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James Camerons "AVATAR" (2009 film) Awesomest sci-fi film or Awesomest sci-fi film?

#181 User is offline   Tiste Simeon 

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 04:57 PM

View PostJusentantaka, on 18 January 2010 - 04:53 PM, said:

View PostDarkwatch, on 18 January 2010 - 03:13 PM, said:


*Insert Deus Ex Machina here*



So, he leads a blueporn-raindance to clear plants off of a disused mass driver/railgun thing that the company started assembling towards the end to use to send cargo into space, and then the planet shits a blue ball of love which the gun shoots and it blows up the giant space ship?

OK this made me think, what happens when the porn industry gets a hold of the Stereoscopic camera?
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Posted 18 January 2010 - 04:58 PM

no, the blue people are goign to explore some caves, and run into a queen from aliens, who likes them because they aren't jack-asses. The queen is going to take over the ship sent from earth, leave the blue people to their planet, and begin the persecution of the human race.

Obviously.
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Posted 18 January 2010 - 05:07 PM

View PostTiste Simeon, on 18 January 2010 - 04:57 PM, said:


OK this made me think, what happens when the porn industry gets a hold of the Stereoscopic camera?


I don't know what it will be, but I do know that it will be divine.
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Posted 18 January 2010 - 05:11 PM

Reading online rumors about a sequel said they would go off-pandora..whatever that means.

And that cameron envisioned a trilogy, but was holding off pending success/failure of Avatar.

It would be cool if they completely abandoned the navii and shifted to a whole new planet of protagonists for the 2nd movie (a la gardens of the moon, followed by deadhouse gates), then find a good way to bring it all together in a human stomping rollick for the 3rd movie.

I'm thinking space-capable biological organisms here...like Tin-man from that (possibly the worst ever) episode of star trek TNG.

Except not make them look like giant floating turds.
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Posted 18 January 2010 - 05:30 PM

View PostAptorian, on 17 January 2010 - 05:35 PM, said:

...When he just kicks open the door to the poisonous atmosphere, steps out and begins unloading round after round at the scorpion I nearly creamed my pants. That scene could not have been more awesome if he had been standing knee deep in titties. Dude only remembers even marines need to breath air when an aid hands him a breather. I'm surprised the word BADASS wasn't just spelled out in big 3D letters all over that scene.

And of course, finally, the awesome battle mech showdown. Man I really wanted him to crush Sully. How cool is it that some military scientist, when he was making this mech, decided that no, a giant gun is not enough, my 15 foot robot needs a matching BADASS combat knife. Because what battle mechs need are knives. ...


I had a good laugh at both these things in the flic.

Btw, Gundam have had big frikkin mecha knives forever. but yeah, it was cool, and I was stunned at how easily he took out the big panther predator thingy (which was still cool as fnck).

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If the extra material doesn't contain a completely unnecessary clip of Sigourney Weaver strutting her stuff inside one of those mechs I will be very disappointed.


Mere words cannot describe my dissappointment at the absence of a tribute to that ALIENS scene... i was expecting/hoping for Sigourney's Navi body to be shot, and her to strap into a mech and kick out the doors screaming "GET AWAY FROM THEM YOU BASTARD!". Sadly, one can only dream.

View PostQuickTidal, on 17 January 2010 - 11:16 PM, said:

...We won't have to wait long to find out though, Cameron is working out the sequel now and said the other day that he put little bits in the first one to lead to plot points in the rest of the series...


One can only hope it's better than the sequel to Pocahontas.

View PostDarkwatch, on 18 January 2010 - 03:13 PM, said:

Well the sequel may just be the sheer threat of orbital bombardment for 3 hours.

I imagine the atmosphere would be rather different.

"What another beautiful day on Pandora!"

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"We're here for the McGuffin."

"You can't have it! This is our land! We beat you once we can do it again and we have Gaia Pandora's GOD on our side."

