[Hood's Path]

First day lynch is generally random, therefore generally first kill is random. It is only with the second day do the killer starts to figure out who may be a threat and not necessarily anyone who points the finger at him, but people who pull the innos closer together as a functioning team.

So maybe the next action after healing the infected is that any clear leader emerges is that the healer heals him in the off chance that his heal negates kills and just pray that the guy we follow isn't the killer.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 26 hours and 2 minutes remaining

21 Players still alive: Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galain, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Kaschan, Korlat, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Serc, Silanah, Tellan, Thyrllan

11 votes to lynch, 11 votes to go to night

1 vote for Barghast: ( Thyrllan )
1 vote for Karatallid: ( Mockra )
2 votes for Thyrllan: ( Karatallid, Hood's Path )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galain, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Kaschan, Korlat, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, Rashan, Serc, Silanah, Tellan

[D'riss]

Sorry about that, f*cking intenets is acting up.

Caught back up, and one question, why oh why are we discussing inno role distribution? That never leads to anywhere that is good and shiny.

Vote Lioan

for bringing it up in the first place.

[Liosan]

Who is this Lioan character?

And to HP, if the healing/curing of infected actually works, then the healer and Duncan should just keep doing that every night to effectively kick the DG in the balls and keep him on the mat for the entire game.

[D'riss]

Liosan, on Jun 22 2009, 05:24 PM, said:

Who is this Lioan character?

And to HP, if the healing/curing of infected actually works, then the healer and Duncan should just keep doing that every night to effectively kick the DG in the balls and keep him on the mat for the entire game.

Pardon

Remove vote Vote Liosan

There we go, and you continue to discuss what the healer should or shouldn't do, you know, the only thing you are accomplishing is working under Best case scenario. We may not even have a healer, so what good does this conversation do?

[Liosan]

@D'riss: I'm talking about it because there's a chance that the combined effort of a healer and an infection curer could severely hinder the power of the cult.

And for the record, I'm not the one that brought it up:

Thyrllan, on Jun 22 2009, 07:49 AM, said:

The order of NAs was there before (though maybe not right away, but definitely a couple days before we started). Interestingly, Heal *is* before Synapse Overload, which doesn't say it is unaffected by Heals, so if there's a healer and an infected revealed the healer could heal the infected to prevent synapse overload and then we'd get the disinfect in!
*snip*

[Hood's Path]

Ok so we worked out the best case scenario, what the worst case scenario Driss?

[D'riss]

Worst case scenario would be no healer and the cult having free reign to recruit, while we sit around hoping they get healed, then the cultist gets 5 or 6 recruits and synapse overloads them all, bringing us to d-day very quickly. So I think we need to find the bastard and kill him, then find his replacement and kill him, and hopefully keep the levels of infected to a minimum.

[Liosan]

In fact, D'riss, most of the people on-thread have talked about it in one form or another, so I'm curious why you singled me out since I'm not even the one who started the discussion. I was the first person who suggested that infected players out themselves, so maybe you consider me the biggest threat to the Doppelganger cause?

[Liosan]

D'riss, on Jun 22 2009, 11:41 AM, said:

Worst case scenario would be no healer and the cult having free reign to recruit, while we sit around hoping they get healed, then the cultist gets 5 or 6 recruits and synapse overloads them all, bringing us to d-day very quickly. So I think we need to find the bastard and kill him, then find his replacement and kill him, and hopefully keep the levels of infected to a minimum.

Worst case is the first infected to out himself doesn't get healed for one reason or another and dies. Pretty sure that's going to discourage any others from outing themselves, so I don't agree with your D-Day scenario.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 25 hours and 24 minutes remaining

21 Players still alive: Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galain, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Kaschan, Korlat, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Serc, Silanah, Tellan, Thyrllan

11 votes to lynch, 11 votes to go to night

1 vote for Barghast: ( Thyrllan )
1 vote for Karatallid: ( Mockra )
1 vote for Liosan: ( D'riss )
2 votes for Thyrllan: ( Karatallid, Hood's Path )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Barghast, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galain, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Kaschan, Korlat, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, Rashan, Serc, Silanah, Tellan

[Serc]

Hi I'm here. So we take a week off and people get down to serious business right away. New avatar?

[D'riss]

Liosan, on Jun 22 2009, 05:48 PM, said:

D'riss, on Jun 22 2009, 11:41 AM, said:

Worst case scenario would be no healer and the cult having free reign to recruit, while we sit around hoping they get healed, then the cultist gets 5 or 6 recruits and synapse overloads them all, bringing us to d-day very quickly. So I think we need to find the bastard and kill him, then find his replacement and kill him, and hopefully keep the levels of infected to a minimum.

Worst case is the first infected to out himself doesn't get healed for one reason or another and dies. Pretty sure that's going to discourage any others from outing themselves, so I don't agree with your D-Day scenario.

Come on now Lio, if the first infected doesn't speak up, are we to assume that no one was infected? Of course not, and if that one does speak up, and doesn't die, are we to then assume that we have a healer and wait on the second third and forth assuming they were healed as well? Again, this way of thinking doesn't go anywhere, its mostly WIFOM or circular reasoning at best. And this kind of thinking does nothing but help the cultists.

[Galain]

Oh thank God, I'm back and we have DISCUSSION.

So to sum up what I've read, the Doppleganger is a cultist, there's a scum faction that's estimated at around 3-5 people, one person is already infected by the DG and consensus says that person should not reveal and 'hope' to get saved by healer before the DG blows them up?

