[bwgan]

@ Silencer - sorry, I don't understand that post, but it wasn't directed at me so I guess it doesn't matter.

[Slick Mongoose]

Silencer, on Jul 2 2009, 08:49 PM, said:

(because if I'm against committing then being wishy-washy on Morgo is indicative of nothing)

I disagree. Being wishy-washy about someone who later turns out to be guilty is a mark against you.

Quote

I'm not willing to pile onto Shin (it's just not my style, Slick...I don't just put votes down anywhere, as it's too much following and not enough my own work).

When did I ask you to pile on to someone?

[Path-Shaper]

It's Day 3. 18 Hours 33 minutes remaining.

5 players are still alive: bwgan, Impirion, Shinrei, Silencer, Slick Mongoose

It takes 3 votes to lynch, 3 votes to go to night.

1 Vote Shinrei: ( bwgan )

Players not yet voted: Impirion, Shinrei, Silencer, Slick Mongoose

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 02 July 2009 - 09:06 PM

[Slick Mongoose]

I'm going to bed - Hopefully we'll hear from Imp and Shin soon.

[Shinrei]

Slick Mongoose, on Jul 2 2009, 03:51 PM, said:

I took a look at Shin:

Shinrei, on Jul 1 2009, 11:35 PM, said:

So, let's see -

It appears that Morgoth claims to be a prophet,
drinksinbars is a knight of the house,
bwgan slanders our cause by calling it an abysmal army,
and vengeance is a traitor of a mafia house.
drone, slick and morgy45 are all ranked.

the traitor or the false prophet seem most suspicious to me!

@bwgan "non-denominational jihadists" sounds like we just do it in our free time.

Saying "It appears that Morgoth claims to be a prophet" could be a symp clue of some kind. Promotable symp, maybe?

Shinrei, on Jul 2 2009, 08:25 AM, said:

As for analysis, I defer to those who have played with him for a long time

but is Dibs coming on and voting morgy - then disappearing for 6 hours - then reappearing to remove vote and go to bed - with no other posts, typical Inno dibs play, or typical American Imperialist Pig dibs play?

Shin kind of defends Morgy here.

Shinrei, on Jul 2 2009, 11:22 AM, said:

If I had to vote gut, I'd be voting dibs.

But I think that's just because it's dibs.

That and his 'morgy scum test' is ridiculous.

And here.

Shinrei, on Jul 2 2009, 02:02 PM, said:

I feel like I"m watching a lovers spat.

What the hell's the matter with you two? "Laying it on thick" indeed. I'm of a mind to suspect the two of you in collaboration for this one.

vote drinksinbars

And here.

I know that Morgoth went after Shin (although he didn't really - his case ended with a vote for bwgan). But that was all 1-way. Shin defended Morgoth several times.

Slick, your case looks good.

The problem with all of the above quotes was, it wasn't defending Morgoth so much as pointing the accusation against Dibs. Between those 2 love doves, I had dibs pegged as the scummy one. I was wrong.

I made a mistake about which was the baddie, but lynching me for it will not help unfortunately.

[bwgan]

I'm going to bed as well, but the good news (for me at least) is that I have no work tomorrow...


Edit: How many times have I pressed F5 this evening and then I fail....

This post has been edited by bwgan: 02 July 2009 - 10:12 PM

[Impirion]

Sorry for being so useless so far, illness = not being able to think clearly or concentrate on computer. Feeling better today, so should be able to contribute more. Just popping to breakfast and then will do a re-read.

[Silencer]

Dead thread....died?

@Slick - I was saying that more if I'm generally non-committal, then specific examples of non-commitment are irrelevant. Because, let's face it, if you're saying that I'm scummy because I didn't vote for Morgoth, then technically you are also at fault.

So...anybody around ?

[Path-Shaper]

It's Day 3. 11 Hours 43 minutes remaining.

5 players are still alive: bwgan, Impirion, Shinrei, Silencer, Slick Mongoose

It takes 3 votes to lynch, 3 votes to go to night.