"I have an interstellar fleet in high orbit armed with Kinectic Bombardment weapons and bio and chemical weapons. As well as a full planetary invasion force and modern military equipment."

"Uh..."

"Yeah so, the McGuffin or you know, death from above."

*Insert Deus Ex Machina here*

"We are saved!"

*Insert 3rd movie here.*


Wasn't thatthe plot to THE FIFTH ELEMENT, only with the Power of Love thrown in somewhere?

View PostMezla PigDog, on 18 January 2010 - 03:43 PM, said:

... Considering the Navi are all peace and love, how come they have a warrior class......?


Cuz they are BADASS hippy aliens. And everything on the planet keeps trying to eat them.


View PostObdigore, on 18 January 2010 - 04:58 PM, said:

no, the blue people are goign to explore some caves, and run into a queen from aliens, who likes them because they aren't jack-asses. The queen is going to take over the ship sent from earth, leave the blue people to their planet, and begin the persecution of the human race.

Obviously.


ALIENS VS AVATAR.

You know you want it.

This flic just cleaned up at the GOLDEN GLOBES. Which is rediculous on all kinds of levels and another feeble attempt by an Awards body at summoning relevance.


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Posted 18 January 2010 - 05:52 PM

Aliens Avatar! But not the spidery one, that would ming. Instead of waking up into your real body full of the hippy memories, you'd wake up having spent the day a'meltin and a'killin and a'kickin-ass. Might make for some post-traumatic stress disorder but I'd like to give it a go!

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 06:23 PM

Actually, if you think about it, Avatar Navi bodies are ideal incubators for bigger, better, Aliens... imagine waking up in your shiny new big blue body... but there's a small problem nesting in your stomach...

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 06:36 PM

There was a Batman Vs Aliens comic where a facehugger gets ahold of a crocodile. The resulting alien is... impressive.
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Posted 18 January 2010 - 07:15 PM

That one was mildly better than JLA vs Predator, which was unfathomably craptastic. I still think the original Aliens vs Predator comic, on the cattle ranch world with the ninja lady protagonist, was the best mash up by far, but i'm biased.

On topic tho', we're probably looking at at least two more Avatar movies, a Saturday am cartoon, a comic, six novel tie-ins and a Disney ride before we get to see anyone riding To'Rak (or whatever the big frikin dragon thingy was called) at an Alien Queen. Sadly.


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Posted 18 January 2010 - 09:31 PM

The Aliens would RAPE the Na'vi period.

Which when one thinks of the ponytail scenes would be ironic karma for the Na'vi. Being throat raped.


And yes the word needed to be seen.

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Posted 19 January 2010 - 08:04 AM

I assume the Na'vi will find the remnants of an old civilization, possibly theirs, and use the technology to do whatever blue hippies do when they're in space.


Also, I must be the only one who didn't find the whole connect thing to be so evolutionary impossible. If the moon had been a bio network for enough time, it's only logical that creatures would evolve to be able to benefit from it. I am sure one can imagine uses from being able to connect to a network that covers an entire planet. The Na'vi simply evolved differently, being able to connect directly to other creatures, much like a parasite.
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 08:10 AM

If you use the nervous system, which is obvious, as a network, in a world where "Ehwa" or whatever, is the system of communications, there isn't much to wonder about. Literally everything is connected to the network, the only difficulty is connecting to the network, and that is solves by biologically engineered hardware.
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 09:43 AM

This still makes me laugh...

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Posted 19 January 2010 - 09:44 AM

View PostMezla PigDog, on 18 January 2010 - 03:43 PM, said:

Considering the Navi are all peace and love, how come they have a warrior class......?


Hunter/gatherer societies tend to have hunters that are pretty effective at working in a fairly hostile environment, and inter-tribal warfare. I wouldn't call them hardcore living weapons by any stretch, however when you have 500 3 metre tall dudes riding big-arse horses at you - or the same number on living fighter/bombers at some rather high speeds, they tend to take on a quality of their own.