[D'riss]

Galain, on Jun 22 2009, 06:06 PM, said:

Oh thank God, I'm back and we have DISCUSSION.

So to sum up what I've read, the Doppleganger is a cultist, there's a scum faction that's estimated at around 3-5 people, one person is already infected by the DG and consensus says that person should not reveal and 'hope' to get saved by healer before the DG blows them up?

No, I think consensus is that they should reveal in hopes there is a healer, to save them and any newly infected.

[Meanas]

Thyrllan, on Jun 22 2009, 10:09 AM, said:

or like maaan we could like. get the killer guys and then jus keep votin night until we all get infectioud and we all win with the doopelgangbanger man.

mmmmmm, this mushroom peoples are greaaaat on the fire bro

Hey I like your outside of the box thinking. But I think it would be unwise on account of us all getting modkilled for ruining the game.

[Liosan]

D'riss, on Jun 22 2009, 11:56 AM, said:

Liosan, on Jun 22 2009, 05:48 PM, said:

D'riss, on Jun 22 2009, 11:41 AM, said:

Worst case scenario would be no healer and the cult having free reign to recruit, while we sit around hoping they get healed, then the cultist gets 5 or 6 recruits and synapse overloads them all, bringing us to d-day very quickly. So I think we need to find the bastard and kill him, then find his replacement and kill him, and hopefully keep the levels of infected to a minimum.

Worst case is the first infected to out himself doesn't get healed for one reason or another and dies. Pretty sure that's going to discourage any others from outing themselves, so I don't agree with your D-Day scenario.

Come on now Lio, if the first infected doesn't speak up, are we to assume that no one was infected? Of course not, and if that one does speak up, and doesn't die, are we to then assume that we have a healer and wait on the second third and forth assuming they were healed as well? Again, this way of thinking doesn't go anywhere, its mostly WIFOM or circular reasoning at best. And this kind of thinking does nothing but help the cultists.

First question: no, and no one was suggesting that. According to what was said in the OPs, we know that there is one person infected right now.

Second question: no one would have any reason to claim infection unless they are actually infected, as lying about it would only hurt the town and it would be too big of a risk for anti-town factions to claim it. So if someone outs themselves as infected, I'm pretty sure Duncan would try and cure them the following night, as, given it's day 1, he probably doesn't have any better leads. If they don't die, then, *bam,* infection cured, problem solved. We can then continue the practice until an outed infected does die in the night.

Still seems pretty clear-cut to me. You're the only one trying to create WIFOM around here.

[Serc]

Meanas, on Jun 22 2009, 09:12 AM, said:

Thyrllan, on Jun 22 2009, 10:09 AM, said:

or like maaan we could like. get the killer guys and then jus keep votin night until we all get infectioud and we all win with the doopelgangbanger man.

mmmmmm, this mushroom peoples are greaaaat on the fire bro

Hey I like your outside of the box thinking. But I think it would be unwise on account of us all getting modkilled for ruining the game.

Makes me think Thyrllan is the first infected. It's probably not against the rules since, the DG in all likely-hood would just synapse everyone the night before his win. I'm most suspicious of the people that are pointing away from the cult like Eloth and the people that are putting into our heads the thoughts that infected are going to die alot. The strongest power is clearly complusion, DG controlling a voting block is going to get dangerous quick as the numbers dwindle.

[Meanas]

Serc, on Jun 22 2009, 12:19 PM, said:

Meanas, on Jun 22 2009, 09:12 AM, said:

Thyrllan, on Jun 22 2009, 10:09 AM, said:

or like maaan we could like. get the killer guys and then jus keep votin night until we all get infectioud and we all win with the doopelgangbanger man.

mmmmmm, this mushroom peoples are greaaaat on the fire bro

Hey I like your outside of the box thinking. But I think it would be unwise on account of us all getting modkilled for ruining the game.

Makes me think Thyrllan is the first infected. It's probably not against the rules since, the DG in all likely-hood would just synapse everyone the night before his win. I'm most suspicious of the people that are pointing away from the cult like Eloth and the people that are putting into our heads the thoughts that infected are going to die alot. The strongest power is clearly complusion, DG controlling a voting block is going to get dangerous quick as the numbers dwindle.

Oh, you think someone is infected already? It's possible I suppose.

[Silanah]

Meanas, on Jun 22 2009, 06:22 PM, said:

Serc, on Jun 22 2009, 12:19 PM, said:

Meanas, on Jun 22 2009, 09:12 AM, said:

Thyrllan, on Jun 22 2009, 10:09 AM, said:

or like maaan we could like. get the killer guys and then jus keep votin night until we all get infectioud and we all win with the doopelgangbanger man.

mmmmmm, this mushroom peoples are greaaaat on the fire bro

Hey I like your outside of the box thinking. But I think it would be unwise on account of us all getting modkilled for ruining the game.

Makes me think Thyrllan is the first infected. It's probably not against the rules since, the DG in all likely-hood would just synapse everyone the night before his win. I'm most suspicious of the people that are pointing away from the cult like Eloth and the people that are putting into our heads the thoughts that infected are going to die alot. The strongest power is clearly complusion, DG controlling a voting block is going to get dangerous quick as the numbers dwindle.

Oh, you think someone is infected already? It's possible I suppose.

Err.... it says someone randoms starts off infected....
Which means you have probably not read the opening posts properly