1 Vote Shinrei: ( bwgan )

Players not yet voted: Impirion, Shinrei, Silencer, Slick Mongoose

[bwgan]

Oh....I got up all excited eager to see what had happened, and...nothing. Hasn't anyone got an opinion on my post on Shin...or anything at all?

[Silencer]

bwgan, on Jul 3 2009, 05:45 AM, said:

Well no one said anything about Venge really, except me saying twice he was obsessed.

Shin though could really be a symp there's this (as has already been highlighted)

Shinrei, on Jul 1 2009, 11:35 PM, said:

So, let's see -

It appears that Morgoth claims to be a prophet,
drinksinbars is a knight of the house,
bwgan slanders our cause by calling it an abysmal army,
and vengeance is a traitor of a mafia house.
drone, slick and morgy45 are all ranked.

the traitor or the false prophet seem most suspicious to me!

@bwgan "non-denominational jihadists" sounds like we just do it in our free time.

Could be a signal saying pick this one (although why Shin should think Venge was a good victim I have no idea)

Then

Shinrei, on Jul 2 2009, 01:01 PM, said:

Slick Mongoose, on Jul 2 2009, 11:45 AM, said:

Shin, who do you think is evil?

Imp, did you finish reading through the thread?

To be honest, I don't know.

Bwgan keeps using the ninja emoticon, which makes me speculate she's a morgoth45 type.
Of course, dib's 'if I wanted you dead I could find a way' statement towards morgy sounds like a hint in that direction too.
Silencer, vengeance and Slick - not reading so much into either of you.
Morgoth - I'm a little surprised he's taking his case on me so seriously
imperion - sick and just signed on...

Hurt symp? And why say 'not reading so much into either of you' when he has referred to three...incl Venge...could just be a typo, but hmmm.

Morgoth, on Jul 2 2009, 01:06 PM, said:

Shinrei, on Jul 2 2009, 01:39 PM, said:

Morgoth, on Jul 2 2009, 10:47 AM, said:

I also wish to point out that unless I'm blind, Shin has not at all responded to my shin is signaling bwgan post

What am I supposed to respond to exactly?

Your case is lame - and as such your "OMG Shin hasn't responded" seems to be an attempt to strongarm an inherently weak case.

heh, I reacted to you not responding. If you want to call that strongarming, be my guest. I prefer to call it "working towards a solution by talking together"

Could be - 'calm down my pet...I get the message' type thing?

TBH can't see much else to go on. With 10 players wouldn't it be overpowered to have 2 killers from the start? I suppose they could be paired, but I wouldn't have thought there would be a symp as well...would there?...Iit could be 1 killer and promotable sym? Or am I being naive? I can't remember the proper ratio...so perhaps I am being naive...oh and well done DiBs.

PS: I was wrong about one thing, it was Venge that Morgie was offering manly love to not DiBs. Again, probably doesn't mean anything.


Oh

Vote Shinrei

Well, you wanted a response, here it is:

1) The 'either' thing is a fairly easy mistake to make, most people use 'either' or 'neither' even when there are multiple objects being referred to (it's horrible grammatically, but there you go).
2) Your last quote from Morgoth to Shin...are you suggesting the killer knows the symp? That seems unlikely to me (despite possible signalling).
3) It's all a bit...'grasping at straws'. Convenient links to Venge and some iffy symp signalling.

On the other hand, it IS the only thing going. (Hehe...heheh...."killer making the effort?" XD).

I'll go back and have a look around, though. Slow game is slow.

[Silencer]

Shinrei, on Jul 3 2009, 01:02 AM, said:

I feel like I"m watching a lovers spat.

What the hell's the matter with you two? "Laying it on thick" indeed. I'm of a mind to suspect the two of you in collaboration for this one.

vote drinksinbars

This is more interesting.

MUCH more interesting.

Can you see where I'm going with this?