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View PostDarkwatch, on 18 January 2010 - 03:13 PM, said:

*Insert Deus Ex Machina here*
So, he leads a blueporn-raindance ... driver/railgun thing ... planet shits a blue ball of love ... gun shoots and it blows up the giant space ship?


I think you just spoilered the Private version starring Rocco Siffredi. ^_^

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Actually, if you think about it, Avatar Navi bodies are ideal incubators for bigger, better, Aliens... imagine waking up in your shiny new big blue body... but there's a small problem nesting in your stomach...


That would be beyond cool. James Cameron would have to form some of constructicon hive intelligence director with Michael Bay, Tim Burton and Clint Eastwood - among others - to be able to depict that kind of baddassery and sheer fucked-up freakitude.

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I still think the original Aliens vs Predator comic, on the cattle ranch world with the ninja lady protagonist, was the best mash up by far, but i'm biased.


Yes. Which should have been the plot for the Alien vs Predator movie. But nooooo ... :pirate:

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I assume the Na'vi will find the remnants of an old civilization, possibly theirs, and use the technology to do whatever blue hippies do when they're in space.


What, eat magic mushrooms and smoke astounding amounts of weed while protesting inarticulately against anyone trying to accomplish anything?

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A 42-year-old Taiwanese man with a history of high blood pressure has died of a stroke likely triggered by over-excitement from watching the blockbuster Avatar in 3D, a doctor says.

The man, identified only by his surname Kuo, started to feel unwell during the screening earlier this month in the northern city of Hsinchu and was taken to hospital.

Mr Kuo, who suffered from hypertension, was unconscious when he arrived at the Nan Men General Hospital and a scan showed that his brain was haemorrhaging, emergency room doctor Peng Chin-chih said today.

"It's likely that the over-excitement from watching the movie triggered his symptoms,'' the doctor said.

Mr Kuo died 11 days later from the brain haemorrhage, and the China Times newspaper said it was the first death linked to watching James Cameron's science-fiction epic Avatar.

Film blogging sites have reported complaints of headaches, dizziness, nausea and blurry eyesight from viewers of Avatar and other movies rich in 3D imagery.

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Posted 19 January 2010 - 12:14 PM

anyone who reports nausea is faking it for attention.

You get more sick on the car ride to the goddamn theatre.
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 12:35 PM

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Posted 19 January 2010 - 12:59 PM

I thought I might feel sick. I get nauseous playing 1st person shooter games sometimes. How lame is that?! I was fine but I did have a headache afterwards. My eyes were also a bit sore like they are when you have been playing a game and forgotten to blink for a while! I would assume I was being pathetic but the other half suffered a bit too and he's generally normal.
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 01:04 PM

Yeah, I kinda just said that to be a jerk

I really received zero effect from wearing the 3D glasses though....not that' I'm a naturally motion-sickness prone person.

I just remember when Blair Witch came out and everybody in my school was like "omg it made me so sick...I had to leave" and you know they were just saying so for attention.

But is it the same thing at all? I mean Avatar had quick-moving scenes, but no moreso than your average action film. Is it an effect of the 3D you felt or an effect of the camera motion?

Still waiting for the lawsuit claiming damages for puking during Avatar though. Its gonna happen.
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 01:14 PM

I watched it with a bunch of friends, one of which was severaly hungover, he was not happy with the swooping scenery at all.
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Posted 19 January 2010 - 01:16 PM

I have no idea what it is. I don't get motion sick from genuine motion but pixels confuse the brain! An IMAX film really did for me once and the computer game sickness only comes on from really big tvs. I think it is when the motion takes up your entire vision, the brain can't find a spot to "ground" itself to reality.

EDIT - to follow from Apt's post, I spewed watching the first LOTR film! The bit where the camera swoops up and down the Tower of Isangard. I was humungously hungover so some of that film was very taxing on the stomach!

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