Who is the Tyrant that everyone fears? speculation/spoilers inside (dont read unless you are done with TTH)
#141
Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:41 AM
Fair points... it still seems logical, though. I didn't - and still don't - recall any mention of the Tyrant having magical powers or of there ever being more than one Tyrant, but I may well be wrong. I do think it's safe to assume that Kallor was at least looking for a throne, probably that of the Tyrant of Darujistan, when Spinnock Durav got in his way (in Anomander's stead, because, of course, Anomander was busy).
I would reckon that Kallor's 'power', the one that scares the hell out of gods and mortals alike, is his ability to inspire obedience - look at the scenes with Nimander and co. They do as they're told, partially out of politeness, partially out of fear, but nevertheless, they do exactly as they're told.
I would reckon that Kallor's 'power', the one that scares the hell out of gods and mortals alike, is his ability to inspire obedience - look at the scenes with Nimander and co. They do as they're told, partially out of politeness, partially out of fear, but nevertheless, they do exactly as they're told.
#142
Posted 19 October 2010 - 08:00 AM
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'The history of Darujhistan,' he said. 'I am just beginning the fifth volume, which opens with the reign of Ektalm, second to last of the Tyrant Kings.'
Crokus blinked. 'Who?'
Smiling, Mammot sipped his tea. 'Usurper of Letastte and succeeded by his daughter, Sandenay, who brought on the Rising Time and with it the end of the age of tyrants.'
Crokus blinked. 'Who?'
Smiling, Mammot sipped his tea. 'Usurper of Letastte and succeeded by his daughter, Sandenay, who brought on the Rising Time and with it the end of the age of tyrants.'
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...an ancient, black-stained coin bearing the head of a man the shepherd didn’t recognize—not that he would, for that face belonged to the last Tyrant of Darujhistan.
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...a coin, someone had said, from Darujhistan, but long ago, in the time of the Tyrants.
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There were servants hidden in the city, and they were even now at work. To bring about a fell return,
to awaken one of the Tyrants of old.
to awaken one of the Tyrants of old.
That's the evidence I could find in a short time about there being a line of Tyrant kings, presumably ending with Ektalm, since Sandenay would have been a queen and ended the tyranny anyway. The Tyrant (singular as opposed to the plural shown here)has always been referred to as a man, so it can't be her, and the Tyrant seems to have been particularly special to be singled out among his other kin. I'm betting it's this Ektalm dude, but I could be wrong.
Kallor was seeking the throne of the House of Chains, not the throne of the Tyrant.
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Ahead awaited a throne, a new throne, one that he deserved. He believed it was taking shape, becoming something truly corporeal. Raw power, brimming with unfulfilled promise.
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I am the High King of Failures, am I not? Who else deserves the Broken Throne? Who else personifies the misery of the Crippled God? No, it will be mine, and as for all the rest, well, we’ll see, won’t we?
This post has been edited by MTS: 19 October 2010 - 08:03 AM
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#143
Posted 20 October 2010 - 05:38 AM
Brilliant, thanks... so, another possibility down. I guess we just have to assume the "Tyrant of Darujistan" storyline is unrelated to most other threads, and the Tyrant was little more than a line of scary kings (and possibly queens).
#144
Posted 20 October 2010 - 09:41 AM
excession, on 20 October 2010 - 05:38 AM, said:
Brilliant, thanks... so, another possibility down. I guess we just have to assume the "Tyrant of Darujistan" storyline is unrelated to most other threads, and the Tyrant was little more than a line of scary kings (and possibly queens).
I have always been under the impression that this Tyrant was the first true ruler of Darujhistan (and possibly Genabackis as well), and rose to such heights that the Cabal and possibly others had to bring him down, whether it be via his possible bloody rule, or them just wanting more power for themselves, who knows there? Specifics are obviously not forthcoming! The line of Tyrant Kings is something that is think was just continued for a time by the people needing something that wasn't to drastic of a change than what they were used to, kinda like when an alchoholic goes sober and despite the people in his life so desperately wanting that to happen, they end up freaking out and desire the comfortable old way to return. Then again, i could be compeltely wrong here, but my theory is also that this Tyrant might not be as "bad" as he's getting built up to be. So my credibilty isn't the greatest, eh?

#145
Posted 20 October 2010 - 09:41 AM
The Seguleh 46th, on 20 October 2010 - 09:41 AM, said:
excession, on 20 October 2010 - 05:38 AM, said:
Brilliant, thanks... so, another possibility down. I guess we just have to assume the "Tyrant of Darujistan" storyline is unrelated to most other threads, and the Tyrant was little more than a line of scary kings (and possibly queens).
I have always been under the impression that this Tyrant was the first true ruler of Darujhistan (and possibly Genabackis as well), and rose to such heights that the Cabal and possibly others had to bring him down, whether it be via his possible bloody rule, or them just wanting more power for themselves, who knows there? Specifics are obviously not forthcoming! The line of Tyrant Kings is something that I think was just continued for a time by the people needing something that wasn't to drastic of a change than what they were used to, kinda like when an alchoholic goes sober, and despite the people in his life so desperately wanting that to happen, they end up freaking out and desire the comfortable old way to return. Then again, i could be compeltely wrong here, but my theory is also that this Tyrant might not be as "bad" as he's getting built up to be. So my credibilty isn't the greatest, eh?

#146
Posted 20 October 2010 - 09:42 AM
The Seguleh 46th, on 20 October 2010 - 09:41 AM, said:
The Seguleh 46th, on 20 October 2010 - 09:41 AM, said:
excession, on 20 October 2010 - 05:38 AM, said:
Brilliant, thanks... so, another possibility down. I guess we just have to assume the "Tyrant of Darujistan" storyline is unrelated to most other threads, and the Tyrant was little more than a line of scary kings (and possibly queens).
I have always been under the impression that this Tyrant was the first true ruler of Darujhistan (and possibly Genabackis as well), and rose to such heights that the Cabal and possibly others had to bring him down, whether it be via his possible bloody rule, or them just wanting more power for themselves, who knows there? Specifics are obviously not forthcoming! The line of Tyrant Kings is something that I think was just continued for a time by the people needing something that wasn't too drastic of a change than what they were used to, kinda like when an alchoholic goes sober, and despite the people in his life so desperately wanting that to happen, they end up freaking out and desire the comfortable old way to return. Then again, i could be completely wrong here, but my theory is also that this Tyrant might not be as "bad" as he's getting built up to be. So my credibilty isn't the greatest, eh?

#147
Posted 20 October 2010 - 09:46 AM
Well, that was weird. Won't let me delete my two extra posts. Only meant to post once and edit. Oh well. My bad.