[D'riss]

Korvalain, on Jun 14 2009, 04:04 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on Jun 12 2009, 11:38 PM, said:

D'riss, on Jun 12 2009, 06:07 PM, said:

I also enjoyed Pan's Labyrinth.

It seems the main choice at this point is Ruse, with lesser trains on HP and Lio. I could really go for either of those three. I agree with Emur in that it seems the threat from the cult has been severely lessened, or at least it's reached the point in the game where playing for your faction to win is as/more important than playing for the cult to lose. From what I've seen HP is unlikely to have been cult for the majority of the game, Lio or Ruse might be but I'm not sold on either.

I may have started this point, but it's just this sort of post that I was looking for. Didn't actually expect it to come from one of the three non-voters (I mean, really, do we think that at least some the cultists didn't hop on at some point in the train to avoid suspicion?).

Thank you, D'riss. As this sounds exactly like what one would expect a cultist to say once someone has brought up the fact that the cult is weak and may not need to be focused on any more.

You have just gone up several places in my suspect list. For me, it's between Ruse and D'riss, now.

Vote D'riss

And ideally Telas would request a modkill, but if his survival wins the game for the cult then it's a very hollow victory, I'm afraid. That sort of shit just ain't on.

I'm back for a bit now, and have just done some re-reading.

Of the people who I found suspect over the past day, D'riss is now my top suspect. Not only was D'riss one of those who didn't vote for Fener and Gamelon, but he was also quick to say "let's move on" after we had lynched them, as Emur points out here. He then comes on, slaps a post down on Ruse (another non-voter) and disappears.

His avoidance of voting for cult, combined with his apparent attempts at directing attention elsewhere once these lynches happened has earned my vote. WCS, the/a recruiter is still around, and D'riss fits the profile.

Vote D'riss

I wasnt trying to distract from the cult - I was stating a fact: People have started playing more for there own factions rather than against the cult. Just look at the votecounts. Two cases were made against people with evidence they were in the cult, both garnered few votes. Instead of jumping all over anyone who might be cult, people are trying to negotiate their own faction a strong position in the endgame.

For the record, I voted Fener on day three and switched to Kesso at the last minute because it was the only way we were going to get a lynch. After the huge amount of support Fener got, it started to seem less likely that Fener was cult, so I didnt throw a vote against him straight away the next day and the lynch happened while I was gone. I stated several times I would vote for Gam, but that we should use the day to it's full. Once again the actual lynch happened when I was away.

[Rashan]

Well, again it looks like a very busy day, although hopefully not as busy as yesterday, I should be on more, hopefully. But for now I'm gonna hold off on my vote, theres plenty of time, and weekends suck so no need to rush, IMO.

[Liosan]

D'riss got 3 votes now, huh?

considering the lack of participation, I'm afraid that' s likely to be our lynch today.

I'm not gonna vote, yet, because I'd like to hear D'riss thoughts on who we should lynch.

Also, I'm curious which way Tennes will go, without their master here to hold their hand.

Deadline's gonna be around my midnight, so rest assured i'll be here till the day end.

[D'riss]

Liosan, on Jun 14 2009, 06:19 PM, said:

D'riss got 3 votes now, huh?

considering the lack of participation, I'm afraid that' s likely to be our lynch today.

I'm not gonna vote, yet, because I'd like to hear D'riss thoughts on who we should lynch.

Also, I'm curious which way Tennes will go, without their master here to hold their hand.

Deadline's gonna be around my midnight, so rest assured i'll be here till the day end.

At this point I think most people have a reasonable idea who's in their faction, and that the factions are pretty balanced numbers wise, so getting a lynch will be pretty difficult. Situations like this would normally be won or lost by what happens at night, but there hasnt been much happening in that regard either.

[Liosan]

unless all of our exposed symps were silently recruited, sigh.

[D'riss]

Liosan, on Jun 14 2009, 06:31 PM, said:

unless all of our exposed symps were silently recruited, sigh.

Not that I want to get blasted for "distracting from the cult" but you would think if that were the case there would be way more coordination present in the game. WCS says that with the recruiter around the cult would have 4 or 5 people by now, enough to maybe have forced a lynch yesterday, but that doesnt seem to be the case.

