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I'm quitting smoking No, really. I'm serious.

#421 User is offline   HoosierDaddy 

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 10:40 PM

I was offered $100.00 a couple of times to smoke while out with friends.

I followed Nancy Reagan's advice.

But that would have bought a shit ton of drinks.
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Posted 24 February 2010 - 10:42 PM

Shit, I would pretend to smoke a cig for 100 dollars RIGHT NOW, and I'm sitting in a 7th grade health class.
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Posted 24 February 2010 - 10:46 PM

I wouldn't have pretended as that would have been lying. And, this was only within the first couple months of quitting and while being out with friends hammered. Odds of me relapsing and smoking a shit ton were much higher at that time.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 25 February 2010 - 12:09 AM

 H.D., on 24 February 2010 - 10:40 PM, said:

I was offered $100.00 a couple of times to smoke while out with friends.

I followed Nancy Reagan's advice...


You pretended your friends didn't have Alzheimer's?

- Abyss, would do it for $50.
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Posted 01 March 2010 - 01:54 PM

 Raymond Luxury Yacht, on 24 February 2010 - 10:42 PM, said:

Shit, I would pretend to smoke a cig for 100 dollars RIGHT NOW, and I'm sitting in a 7th grade health class.


dude, you're browsing forums while teaching? fuckin' A :o


anyways, using the fact that my recent illness kept me off the smoke for 3 days so far... I'll have a go at this. For the last year my health and immunity have been on the decline and I suspect I've got cigarettes to thank for that, among other things like excessive consumption of coffee and lack of sleep and excercise.
So, as the first part of a contingency plan for better health, I'm gonna go ahead and try to quit. Big test tomorrow at work I guess.
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Posted 02 March 2010 - 09:22 AM

Good luck. Read this thread for all my wisdom.
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Posted 02 March 2010 - 09:32 AM

It's not going as good as I hoped. Had 3 ciggies since saturday morning. I'm really going to need them gums or patches.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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Posted 02 March 2010 - 11:11 AM

 Gothos, on 02 March 2010 - 09:32 AM, said:

It's not going as good as I hoped. Had 3 ciggies since saturday morning. I'm really going to need them gums or patches.


Going on the wagon? Best of luck.
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Posted 02 March 2010 - 06:42 PM

You don't need the gum or patches, which only extend the amount of time you're addicted to nicotine. What you need is to resolve to not smoke, no matter how badly you want to. It's not a fatal addiction, you won't die without your fix. Just accept you're going to be miserable for a week or so, and cheating will only make this period last longer.
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Posted 02 March 2010 - 11:41 PM

By all accounts of the past, without nicotine I'm so adorable that I might lose my job and all my friends within that week.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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Posted 02 March 2010 - 11:51 PM

By all accounts of the present:

You no longer smell like smoke.
Your mouth no longer tastes like an ashtray.
And, your body is getting healthier minute by minute.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 08 March 2010 - 03:08 PM

 Gothos, on 02 March 2010 - 09:32 AM, said:

It's not going as good as I hoped. Had 3 ciggies since saturday morning. I'm really going to need them gums or patches.


You don't need the crutch. It only suppresses the need to smoke, but doesn't cure the chemical addiction. It's only a partial, very expensive cure. It's also just as difficult to quit the patches and the gums after awhile, if heavy-smoking friends who've tried them are any indication.

I admit patches and gums are a great way for pharmaceutical companies to make money, but they aren't trying to cure you. They're making shit-tons of money off your chemical addiction and the perception that chewing nicotine-laced gum fixes the problem. That's all.

Being hardline cold-turkey-rocking badass, you fix the problem fully at no monetary or health cost. You just need to be tough enough to endure a few weeks of discomfort. Something like the chewy sticks RLY used would be a better alternative. Gives you something to take your mind off the craving without actually reinforcing the addiction.

Second guess every single craving. You'll find it's addiction talking through your subconscious 99% of the time. Just tell it to fuck off and keep doing whatever you're doing.
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Posted 08 March 2010 - 07:26 PM

And beware of your addiction trying to rationalize with you. You'll find yourself thinking things like "I sure would be able to fall asleep if I had a smoke, and I have to get up early. I don't even WANT it right now, but a smoke is the responsible thing to do!" Just make the commitment to NEVER put a cig in your mouth for any reason. Once you do that, it's just a matter of riding out the withdrawal symptoms.
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Posted 08 March 2010 - 07:48 PM

and others will consider you to be waaaay tougher if you cold-turkey it.

RLY is the toughest guy I know.
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Posted 25 March 2010 - 01:25 PM

I gave up the smokes on the 4th January, doing it cold turkey, so far so good. I'm not really missing them even when out for a few pints. Good luck to all who have given them up..
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Posted 25 March 2010 - 02:03 PM

ooooooooooooooh tough guy....

Good jeorb grunthor.

Why the 4th of january by the way?
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Posted 25 March 2010 - 02:54 PM

Well well... its been a month. and I loooooooooooooooove it. No more coughing, hacking and rush-into-the-bathroom-to-spit in the morning, no more shaky need-a-smoke hands, and no more biting my fingernails either.

Ok ok, one of those things is a lie, but its a white lie.
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Posted 25 March 2010 - 03:48 PM

Good work! Just make sure you don't decide that it's going so well you should have a cigarette. I've seen it happen.
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Posted 26 March 2010 - 04:04 PM

 cerveza_fiesta, on 25 March 2010 - 02:03 PM, said:

ooooooooooooooh tough guy....

Good jeorb grunthor.

Why the 4th of january by the way?


It was a Monday, just finished the last of my smokes. I had been working up to giving them up in the new year and that seemed as good a day as any.
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Posted 26 March 2010 - 05:14 PM

cool. I wondered if it had to do with a new year resolution that just started late or something.

Did you announce it to eveybody? It's a lot harder to go back on it if you do, I find.
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