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Toc and the Barghast Spoilers from the end of MoI

#1 Knight of Darkness

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 05:13 PM

In the aftermath of Coral, when Toc has taken Annaster's body, he is approached by a Barghast (from what Toc can tell) who wants to know if he's alright. From Toc's description, the Barghast has so many wounds that he's surprised he's alive and still able to walk around. Mallet describes Trotts in a similar way after Trotts accidentally stabbed him. Trotts died though, so I'm getting somewhat confused :killingme:

We never get to know who the Barghast is at the end of MoI, but from what it looks like it was Trotts. 1: He had the same severe wounds. 2: Trotts is a Barghast. 3: Toc didn't know the Barghast who approached him, and from what I've read earlier there hasn't necessarily ever been an encounter between the two of them. So what I'm wondering about is: was it Trotts that Toc met, or was it someone else?

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 05:19 PM

It was Tool, he became mortal.

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 05:53 PM

Ahh, thanks. Yes, I saw he was mortal again at the end in the scene with him, Hetan and his sister, just didn't figure out that he was the Barghast. I didn't think of the similarity between the Imass and Barghast structure at that time, so I was quite sure it was a Barghast as Toc said it was one. Thanks for clearing it up :killingme:

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 02:08 PM

ATTENTION: Confused Kruppe Has Something to Bray!

Aptorian, on Jul 12 2009, 12:19 PM, said:

It was Tool, he became mortal.

Kruppe understood that the Barghast was Tool, but didn't understand how/why/when this happened. Was there any explanation in MoI for Tool's transformation? He just appeared out of nowhere and he was suddenly mortal again.

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 02:14 PM

Kruppe of Darujhistan, on Jul 13 2009, 10:08 AM, said:

ATTENTION: Confused Kruppe Has Something to Bray!

Aptorian, on Jul 12 2009, 12:19 PM, said:

It was Tool, he became mortal.

He was the First Sword and surrendered his position and the powers of Tellann to Silverfox in the new Beast Realm. It's not something any T'lan Imass could do and become mortal, but, well, he is the First Sword, he's special.

worrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 02:15 PM

When he threw his sword at Silverfox's feet, it was a symbolic way for him to say that he had finished with being the First Sword of the T'lann Imass and that Silverfox could free him from the Ritual

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 02:33 PM

Bauchelain the Evil, on Jul 13 2009, 10:15 AM, said:

When he threw his sword at Silverfox's feet, it was a symbolic way for him to say that he had finished with being the First Sword of the T'lann Imass and that Silverfox could free him from the Ritual

or that, though it remains to be seen whether returning to middle-aged mortal life is possible for any of the other T'lan Imass through Silverfox's release

worrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 07:50 PM

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well, he is the First Sword,

Genius D'rek.
I dont know if others realize that this is the joke the female Tlann Imass uses with Lady Envy.

I have seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter at the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain...."