[Liosan]

heh
the thing is, we have no idea what the cult victory conditons are.
if it's simple majority, tehn WCS, this is D-day, a la ment's vampire game.
if it's generic "be the last faction standing", cult's unlikely to openly announce themselves because that puts them in danger of night actions.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 7. 11 hours and 10 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Hood's Path, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Rashan, Ruse, Telas, Tennes

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night

1 vote for Meanas: ( Telas )
1 vote for Telas: ( Liosan )
3 votes for D'riss: ( Korvalain, Emurlahn, Ruse )

Players not voted: D'riss, Hood's Path, Meanas, Rashan, Tennes

[D'riss]

Liosan, on Jun 14 2009, 07:05 PM, said:

heh
the thing is, we have no idea what the cult victory conditons are.
if it's simple majority, tehn WCS, this is D-day, a la ment's vampire game.
if it's generic "be the last faction standing", cult's unlikely to openly announce themselves because that puts them in danger of night actions.

True enough, but then NA's haventreally featured that heavily in this game. You would have thought that by this point people with the ability to kill would have done so, since they can be reasonably sure at this point they wont hit their own team.

[Liosan]

I've pointed out earlier, we have a dead Carnival, who simply HAD to have a killing role, as wel as two Cohl's Shades, who were likely vigs.

3 teams-3 killing roles?
I doubt it's as simple as that, but weirder things have happened...

[Liosan]

so, what are the chances of Meanas and Tennes showing up, I wonder?

[Rashan]

I am having a fun day, so no show for me, I would appologize, but it seems only lio doesn't have a life (just kidding)

Vote D'riss

I doubt I'll be back to do that, see you all tomorrow.

[Liosan]

meh, it's a Sunday, and i'm stillrecovering from an injury. Otherwise, I'd be working right now.

[Telas]

Liosan, on Jun 14 2009, 01:16 AM, said:

erm, what?
where you getting the "double up" thing from?

may I add, you are simply adding to the vote spread right now.

not to mention that i'm not averse to voting Meanas, provided there's some evidence put on the table first.

I believe my posts have been pretty clear, both in terms of what I meant by "doubling up" (i.e. instead of voting for Meanas, voting for someone who already had a vote, so that they get two votes), and earlier in my case on Meanas yesterday. I think the votes trains are pretty solid evidence.

So, like, you voted for Meanas earlier today...was that under no evidence? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was just a ploy to discount any case on him from the day before. You were like, "Vote Meanas; *wait some small amount of time*; oh, no, wait, silly mods, Meanas is free and clear guys, nothing to see here; remove vote."

I can only assume that is what the quote above is, as well - trying to discount me again by not understanding what was pretty clear. It's pretty obvious to me now that Meanas is your leader, and the previous vote trains indicate he could even be the cult leader.

edit: grammar

This post has been edited by Telas: 14 June 2009 - 08:27 PM

[Liosan]

erm, right.

only problem, there WAS no one else voting Meanas.
once you came on, if you wanted to double up, you should've vote ruse, or HP--I believe those were the two choices, other than yourself.

as for your belief that Meanas is my leader... well, sufice it to say, if the mods deemed fit to give me a vig, Meanas would be dead night 3. I have a weird feeling about him, but it ain't enough for a lynch.

[Meanas]

Afternoon guys. Don't have a whole lot of time right now, but I see a train picking up on D'riss. I'll have a quick look through the evidence and see what's there.

[Telas]

Liosan, on Jun 14 2009, 04:36 PM, said:

erm, right.

only problem, there WAS no one else voting Meanas.
once you came on, if you wanted to double up, you should've vote ruse, or HP--I believe those were the two choices, other than yourself.

as for your belief that Meanas is my leader... well, sufice it to say, if the mods deemed fit to give me a vig, Meanas would be dead night 3. I have a weird feeling about him, but it ain't enough for a lynch.

All I can say is to read my post again with your brain engaged and I think you will be able to follow my thought process. In the mean time, please stop trying to discredit me.

[Meanas]

OK, I had a look, and it seems like the sum total of the case against him was that he voiced his opinion that the time had come to start playing for your own faction and not against the cult. Thing is, with the recruiting that has been going on and may still be, we really can't be sure of the allegiances of any of our teammates any more. How are you going to play for a faction win if your faction mates aren't on your side?

Until we get a lynch, we're just going to be stagnating. Given how things have been going, it's unlikely there's going to be any NKs anytime soon to hurry us up, after all. D'riss' seems to be neglecting to consider the possibility that teammates have been turned to the dark side, and on a slow day with a few votes on him, that's enough.

Vote D'riss

[Liosan]

huh, 5 votes on D'riss

shall I hammer, then?

@ Telas: if someone listens to you, thinks Meanas a leader and disposes of him overnight, I will be quite happy, whether you believe it or not.

likewise, believe it or not, earlier today, I DID vote Meanas based on a mistaken perception.

and i'm not trying to discredit you. if anything, I'd like you to give me a stronger argument.

[Liosan]

hmm, If I hammer now, night will time out whilst I sleep.
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