Votes DiBs. Misconstrues "laying it on thick" - was actually directed at Slick, so why would Shin have an issue with this?
(Of course, this WAS a lover's spat, or rather the continuation of a long-time feud...but it was a feud of love, so...)

[Path-Shaper]

Roger that Sir, confirm subject is down, do you need extraction?

Negative, time for a little revenge. Artillery strike on the following coodinates, grid Bravo five, four niner by tango one.

Sir! That is a danger close fire mission, I repeat danger close.

Son, it ain't danger close, it's right on top of me...now send it! Command authorization Serenity Six Omega.

Artillery rains down on the city block, you are stunned speachless (obviously). One of you dives for a grate nearby a burnt out building that used to be a cigarette factory. The grate pulls open, and the man dives in. Seeing him and it as your only chance of survival as artillery shells shatter the world as you know it, the rest of you scramble in through the hole as well.

You find yourselves in a small storage room that reeks of old tobacco. Five you, cowering for whatever cover you can get. The room seems to turn on end as an explosion rocks you to the ground, the building collapses over the entrance you just came through and the single light bulb smashes to the ground casting the room into darkness.

"Who...who is here my brothers?

Me, me...me my brother...."

"Yippie Kai Yae motherfuckers I'm here too" say a distinct American voice. "and I've got night vision...time to die for your beliefs, and there won't be rivers of honey, only rivers of blood. Find me if you can....before my knife finds your throat."

Impirion is dead for complete lack of contribution. He was of the town.

It is still day, it has been extended for 11 hours and 21 minutes, it will end at noon tomorrow PST. It's d-day by the way. Enjoy.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 03 July 2009 - 07:44 AM

[Silencer]

Impirion, on Jul 3 2009, 01:38 AM, said:

gods, we are almost onto day 3 if we are to believe dibs... and we have had virtually no proper information from what i can see. Having read through the thread, I haven't really got a proper suspect partially due to illness and failing to think straight very at the mo and partially because the ninja kills have rather stopped much useful information from coming through. will do another read through in a bit when i feel better and see if there's anyone i can make a case on.

Hrm. I will be very angry with you, Impirion, if you are the killer this game and not really playing.

[Silencer]

O.o

Holy fuck. EPIC CROSS POST OF EPICNESS. XD

[bwgan]

Well the game might be slow and it might be a pretty pathetic case...but I am trying at least. And killer making the effort? C'mon that really is weak . And I admitted the flaws in my case but with so few posts what else can you see...


Edit: Cross post

This post has been edited by bwgan: 03 July 2009 - 07:48 AM

[Silencer]

Morgoth, on Jul 2 2009, 10:47 PM, said:

I also wish to point out that unless I'm blind, Shin has not at all responded to my shin is signaling bwgan post

Hrm. Telling his symp that they're being far too blatant?
And then redirecting onto bwgan?

[Silencer]

bwgan, on Jul 3 2009, 07:47 PM, said:

Well the game might be slow and it might be a pretty pathetic case...but I am trying at least. And killer making the effort? C'mon that really is weak . And I admitted the flaws in my case but with so few posts what else can you see...


Edit: Cross post

lol, well, I was right about Morgoth, wasn't I?

(Don't get your knickers in a twist over this, Slick - I'm just kidding around)

[Silencer]

Shinrei, on Jul 3 2009, 12:13 AM, said:

Ok morgy, I'll answer your points in that case.

1)
I was going to bed and I don't like leaving joke votes hanging for 8 hours or more. It was obviously a silly vote, not really meant to push dibs.

2)
Bwgan was moaning about how I killed her in the last game. So I said I'm sorry. My PM to Bent (which is in the spoiler thread) says I thought she was a possible power role because of her play.

Hrm, well. It's plenty easy to use meta as a form of signalling in an altless game. BUT this would mean bwgan is the killer, and tbh that doesn't make sense, unless the "lone American" was actually two lone Americans, rather than a promotable symp.

[bwgan]

You are confusing me is what you are doing! When you say Slick are you referring to Slick or is it a euphemism?