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I couldn't sleep and jsut had an epiphany about you. You can't be Basarvi because you killed Meanas. You also killed Gamelon after he revealed Basarvi. Of course the Falconer is dead, but Gamelon and other people that revealed kills were not the characters that were assumed to have killing powers. You are hunting the Basarvi intentionally. You are one of the sisters in the GK Faction, aren't you?
Also, my win condition is separate of all others. I can win with any faction and vice versa.
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 06:58 AM
I had it all wrong. Eloth is right, a 5-4-4-4-1 distribution means that almost certainly Basarvi and GK got one each. It's 2-3-3-1 right now and you are on the GK faction! That means that if I do not lynch your king today, you will kill me and I will lose.
You are now an outed threat to me and the other factions.
Vote Barghast
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You are now an outed threat to me and the other factions.
Vote Barghast
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This post has been edited by Silanah: 10 July 2009 - 07:00 AM
#1245 Guest_Barghast_*
Posted 10 July 2009 - 07:16 AM
You honestly think I am GK? After all your work to prove I am GB, you think I'm GK? As you say, I can't possibly be Barsavi, as I hit Meanas and he was, it seems, the Barsavi leader.
You have an interesting position now, Silanah. I can't be sure, but I'm seriously starting to doubt your reveal. You cannot have someone who wins with certain factions, and wins when all leaders are dead, but conveniently doesn't WIN when the leaders are dead.
I've been pushing attention off the GB's for a reason. I'm pointing out the Barsavi because their win condition is certainly met. The GB's are not in a good position, with our leader down, and the Grey King quite likely the last leader still around. I have said this all day. GB is the weakest faction. If I was GK, and had killed Barsavi, why would I bother drawing attention away from the GB? I wouldn't care who dies - any death not in my faction would then give a win, wouldn't it? I'm seriously thinking you are probably the GK himself.
Just out of curiosity, who did you get your first BP off?
You have an interesting position now, Silanah. I can't be sure, but I'm seriously starting to doubt your reveal. You cannot have someone who wins with certain factions, and wins when all leaders are dead, but conveniently doesn't WIN when the leaders are dead.
I've been pushing attention off the GB's for a reason. I'm pointing out the Barsavi because their win condition is certainly met. The GB's are not in a good position, with our leader down, and the Grey King quite likely the last leader still around. I have said this all day. GB is the weakest faction. If I was GK, and had killed Barsavi, why would I bother drawing attention away from the GB? I wouldn't care who dies - any death not in my faction would then give a win, wouldn't it? I'm seriously thinking you are probably the GK himself.
Just out of curiosity, who did you get your first BP off?
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 07:16 AM
It is Day 5. 19 hours and 38 minutes remaining
9 Players still alive: Ampelas, Barghast, Eloth, Galain, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Rashan, Silanah, Tellan
5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night
1 vote for Galain: ( Eloth )
1 vote for Barghast: ( Silanah )
1 vote for Eloth: ( Galain )
Players not voted: Ampelas, Barghast, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Rashan, Tellan
9 Players still alive: Ampelas, Barghast, Eloth, Galain, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Rashan, Silanah, Tellan
5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night
1 vote for Galain: ( Eloth )
1 vote for Barghast: ( Silanah )
1 vote for Eloth: ( Galain )
Players not voted: Ampelas, Barghast, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Rashan, Tellan
#1248 Guest_Barghast_*
Posted 10 July 2009 - 07:23 AM
Right, so day two. You lost it night three, then, gained one day four, and lost that night four, am I correct?
Your reveal makes sense, except it makes my GB faction insanely large to start with. O.o I mean, 5, 4, 4, 4, 1...then the four player faction of Spider is eliminated, bringing it to 5, 5, 5, 1. Rights the balance, doesn't it...hrm. Then we've lost how many? 3, and the other two factions have lost 2 each. That puts the GB in a crap position, don't you think?
Your reveal makes sense, except it makes my GB faction insanely large to start with. O.o I mean, 5, 4, 4, 4, 1...then the four player faction of Spider is eliminated, bringing it to 5, 5, 5, 1. Rights the balance, doesn't it...hrm. Then we've lost how many? 3, and the other two factions have lost 2 each. That puts the GB in a crap position, don't you think?
#1250 Guest_Barghast_*
Posted 10 July 2009 - 07:33 AM
Well, it has to be 5 players to start:
Anjais Barsavi
Nazca Barsavi
Pachero Barsavi
Capa Barsavi
Bug*
Calo Sanza*
Galdo Sanza*
Jean Tannen*
Locke Lamora*
Raiza Berangias
Cheryn Berangias
The Falconer
The Gray King
The Spider
Roland
*Are all named players who MUST be in the game, and therefore the GB faction had to start at five. Have I got all those names organized correctly? You said earlier something about sisters in the GK faction, so I assume the two that I don't know are GK. No wonder the Spider faction got raped early on, with only two named players, it can't have been very likely to succeed from it's initial position.
Eloth, you must be Bug or Calo Sanza, yes? Whichever one of those that hasn't died. Can you give me some book history on your character, Silanah? I want to know why your character's name isn't on that list...
Anjais Barsavi
Nazca Barsavi
Pachero Barsavi
Capa Barsavi
Bug*
Calo Sanza*
Galdo Sanza*
Jean Tannen*
Locke Lamora*
Raiza Berangias
Cheryn Berangias
The Falconer
The Gray King
The Spider
Roland
*Are all named players who MUST be in the game, and therefore the GB faction had to start at five. Have I got all those names organized correctly? You said earlier something about sisters in the GK faction, so I assume the two that I don't know are GK. No wonder the Spider faction got raped early on, with only two named players, it can't have been very likely to succeed from it's initial position.
