallid]

He is saying "oooh look at me i was voting for a killer, and then Karat voted me....I am inno and he must be scum"
Its bullshit, killers want to take out other killers. So you cant come to that conclusion.

And fener seems so cock sure there are no symps, so if this is true...then how does karosis come to this conclusion.
Its completely incorrect to assume this in this particular game...any other game, hell yea it makes sense. but not this one.
Its a serious case of OMGUS from karosis...because i finger banged him yesterday along with barghast. Perhaps he wants to nip his biggest accuser in the but while i was away?

He's also insinuates that since he was voting for a killer he is now immune to scrutiny....bollox i say

[Karatallid]

The simple fact that karosis made an issue out of the fact that he was voting for a killer says to me that there could be something there.