Eloth, you must be Bug or Calo Sanza, yes? Whichever one of those that hasn't died. Can you give me some book history on your character, Silanah? I want to know why your character's name isn't on that list...
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 07:38 AM
I don't know the book, TBH, but what I was told when asking the moderator is that Chains, the guy who bought Locke, is a 'priest' of some Nameless 13th god. He's a god or patron of thieves and is called the Crooked Warden by them. AFAIK he's not in the book other than talked about.
I don't know why I'm here hunting all of the factions, including Locke (who is a thief and I'm supposed to protect them).
I don't know why I'm here hunting all of the factions, including Locke (who is a thief and I'm supposed to protect them).
#1253 Guest_Barghast_*
Posted 10 July 2009 - 07:44 AM
GB: Eloth, Amp, Barg
Bas: Tellan, Karat
GK: Galain, Rashan
??: GL
So, how does your distribution work out now? Gotta take Amp away from the GB's, and then they each fit into the other factions...unless GB received an extra recruit from the Spider's demise. If it was done randomly. Oh, and we can line up a whole bunch of players with names based on the reveals and CF's. I might do that later just to look at interactions.
Bas: Tellan, Karat
GK: Galain, Rashan
??: GL
So, how does your distribution work out now? Gotta take Amp away from the GB's, and then they each fit into the other factions...unless GB received an extra recruit from the Spider's demise. If it was done randomly. Oh, and we can line up a whole bunch of players with names based on the reveals and CF's. I might do that later just to look at interactions.
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 07:46 AM
You shouldn't refer to things sent to you from the moderator we have no way of knowing that is true or not. I'm pretty sure I want to vote you, either you have that win condition and you lead the lynch on my leader or you fake revealed and are a leader whose BP got hit last night. You definitely COULD have a healer I suppose, so I'm not certain Barg could get you tonight if he wanted. I'll see what happens come morning.
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 07:57 AM
@ Barg I dunno how I'd reorganize it just yet. I think it might be more productive to see what everyone else has to say on the reveals before we look at the faction make-ups.
@ Eloth, make of it what you will
@ Eloth, make of it what you will
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 11:29 AM
It is Day 5. 15 hours and 25 minutes remaining
9 Players still alive: Ampelas, Barghast, Eloth, Galain, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Rashan, Silanah, Tellan
5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night
1 vote for Barghast: ( Silanah )
1 vote for Eloth: ( Galain )
Players not voted: Ampelas, Barghast, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Rashan, Tellan
9 Players still alive: Ampelas, Barghast, Eloth, Galain, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Rashan, Silanah, Tellan
5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night
1 vote for Barghast: ( Silanah )
1 vote for Eloth: ( Galain )
Players not voted: Ampelas, Barghast, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Rashan, Tellan
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 12:02 PM
Good morning folks
Glad to see some more fireworks - a very interesting reveal there Sil. I think it was a terrible move by you. I mean not only are you declaring that you aren't on any of our factions, but you also declare that your victory is nearly imminent. The only reason we would have for keeping you around is to try and prevent a majority from any faction, but it seems to me we all agree that the factions are still pretty close number-wise, so there's not much point in keeping you at all, Sil.
You could be fake-revealing, and if so then it's either to draw out your opposing faction's killer, which assuming Barghast speaks true you've now done, or else it was to try and save yourself from getting lynched. if the former, your job is done and you're no longer needed. If the latter, then all the more reason to lynch you. But there's only one way we're going to find out for sure, and that is:
Vote Silanah
Glad to see some more fireworks - a very interesting reveal there Sil. I think it was a terrible move by you. I mean not only are you declaring that you aren't on any of our factions, but you also declare that your victory is nearly imminent. The only reason we would have for keeping you around is to try and prevent a majority from any faction, but it seems to me we all agree that the factions are still pretty close number-wise, so there's not much point in keeping you at all, Sil.
You could be fake-revealing, and if so then it's either to draw out your opposing faction's killer, which assuming Barghast speaks true you've now done, or else it was to try and save yourself from getting lynched. if the former, your job is done and you're no longer needed. If the latter, then all the more reason to lynch you. But there's only one way we're going to find out for sure, and that is:
Vote Silanah
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 12:22 PM
Alright i dont for one second believe Silanahs reveal as its way too out landish and makes me think he's trying to deflect the fact that Barg has apparently tried to kill him but failed which would make him a leader. So right now im not sure whose the biggest threat to my faction Silanah whose possibly a leader (with undisclosed abilities)or Barg whos a self confessed killer.
I think for now il go for the killer though im ok with lynching silanah as well.
Vote Barg
I think for now il go for the killer though im ok with lynching silanah as well.
Vote Barg
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 12:36 PM
It is Day 5. 14 hours and 18 minutes remaining
9 Players still alive: Ampelas, Barghast, Eloth, Galain, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Rashan, Silanah, Tellan
5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night
1 vote for Silanah: ( Tellan )
2 votes for Barghast: ( Silanah, Karatallid )
1 vote for Eloth: ( Galain )
Players not voted: Ampelas, Barghast, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Rashan
9 Players still alive: Ampelas, Barghast, Eloth, Galain, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Rashan, Silanah, Tellan
5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night
1 vote for Silanah: ( Tellan )
2 votes for Barghast: ( Silanah, Karatallid )
1 vote for Eloth: ( Galain )
Players not voted: Ampelas, Barghast, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Rashan
